Where was the Pau Gasol All-Star snub story?

[batboy]

Oh wait that's right, he's a piece of shit and no-one in Memphis even felt he was snubbed.

Yet all of a sudden this board is treating him like an all-star.

[Spurs Dynasty 21]

just shut the hell up, you sound like a whiny Suns/Mavs fan right now



Pau is a very good player who was on a POS team in the western conference, and just got traded to the Lakers for NOTHING

[hsxvvd]

just shut the hell up, you sound like a whiny Suns/Mavs fan right now



Pau is a very good player who was on a POS team in the western conference, and just got traded to the Lakers for NOTHING


I agree with batboy, Whilst Gasol is a good player, I'm getting sick of the "We're all going to die :dramaquee " posts today.

Oh no, the Lakers got a once-was-all-star!

As for the Spurs needing to counter with a trade, Chemistry will be our best weapon against the league come playoffs, but if you insist, I hear Jamaal Maglore is being shopped, he was an all-star too once! :rolleyes

This is great news, the Lakers have committed to Gasol for 3 years, it's not enough to push them over the edge, and they now have their hands tied to make any other significant moves.

[Spurs Dynasty 21]

I agree with batboy, Whilst Gasol is a good player, I'm getting sick of the "We're all going to die :dramaquee " posts today.

Oh no, the Lakers got a once-was-all-star!

As for the Spurs needing to counter with a trade, Chemistry will be our best weapon against the league come playoffs, but if you insist, I hear Jamaal Maglore is being shopped, he was an all-star too once! :rolleyes

This is great news, the Lakers have committed to Gasol for 3 years, it's not enough to push them over the edge, and they now have their hands tied to make any other significant moves.




:lol :lol :lol



this "once was an All Star" you're talking about is averaging 18.9pts 8.8rbs THIS SEASON, and is only 28



It's one thing not to go crazy but it's another thing to go into self defense mode and act like he's shit, and that a starting 5 of Kobe/Gasol/Bynum/Odum/Fisher or Farmar isn't great

[Please_dont_ban_me]

Lol @ ya'll making him sound like he's old and done.

Right now is the prime of his career. He just got fucked because he was in Memphis. This "once all star" will be an all-star again in LA. Or at least play at an all-star level. (Which he arguably already is, numbers wise. He was just stick in Memphis)

[exstatic]

Lol @ ya'll making him sound like he's old and done.

Right now is the prime of his career. He just got fucked because he was in Memphis. This "once all star" will be an all-star again in LA. Or at least play at an all-star level. (Which he arguably already is, numbers wise. He was just stick in Memphis)
I never once said, or implied that he was old. I just said he was a pussy. His career backs me up. If Memphis was a shit team, he was the king turd. It was his team. He couldn't hack it.

[BonnerDynasty]

Pau isn't afraid to grow his beard out and use it as a source of pure domination.

We are doomed.

[T Park]

Pau is a very good player who was on a POS team in the western conference, and just got traded to the Lakers for NOTHING


Whats your point?

Lots of good players get traded to western conference teams and they never do shit with it.

Pau isn't someone I'm gonna lose sleep over.

Go ahead and do it if you want Mrs. Scola.

[daslicer]

Lol @ ya'll making him sound like he's old and done.

Right now is the prime of his career. He just got fucked because he was in Memphis. This "once all star" will be an all-star again in LA. Or at least play at an all-star level. (Which he arguably already is, numbers wise. He was just stick in Memphis)

There is no denying that he's a good player but at the sametime its stupid to fear them because they got him. I don't think getting him is as big as it was in '04 when they got Malone. Malone for that year was a thorn in the spurs way. I don't see Gasol being a thorn the way Malone was in the sense that he could intimidate our players and get away with mugging them ala what he did to Duncan. Also they don't have enough time to establish team chemistry with Bynum being out for 2-3 months. They will be a very good team next year capable of winning around 53-60 but this year is not their year.

Gasol puts up good number like those other euro player such as Hedo,Peja but just like those guys he chokes under pressure. It remains to be seen if GAsol can play in intense playoff pressure games. I'm not sold on Phil Jackson being able to get Gasol to overcome his nervousness when the game gets tight. I just think the ability to play under pressure is something you are born with and can't be manufactured; you either got it or don't.

