Cowboys Trade Rumor!!

[2centsworth]

ESPN is reporting

Dallas' two 1st rounders plus Marion Barber for the Dolphins #1 pick which would be Darren McFadden.


Jerry Jones would prove he's the biggest football idiot in the history of football.
Please hire Jimmy Johnson as GM and go back to Arkansas.

[clambake]

you just beat me to it!!!

someone needs to buy jones one of those nice white jackets....you know, the one with the ties in the back.

[samikeyp]

Fucking stupid.

[MaNu4Tres]

That trade would be the most lopsided trade in cowboy history. That would be horrible if that happened. A pro-bowl running back that just scratch the surface of his prime and not one but two 1st round draft picks for an unproven rookie? are you joking me?

[monosylab1k]

I don't think you guys realize how good McFadden is. Barber is a part-time back. McFadden is a franchise guy. IMO, McFadden is in the same class as LT and Peterson.

At the same time, the Cowboys have bigger needs right now than RB.

I don't think it's an idiotic trade, but probably not the best way to spend two draft picks and a damn good part-time power runner.

[samikeyp]

At the same time, the Cowboys have bigger needs right now than RB.

Exactly. That is the main reason why i think it would be stupid.

[BacktoBasics]

I wouldn't move Barber. For this to work they need both Fad and Barb. I'd move a 1,2,5 and maybe a future 1 to seal the deal.

[leemajors]

they can get a good complement to barber with one of those late first round picks, i don't understand this at all. unless they have something in the works to shore up the secondary already.

[King]

This rumor has been floated out there for a few days, by Mortensen, if I'm not mistaken. I've heard both #1s and Barber (too much, imo), a #1, a #3 and Barber (getting better), and a #1 and Barber (I'd do that one).

The thing that concerns me about Barber, is that he takes an absolute beating. He has taken and given more hits, in a part time role, than most RBs in the league. I don't think he could hold up an entire season - and I can see his career slowing down in 3 or 4 years. I'd be fine with no trade, keeping both picks, and trying to get another RB (Felix Jones, Jonathan Stewart) to pair with him - and maybe a WR (Doucet, Kelly) with the other pick.

But, I wouldn't put Marion Barber anywhere near untradeable.

[BacktoBasics]

I guess its safe to assume Julius Jones won't be back. I'd love to see them draft a young reciever or safety as well. For once I feel good about the OL, DL and LBs.

[peewee's lovechild]

This mother fucking bullshit better not be true.

[monosylab1k]

this draft is really, really deep if the Cowboys wanted to get a change of pace speed back to complement with Barber.

but if they're looking for a game-changing, superstar, "1500+ yards & 20 TD's a year" franchise running back, McFadden is the only one available. And guys like that are few & far between.

My belief is that if you have the chance to get one of these rarities, you take him without question. Look at how the entire Vikings franchise has been turned around by Peterson. But I can certainly understand why many Cowboys fans don't want to make this move, given the many other part-time backs available to match up with Barber.

[johnsmith]

but if they're looking for a game-changing, superstar, "1500+ yards & 20 TD's a year" franchise running back, McFadden is the only one available. And guys like that are few & far between.


That sounds almost identical to what everyone was saying about Reggie Bush a couple of years ago.

[monosylab1k]

That sounds almost identical to what everyone was saying about Reggie Bush a couple of years ago.
True, but everybody gets a "USC bust exemption" on that one.

Darren McFadden is the real deal.

[midgetonadonkey]

but if they're looking for a game-changing, superstar, "1500+ yards & 20 TD's a year" franchise running back, McFadden is the only one available. And guys like that are few & far between.

Same was said about Blair Thomas and Kijana Carter.

[BacktoBasics]

That sounds almost identical to what everyone was saying about Reggie Bush a couple of years ago.Thats my fear as well. If this can be done without losing our already proven back I'm happy.

[stretch]

this draft is really, really deep if the Cowboys wanted to get a change of pace speed back to complement with Barber.

but if they're looking for a game-changing, superstar, "1500+ yards & 20 TD's a year" franchise running back, McFadden is the only one available. And guys like that are few & far between.

My belief is that if you have the chance to get one of these rarities, you take him without question. Look at how the entire Vikings franchise has been turned around by Peterson. But I can certainly understand why many Cowboys fans don't want to make this move, given the many other part-time backs available to match up with Barber.
Difference is, Peterson didn't have a team trade two first rounders and a pro-bowler for him.

