Santana to Mets

[Thunder Dan]

you heard it here first

http://blogs.nypost.com/sports/mets/archives/2008/01/mets_make_deal.html

[Melmart1]

I'm glad he went to the National League and not to some AL team, particularly the Yankees or Red Sox or some other team with a large payroll.

[King]

I'm glad he went to the National League and not to some AL team, particularly the Yankees or Red Sox or some other team with a large payroll.

Yeah - like the Mets.

[Thunder Dan]

I'm actually upset he is out of the Indians' division, they pretty much own him, I think they were 5-1 vs him last year..oh well

[Marklar MM]

I'm just glad the Tigers don't face him 4-5 times a year

[Melmart1]

Yeah - like the Mets.
I said AL team with a big payroll.

[misterx91578]

if this happens twins got bent over

[DOMINATOR]

if this happens twins got bent over
depends... if santana doesn't resign with the mets they get F'ed.

[misterx91578]

the mets have 72 hours to try to work out an extension if they cant there will be no deal

[Budkin]

Hell yeah!!! GO METS! :clap

[Vinnie_Johnson]

Did MLB call the Police on this flat out theft? WTF no one couldn't of come up with a better package.

[ClingingMars]

The Messiah has come to Queens to deliver Mets fans everywhere a championship.

I can't fucking wait 'till baseball season.

-Mars

[misterx91578]

Did MLB call the Police on this flat out theft? WTF no one couldn't of come up with a better package.

there were better packages but the twins wanted to wait and this was the best package available

[Vinnie_Johnson]

there were better packages but the twins wanted to wait and this was the best package available

Well might be right sure as hell glad is is out of The AL For sure. :toast

[bostonguy]

It would have been a bonus but I can understand why. Boston is still set and loaded to defend their championship. We still have that Josh Beckett guy! :smokin

[DOMINATOR]

i just realized it's going to be even tougher for Roy O to win the Cy. NL pitching >>> AL pitching.
santana and Haren moving to NL this year.

[Horry For 3!]

i just realized it's going to be even tougher for Roy O to win the Cy. NL pitching >>> AL pitching.
santana and Haren moving to NL this year.
3 words, Jacob Edward Peavy. It'll be nice seein Peavy and Santana goin after each other.

[misterx91578]

3 words, Jacob Edward Peavy. It'll be nice seein Peavy and Santana goin after each other.


2006 nl cy winner Brandon Webb is still in the nl also

[Horry For 3!]

2006 nl cy winner Brandon Webb is still in the nl also
Peavy is still better and will be in his prime this season at the age of 27 on May 31st.

[misterx91578]

Peavy is still better and will be in his prime this season at the age of 27 on May 31st.


well Santana is the best pitcher in all mlb

[DOMINATOR]

well Santana is the best pitcher in all mlb
he wasn't last season. particularly after the AS break... 4.04 ERA

[misterx91578]

he wasn't last season. particularly after the AS break... 4.04 ERA

oh i didn't know best pitcher in baseball is based only on last season

[sribb43]

The rangers batting average just went up 20 points and -50 k's next season not having to face Johan

[JMarkJohns]

Peavy is still better and will be in his prime this season at the age of 27 on May 31st.

It's not like Webb is over the hill. He's late-20's as well. You can have an opinion that Peavy is better, and he is most undoubtedly the better power pitcher of the two, but Peavy also pitches in a pitcher's heaven, while Webb pitches in a top-5 NL hitters park. Peavy has some health issues every so often, while Webb is generally healthy.

Peavy may be a better pitcher right this minute, but it's not by a long shot and I think Webb has probably been a bit more consistent over the last three seasons.

To each his own, and remember, my second favorite team in the NL is the Padres. I just think it's a bit more of a toss up, and at most, maybe 60-40 in Peavy's favor.

Webb vs. Santana should be just as exciting as Peavy vs. Santana.

[Vinnie_Johnson]

Scarry part is Santana will be better in The NL and will be just scary only facing 8 guys with no DL. Plus NL hitters really have not faced him. Last Shea is a pitchers park big time.

[Horry For 3!]