[LA24]

Also they don't have enough time to establish team chemistry with Bynum being out for 2-3 months. They will be a very good team next year capable of winning around 53-60 but this year is not their year.

You're probably correct.

[DazedAndConfused]

The knocks against Gasol so far are:

1.) Chokes under pressure
2.) Soft on defense

People are forgetting he didn't get traded to Memphis again, this is the Lakers we are talking about. Andrew Bynum is the defensive anchor. He guards the opposing team's most dominant players, period. Pau can hang with most PF in this league, and can certainly D up better than Lamar Odom can. So right there that is an automatic improvement for us. You put Kobe and Ariza on the perimeter and that's a very solid defensive team.

As for Pau choking under pressure, who is the best player on the Lakers and the most clutch player in the NBA? Oh that's right we still have Kobe Bryant. This is still Kobe's team and when the game is on the line he can and will take over. His job will be that much easier with Pau and Bynum demanding so much attention, teams can't double and triple team him because you leave two bigmen with very good hands and finishing abilities alone in the paint.

And stop acting like the Spurs can magically return to their last year's play. They are playing like dogshit now and if Tony Parker and Barry doesn't get back 100% they aren't going anywhere in the playoffs. Spurs weren't winning games with Parker at 75-80%. I'd be very afraid if I were the Spurs because if they can't get their act together LAL will be the least of their problems.

[Ronaldo McDonald]

he's on the all-pussy 1st team and all-ugly 1st team, i believe.

[LA24]

he's on all-ugly 1st team, i believe.

And I believe you're on the all-immature 1st team.

Call him a pussy all you want...but leave the appearance-talk to 1st graders.

[resistanze]

LOL, they got Pau for virtually nothing.

No matter how you spin it, they got a steal. You all sound like fucking idiots trying to discredit Gasol. He's no savior but it was a damn good move which should undoubtedly improve their squad.

[exstatic]

The knocks against Gasol so far are:

1.) Chokes under pressure
2.) Soft on defense

People are forgetting he didn't get traded to Memphis again, this is the Lakers we are talking about. Andrew Bynum is the defensive anchor. He guards the opposing team's most dominant players, period. Pau can hang with most PF in this league, and can certainly D up better than Lamar Odom can. So right there that is an automatic improvement for us. You put Kobe and Ariza on the perimeter and that's a very solid defensive team.

As for Pau choking under pressure, who is the best player on the Lakers and the most clutch player in the NBA? Oh that's right we still have Kobe Bryant. This is still Kobe's team and when the game is on the line he can and will take over. His job will be that much easier with Pau and Bynum demanding so much attention, teams can't double and triple team him because you leave two bigmen with very good hands and finishing abilities alone in the paint.

And stop acting like the Spurs can magically return to their last year's play. They are playing like dogshit now and if Tony Parker and Barry doesn't get back 100% they aren't going anywhere in the playoffs. Spurs weren't winning games with Parker at 75-80%. I'd be very afraid if I were the Spurs because if they can't get their act together LAL will be the least of their problems.
You really don't understand or follow SA at all, do you? They play like dogshit this time every year. Parker isn't close to 100%. I'll give you that. They also shut him down, and it isn't serious, it just needs time. Duncan was a LOT more seriously injured, and later in the season in 2005 and they won it all.

Oh, and you need to worry about getting out of the first round, or SA will be the least of your worries, cupcake.

[LA24]

You really don't understand or follow SA at all, do you? They play like dogshit this time every year. Parker isn't close to 100%. I'll give you that. They also shut him down, and it isn't serious, it just needs time. Duncan was a LOT more seriously injured, and later in the season in 2005 and they won it all.

Spurs are definetly the ONE team I don't want to see in the playoffs until the WCF (that is, if the Lakers even make it that far).

I laugh when people say the Spurs are done. You guys remind me of the 3-peat Lakers. Our regular season didn't impress people...but damn, when the playoffs come...it's a whole different team.

Every single team in the west has something to prove. The Spurs do not.

[DazedAndConfused]

I was just saying don't act like it's a forgone conclusion that the Spurs can just turn on the switch like they've done before. This year's team is older and arguably worse than last year.