[johnsmith]

Thats my fear as well. If this can be done without losing our already proven back I'm happy.


Fear as well????

I'm hoping th Cowboys do this. Then I hope McFadden gets hurt.

[johnsmith]

Difference is, Peterson didn't have a team trade two first rounders and a pro-bowler for him.


Could the Dolphins pull a Cowboys of the early 90's?

Ghost of Herschel Walker????????Even though he's not dead.

[monosylab1k]

The Cowboys already fucked this up once by passing on Steven Jackson.

I'll take Jackson over any Barber/speed back combo there is. He's a game changer in ways that Barber can never be.

Now i'm not saying that 2 first rounders + Barber is worth it. But if the Dolphins are willing to trade that pick, you've gotta do what you can to get a guy like D-Mac.

[leemajors]

Could the Dolphins pull a Cowboys of the early 90's?

Ghost of Herschel Walker????????Even though he's not dead.
he does have multiple personalities though.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

I don't think the Cowboys with McFadden are any closer to winning the SB.

Trade one of the firsts for Roy Williams, draft the best available CB with the other, move Henry to FS and Hamlin to SS(only one RW per team), and use the rest of the picks on depth, preferably OL.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Stupid if they do that.

[dallaskd]

ill fucking shoot myself if they do that. 2 first round picks and Barber??!?!?! if we still had jones i would trade julius and ONE first roun dpick for McFadden. I dont believe Jerry Jones is that stupid.

[dallaskd]

hold on to what we have and draft Felix Jones.

[dallaskd]

I don't think the Cowboys with McFadden are any closer to winning the SB.

Trade one of the firsts for Roy Williams, draft the best available CB with the other, move Henry to FS and Hamlin to SS(only one RW per team), and use the rest of the picks on depth, preferably OL.

The Lions would not trade williams, but i would not be sad if we got rid of our roy williams to get a WR or McFadden and then draft secondary.

[K-State Spur]

When did you guys hire Vinny Cerrato as GM?

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

The Lions would not trade williams

There has been talk for awhile now that the Lions FO thinks he's gone after next year(FA) because they believe he wants to be closer to his family, specifically his daughter.

He'll be shopped and if the right deal comes along, they'll do it in a heartbeat, IMO.

[macdude06]

this rumor doesnt make since...why wold the dolphins do it...they have 4-5 good backs on there roster...ronnie brown is a great back if he can mae it back after injury..and there was other decnet ones on that team...its not the runnings backs..i mean if dallas offered that i would take it in a heart beat and turn around ans sale again...im just rambling on.hahah

i would rather see bobby carpenter and marcus spears and a 1st for the top pick...

[mardigan]

Who wants to pay a rookie running back that kind of money? I would rather them draft a reciever and another corner in the first, and maybe get a running back in the third.

[bostonguy]

There has been talk for awhile now that the Lions FO thinks he's gone after next year(FA) because they believe he wants to be closer to his family, specifically his daughter.

He'll be shopped and if the right deal comes along, they'll do it in a heartbeat, IMO.

Send him to New England. He can be the 3rd option behind Moss and Welker. :smokin

[bostonguy]

Who wants to pay a rookie running back that kind of money? I would rather them draft a reciever and another corner in the first, and maybe get a running back in the third.

A friend of mine who lives in Dallas told me he heard on the radio that the Bengals would be willing to trade Chad Johnson for the saftey Roy Williams. He told me they really think Roy can help them in the secondary. Again this is what I was told

[mardigan]

A friend of mine who lives in Dallas told me he heard on the radio that the Bengals would be willing to trade Chad Johnson for the saftey Roy Williams. He told me they really think Roy can help them in the secondary. Again this is what I was told
I know he and Rosenhaus are trying to get him traded. That would be an unbelievable trade, and Roy his easily replacable.

[bostonguy]

I know he and Rosenhaus are trying to get him traded. That would be an unbelievable trade, and Roy his easily replacable.

If you land Ocho Cinco at the cost of Roy , that will be flat out robbery.

[dallaskd]

A friend of mine who lives in Dallas told me he heard on the radio that the Bengals would be willing to trade Chad Johnson for the saftey Roy Williams. He told me they really think Roy can help them in the secondary. Again this is what I was told

I would do that in a heartbeat. Roy is easily replaceable.