It's not like Webb is over the hill. He's late-20's as well. You can have an opinion that Peavy is better, and he is most undoubtedly the better power pitcher of the two, but Peavy also pitches in a pitcher's heaven, while Webb pitches in a top-5 NL hitters park. Peavy has some health issues every so often, while Webb is generally healthy.

Peavy may be a better pitcher right this minute, but it's not by a long shot and I think Webb has probably been a bit more consistent over the last three seasons.

To each his own, and remember, my second favorite team in the NL is the Padres. I just think it's a bit more of a toss up, and at most, maybe 60-40 in Peavy's favor.

Webb vs. Santana should be just as exciting as Peavy vs. Santana.
I just did the 3 yr avg between the 2.

Peavy 209.7 INN 32 GS 2 CG 14 W 9 L 224 K 3.13 ERA 1.11 WHIP
Webb 233.3 INN 33 GS 3 CG 16 W 10 L 181 K 3.20 ERA 1.19 WHIP

So yeah, not by much but Peavy is better.

[JMarkJohns]

I just did the 3 yr avg between the 2.

Peavy 209.7 INN 32 GS 2 CG 14 W 9 L 224 K 3.13 ERA 1.11 WHIP
Webb 233.3 INN 33 GS 3 CG 16 W 10 L 181 K 3.20 ERA 1.19 WHIP

So yeah, not by much but Peavy is better.

That's pretty much what I figured. Factor in Peavy's Petco help and it's pretty much a toss up. Do you want a few more starts and two dozen or more innings per season or would you rather have a few dozen extra strikeouts per season?

The whip and the ERA are so close that the ballparks pretty much make each a wash...

[ClingingMars]

santana + pedro + maine + el duque + mets offense = championship

-Mars

[Kriz-Maxima]

I hope they can work out the deal, the Mets need him.

[JMarkJohns]

santana + pedro + maine + el duque + mets offense = championship

-Mars

I had the Mets winning it all in 2006. I was shocked they let the Cardinals beat them. The Mets are still in position to represent the NL, but they have several key players that are injury-prone or just plain old. Santana goes a long way to shore up their biggest need, but counting on Pedro as you #2 is rough. It's like the Diamondbacks counting on Johnson to be their #2 last season.

We'll have to see, but I think you're definately much better than last season. Problem is, I think Colorado and Arizona could be as well.

[Horry For 3!]

That's pretty much what I figured. Factor in Peavy's Petco help and it's pretty much a toss up. Do you want a few more starts and two dozen or more innings per season or would you rather have a few dozen extra strikeouts per season?

The whip and the ERA are so close that the ballparks pretty much make each a wash...
Although, if you take out one of Peavy's worst years, which was 05. It isn't very close after that. So that 05 year helped Webb to become closer.

[Vinnie_Johnson]

Santana>Pevey>>Webb

[bostonguy]

santana + pedro + maine + el duque + mets offense = championship

-Mars

The Defending Champion post season proven Boston Red Sox will have something to say about that!

[Horry For 3!]

Deal is pretty much done. Santana is a Met now.

[Horry For 3!]

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=AjCk2WToFDrGcq_W88Po7rYRvLYF?slug=ap-mets-santana&prov=ap&type=lgns

Mets and LHP Johan Santana agree to $150.75 million, 7-year contract

NEW YORK (AP) -- Johan Santana and the New York Mets agreed Friday to a $150.75 million, seven-year contract, a record for a pitcher and the last major step needed to finalize the team's blockbuster trade with Minnesota.

After the sides were granted an extra two hours to work on a deal, the Mets announced about 30 minutes before the new 7 p.m. EST deadline that negotiations had concluded. The pitcher was scheduled to take a physical Saturday.

Terms of the agreement were disclosed by a baseball official with knowledge of the talks who spoke on condition of anonymity because no announcement had been made.

Santana's contract topped the previous mark for pitchers, set when Barry Zito received a $126 million, seven-year deal from the San Francisco Giants last offseason. Santana was due $13.25 million in the final year of his contract with the Twins, and would have been eligible for free agency after the World Series.

The only players with larger packages are New York Yankees third baseman Alex Rodriguez ($275 million), Yankees shortstop Derek Jeter ($189 million) and Boston outfielder Manny Ramirez ($160 million).