[dallaskd]

TO and Chad Johnson lining up next to each other would be huge but idk if one team can have 2 egos that big.

[samikeyp]

I would do that in a heartbeat. Roy is easily replaceable.

Absolutely.

[kskonn]

TO and Chad Johnson lining up next to each other would be huge but idk if one team can have 2 egos that big.


I would love the opportunity to see if it could work. that would be sick. I think it could work, they are pretty good friends, they are different enough in age for Johnson to see TO as a mentor, as dimented as that sounds. If that trade is ever truly on the table the cowboys need to pull the trigger as soon as humanly possible.

The cowboys would probably set the record for the most celebration penalties in the history of the leauge.

[Jessica Simpson]

It's okay guys, I will threaten Tony with no sex unless he throws 5 TDs a game! It's not like I'm not getting it from Jason Witten too.

[dallaskd]

It's okay guys, I will threaten Tony with no sex unless he throws 5 TDs a game! It's not like I'm not getting it from Jason Witten too.

Fuck off, piece of shit troll. your not funny and you have to piss on every discussion. Go get the troll password. damn.

[Jessica Simpson]

Fuck off, piece of shit troll. your not funny and you have to piss on every discussion. Go get the troll password. damn.

So you don't want Tony to throw 5 TDs a game? What kind of fan are you?

[O-Factor]

A friend of mine who lives in Dallas told me he heard on the radio that the Bengals would be willing to trade Chad Johnson for the saftey Roy Williams. He told me they really think Roy can help them in the secondary. Again this is what I was told

I heard about that rumor. Here is an excerpt from a Cowboys forum I visit


LBOH was on Galloway & Company (ESPN Dallas-area sports radio) this afternoon. She was pretty vague, but mentioned hearing rumors about a possible trade with Cincinnati. Apparently it would be a trade involving swapping Chad Johnson for Roy Williams. She was hazy about the details, but both she and Galloway felt that there must be some additional compensation.

The thought concerning this was to reunite Williams with Zimmer. She felt Zimmer feels he could get the most out of Williams and get him back to being the elite player he was his first few years in the league. Gallloway seemed to think (which I agree with) that Zimmer actually hates Williams and blames him in large part for the defensive collapse which got him run out of Dallas. They also discussed Roy's contract being an obstacle to a trade.

They also had some interesting talk about how Chad Johnson and Palmer pretty much hate each other. They said Chad would have to be moved because things had gone past the point of repair. Further, stated that Johnson wanted to come here badly. Also mentioned Johnson would be a true #1 who could stick around once TO's contract was up.

[inconvertible]

that would be awesome.

[samikeyp]

There has been talk for awhile now that the Lions FO thinks he's gone after next year(FA) because they believe he wants to be closer to his family, specifically his daughter.

He'll be shopped and if the right deal comes along, they'll do it in a heartbeat, IMO.

I would agree...the morning sports show in Ann Arbor had the dude from Lions Insider on this morning and he said the same thing.


They also had some interesting talk about how Chad Johnson and Palmer pretty much hate each other.

Ocho Cinco was on Jim Rome yesterday and said that Palmer was one of only two people (TJ who's yo mama was the other) who "have my back" so I wonder if he was fudging or not.

[peewee's lovechild]

I call bullshit.

I've looked all over ESPN.com and I read nothing about this supposed rumor.

[Evan]

A friend of mine who lives in Dallas told me he heard on the radio that the Bengals would be willing to trade Chad Johnson for the saftey Roy Williams. He told me they really think Roy can help them in the secondary. Again this is what I was told


I can't see that happening. Far too lopsided unless the Bengals are depserate to move him.

And there is no way Dallas gives up 2 #1's and Barber for the number 1 pick.

Jerry Jones is not an idiot , the guy has his misses but he has been very solid over all. Being a Cowboy fan I have been one of his harshest critics over the years but he has shut me up. I don't think anyone can complain much about what he has done recently. Barber jersey's are a top 5 seller, he knows his value to the franchise on and off the field.

But I can see a #1 and some other players.

[monosylab1k]

TO & Chad Johnson together would never work. I used to like Johnson but his behavior lately has really turned me off of him.

TO only gets disruptive when his team is losing. Ocho Cinco gets pissed when he doesn't get the ball. The year they won their division, Chad Johnson was constantly in screaming matches with Palmer during BLOWOUTS because he wasn't getting the ball.