Santana's average annual salary of $21.5 million is second only to A-Rod's $27.5 million. Among pitchers with multiyear contracts, it topped the $18.3 million of the Chicago Cubs' Carlos Zambrano.

Mets officials met with Santana's agent, Peter Greenberg, in Manhattan for the third straight day as the sides worked on a contract for the two-time AL Cy Young Award winner.

The Twins agreed Tuesday to swap Santana for four prospects: outfielder Carlos Gomez and right-handers Philip Humber, Kevin Mulvey and Deolis Guerra.

Santana and the Mets were then given until 5 p.m. EST Friday to negotiate a contract. For the deal to become official, the left-hander must formally waive the no-trade provision in his current contract.

With talks ongoing Friday, the Mets asked Minnesota for two extra hours to work on an agreement, a request that was granted by the Twins and approved by the commissioner's office.

Minnesota offered Santana an $80 million, four-year extension this offseason, but he turned it down.

AP Baseball Writer Ronald Blum and AP Sports Writer Dave Campbell in Minneapolis contributed to this report.

[T Park]

They will regret that contract in 3 years.

Mark it down.

[Vinnie_Johnson]

They will regret that contract in 3 years.

Mark it down.

Oh yeah he will be 32 all washed up :lol Good luck with that it's the best pitcher in Baseball freaking Santana not an older Kevin Brown.

[Budkin]

They will regret that contract in 3 years.

Mark it down.

Maybe so, but Omar Minaya gagged last summer and didn't come through when the Mets clearly needed pitching help. Now they have one of the best in baseball. I'm happy as hell about this right now!

[JMarkJohns]

Although, if you take out one of Peavy's worst years, which was 05. It isn't very close after that. So that 05 year helped Webb to become closer.

Peavy's been in the League six years to Webb's five. In that time Peavy has pitched in two pitcher's ballparks, Webb in one hitter's ballpark.

Over his career, Peavy has had an ERA of 4+ three times and 4.5+ once. Webb's highest ERA over his career has been a very good 3.59. Yes, Peavy is great. He'd probably be my choice if I had to choose twixt the pair, but Webb is equally as great and is far and away the more consistent pitcher having a career ERA lower while pitching an average of a dozen more innings per season.

It's no slight to Peavy, but a matchup of Webb vs. Santana will be equally as great as Peavy vs. Santana.

According to the stats, Peavy at his best is a half a run better than Webb, but at his worst is a full run worse.

I mean, being a 3.22 ERA 225 innings per season horse has to count for something? Especially when you've been nearly as good every single one of your five MLB seasons.

[DOMINATOR]

we get it JMJ you want to sex Webb.


give me Roy O. when he starts declining just shock him!

[TheTruth]

I just did the 3 yr avg between the 2.

Peavy 209.7 INN 32 GS 2 CG 14 W 9 L 224 K 3.13 ERA 1.11 WHIP
Webb 233.3 INN 33 GS 3 CG 16 W 10 L 181 K 3.20 ERA 1.19 WHIP

So yeah, not by much but Peavy is better.
Alright, in that case (and with the Hitters Heaven that is Great American Ballpark) may I present Aaron Harang's 3 year averages.

225.3 Innings, 34 GS, 3 CG, 14 W, 10 L, 3.53 ERA, and 201 K

[ClingingMars]

I had the Mets winning it all in 2006. I was shocked they let the Cardinals beat them. The Mets are still in position to represent the NL, but they have several key players that are injury-prone or just plain old. Santana goes a long way to shore up their biggest need, but counting on Pedro as you #2 is rough. It's like the Diamondbacks counting on Johnson to be their #2 last season.

We'll have to see, but I think you're definately much better than last season. Problem is, I think Colorado and Arizona could be as well.

I'm confident enough in Wright and Reyes and Beltran to give enough run support for us to get it done. The Cardinals got lucky in 2006.

-Mars

[ClingingMars]

The Defending Champion post season proven Boston Red Sox will have something to say about that!

Nah, Pedro will have a glorious return to Boston in the World Series, and he will shut down the Sox.

-Mars

[ClingingMars]

They will regret that contract in 3 years.

Mark it down.

:lmao :lmao :lmao

-Mars