Considering TO is a better WR, and Romo/Witten has alot more chemistry, there's no way in hell Chad Johnson would settle for being third fiddle. They could go 16-0 and he's be whining the entire year.

Seriously, trading 2 #1's & Barber is a hell of a lot smarter than trading for Chad Johnson.

[monosylab1k]

But I can see a #1 and some other players.
That would make alot more sense. McFadden & Barber together would be a dominating combo.

I'm guessing that Parcells is insisting on getting Barber in the deal since he knows how badass he is.

what about a #1, next year's #1, and force Parcells to take Bobby Carpenter back? I think it makes sense.

[O-Factor]

I agree, the Barber trade is not happening. Its just gibberish by Mortenson of BSPN.

[Whisky Dog]

Hopefully the Cowboys wouldn't trade the guy with the most heart on a team full of chokers. They do need to make some moves though, as this team is weak willed and doesn't have the guts for playoff football. It'll never work as constructed.

[mardigan]

TO & Chad Johnson together would never work. I used to like Johnson but his behavior lately has really turned me off of him.

TO only gets disruptive when his team is losing. Ocho Cinco gets pissed when he doesn't get the ball. The year they won their division, Chad Johnson was constantly in screaming matches with Palmer during BLOWOUTS because he wasn't getting the ball.

Considering TO is a better WR, and Romo/Witten has alot more chemistry, there's no way in hell Chad Johnson would settle for being third fiddle. They could go 16-0 and he's be whining the entire year.

Seriously, trading 2 #1's & Barber is a hell of a lot smarter than trading for Chad Johnson.
There were enough balls to go around for Glenn and TO to both have 1000 yards, so I really dont think it would be a probem, especially since TO and Chad are friends.

[monosylab1k]

There were enough balls to go around for Glenn and TO to both have 1000 yards
yeah but that was at the expense of Witten. Is Romo really going to throw less to Witten just to appease Chad? I know Witten won't complain, but honestly I'd rather have Witten getting the ball than Chad Johnson.

[2centsworth]

Cowboys don't need another Star Receiver. They need a Hines Ward type who's would be happy being the second option. Then mix in a young playmaker like Desean Jackson, and I think they would be set.

[mardigan]

Cowboys don't need another Star Receiver. They need a Hines Ward type who's would be happy being the second option. Then mix in a young playmaker like Desean Jackson, and I think they would be set.
Ward isnt the second option though



http://www.dallascowboys.com/news.cfm?contentType=5&id=D6A36F5E-F104-E9C5-757A6B682A483572


Barbara Jenkins, Louisville, Ky.: Hearing we might trade Marion Barber for the first draft pick seems crazy to me. All season long when we needed a big play, who did the Cowboys count on? Marion Barber every time. I just don't see where the first-round draft pick for an inexperienced player costing us one of the best running backs in the league is logical. My take on Bill Parcells taking all our coaches is if he wanted to have a Cowboys team he shouldn't have left. Why give him any more?

Mickey: Good one. Now hopefully this is the last time I have to tell everyone to chill out on this subject of trading Marion Barber as part of a package to get the first pick in the draft from Miami. First of all, Cowboys owner Jerry Jones just said there is no truth to that rumor. In fact, I'm told he screamed his "NO!" Secondly, the guy who first reported this, ESPN's Chris Mortensen, claims he said people in the Cowboys organization have kicked around what it would take to move up to the first pick in the draft and that it was he who suggested it would take Barber-and to move up that high. He claims he never said the Cowboys were considering trading Barber. Thirdly, would everyone just remember talk is cheap, and the more you guys talk about it, the more the Miami Dolphins get free pub on their willingness to trade the top pick. So if you feel obligated to help Bill Parcells out in Miami, just keep it up.

[2centsworth]

Ward isnt the second option though



http://www.dallascowboys.com/news.cfm?contentType=5&id=D6A36F5E-F104-E9C5-757A6B682A483572



I'm not sure where you're leading. He would be a great second option with the Cowboys. Ward is good, but is far short of a premier receiver like TO. However, Hines has a great team attitude and would be a great 2nd receiver.

[exstatic]

hold on to what we have and draft Felix Jones.
The first mock from cnnsi had Dallas drafting WR Mario Manningham (Michigan) and RB Felix Jones (the other guy from Arkansas). I could live with that, considering that Dallas' acknowledged pair of starting receivers are both closer to forty than thirty, and Crayton is shit. Pair Felix Jones with Barber, and your backfield is upgraded.

McFadden already has off the field issues. Granted, they're not of the calibur of a Mike Rozier, but you're talking betting the franchise on a guy who gets arrested in clubs mere months before the draft. Stupid.

[yavozerb]

Saw this rumor again posted today on yahoo and had me wishing for this off-season:
-Get Barber and Dallas's 2 first rd picks for the #1 overall..
-Then take a #1 and trade it to the bengals for Johnson..
-Then trade a 2nd rd pick for anderson (browns QB)...

Is this asking to much from a dolphins fan?

[Whisky Dog]

Saw this rumor again posted today on yahoo and had me wishing for this off-season:
-Get Barber and Dallas's 2 first rd picks for the #1 overall..
-Then take a #1 and trade it to the bengals for Johnson..
-Then trade a 2nd rd pick for anderson (browns QB)...

Is this asking to much from a dolphins fan?

Cowboys aren't giving up Barber and both 1s

[misterx91578]

Saw this rumor again posted today on yahoo and had me wishing for this off-season:
-Get Barber and Dallas's 2 first rd picks for the #1 overall..
-Then take a #1 and trade it to the bengals for Johnson..
-Then trade a 2nd rd pick for anderson (browns QB)...

Is this asking to much from a dolphins fan?

no way I want Johnson especially for a first round pick

[Mr Dio]

The first mock from cnnsi had Dallas drafting WR Mario Manningham (Michigan) and RB Felix Jones (the other guy from Arkansas). I could live with that, considering that Dallas' acknowledged pair of starting receivers are both closer to forty than thirty, and Crayton is shit. Pair Felix Jones with Barber, and your backfield is upgraded.

McFadden already has off the field issues. Granted, they're not of the calibur of a Mike Rozier, but you're talking betting the franchise on a guy who gets arrested in clubs mere months before the draft. Stupid.


Mario may turn out to be a good one BUT, I don't trust Mich WR's lately (other than Braylon). They flop & fail in the NFL.

Would LOVE to have Jones still there or even work out some type of trade down for extra picks & p/u JCharles who did nothing but get better as the season went on. Awesome speed!

[Mr Dio]

Saw this rumor again posted today on yahoo and had me wishing for this off-season:
-Get Barber and Dallas's 2 first rd picks for the #1 overall..
-Then take a #1 and trade it to the bengals for Johnson..
-Then trade a 2nd rd pick for anderson (browns QB)...

Is this asking to much from a dolphins fan?


High hopes indeed....

[samikeyp]

Mel Kiper also has Manningham going to Dallas.

[peewee's lovechild]

Mel Kiper also has Manningham going to Dallas.

Didn't Mel have Leaf rated over Manning?

Someone did, I just can't remember who.

[DAINTX]

Dumb trade, but Jones may want to get that #1 pick for the publicity value and the Dolphins may have set the only price (Barber, 2 #1s) they'll accept from the Cowboys. So he's thinking...thinking...which is always dangerous with Jones. He sucks in the draft room when he is on his own. I'd suggest doing something with Roy Williams...he can blow you up with the spectacular hits, but can't cover anyone with quickness.

[StylisticS]

I really want Felix Jones or Rashad Mendenhall. Fuck getting McFadden. Don't be dumb Jerry. I do find it funny how all these trade proposals are coming from Miami but you hear nothing from the Dallas side.

[monosylab1k]

Didn't Mel have Leaf rated over Manning?

Someone did, I just can't remember who.
I'm not sure about that, but Kiper insisted that Mike Williams would be a Hall Of Famer. Unless it's the Hall Of Fame for competitive eating, that won't be happening.

[mardigan]

Cowboys | Team unlikely to trade up for McFadden
Mon, 18 Feb 2008 10:25:44 -0800

Mac Engel, of the Star-Telegram, reports the Dallas Cowboys are unlikely to trade up for University of Arkansas RB Darren McFadden in the 2008 NFL Draft, according to NFL sources. The Cowboys believe they will not trade up because owner Jerry Jones does not want to be in the top 10 picks because of the cost.


http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl


Which is what I thought all along, no way Jerry wants to pay a rookie rb that kind of money.

[Spuradicator]

^How many times do the Cowboys have to shoot down this rumor for it to finally go away

[peewee's lovechild]

As many times as it takes.