[daslicer]

The knocks against Gasol so far are:

1.) Chokes under pressure
2.) Soft on defense


And stop acting like the Spurs can magically return to their last year's play. They are playing like dogshit now and if Tony Parker and Barry doesn't get back 100% they aren't going anywhere in the playoffs. Spurs weren't winning games with Parker at 75-80%. I'd be very afraid if I were the Spurs because if they can't get their act together LAL will be the least of their problems.

Actually you need to get off the crack. Even though Kobe is your main guy in the clutch its critical come playoff time you have other guys step up to score under pressure. All title teams have had a supporting cast filled with guys who can score under pressure. I guess you forgot how important roleplayers like Dfish and Fox were along with Horry who came through in the pressure situation. Pau is as weak as Hedo, and Peja in pressure situation and like I said before it remains to be seen if he can shed that. Don't be a fool either any player that is a major part of the COG of the team has to be able to step up other pressure situations which is your top 6-7 guys. Gasol not instantly becomes the second or third most important player on the team depending on how fast Bynum develops so it is vital that he can step up.

Anways its going to be 2-3 years before LA wins a title even with the core they have right now. First they are going to have to develop the chemistry to win with Gasol comming over there along with the development of Bynum. Plus they got a lot of young guys who are also still developing in Famar,Vujaic. Along with the fact they don't have enough experience on what it takes to go deep into the playoffs outside of Kobe all these guys except for Lamar have never been out of the first round. Factor in 2 of your COGs in Odom and Gasol melt in pressure situations that will lead to having some problems int he playoffs.

I'm not going to be a fool an deny the Lakers didn't get a bargain in getting GAsol for nothing becasue they did. What Gasol has now done for the lakers is made them into a team capable of being in the top 4 in the west instead of being a team fighting for a playoff spot. Thats still far off from being a title contender. Also keep in mind titles don't happen overnight even if you have a team that looks good on paper it doesn't guarantee anything. The Shaq-Kobe laker teams before they won the title in '00 had multiple all-stars but could never get it done when it counted along with winning 57-60 plus wins year in and year out.

[Obstructed_View]

who is the best player on the Lakers and the most clutch player in the NBA?
You won't like hearing this, but Kobe Bryant is only the answer to one of those, not both.

You just added a guy with a history of playoff failure to a team that can't get out of the first round of the playoffs. Maybe that extra firepower will push the Lakers to the conference semis this year. Since they're likely to have home court in the first round, that just means they avoid an upset. Let me know when they schedule the parade.

As a Spurs fan, the Pau acquisition ranks below Grant Hill and Allen Iverson on my giveashit-o-meter.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

I never once said, or implied that he was old. I just said he was a pussy. His career backs me up. If Memphis was a shit team, he was the king turd. It was his team. He couldn't hack it.

By that logic, D'Wade is a turd.

It's a shit team. Wade's a pussy too? Sometimes you're just in bad situations and your ownership sucks.

[Obstructed_View]

By that logic, D'Wade is a turd.
I'm sorry, refresh my memory on Pau Gasol's Finals MVP award.

[Ronaldo McDonald]

And I believe you're on the all-immature 1st team.

Call him a pussy all you want...but leave the appearance-talk to 1st graders.

and u, sir, and on the all-sensitive 1st team. calm the fuck down.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

and u, sir, and on the all-sensitive 1st team. calm the fuck down.
:tu
But you gotta admit he has a kickass beard.

[exstatic]

By that logic, D'Wade is a turd.

It's a shit team. Wade's a pussy too? Sometimes you're just in bad situations and your ownership sucks.
Has Gasol ever hoisted the Larry O'Brien? Has Gasol ever gotten out of the first round? The answer to those two is the same. Don't compare someone who has been to the mountain to someone who hasn't even seen, let alone climbed it.

What KO'd Miami this year wasn't DWade, it was two things: injuries and cap death. LA is headed for the same cap death by getting a 4th wheel who makes a MAX salary, yet produces at a pussy level.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

Has Gasol ever hoisted the Larry O'Brien? Has Gasol ever gotten out of the first round? The answer to those two is the same. Don't compare someone who has been to the mountain to someone who hasn't even seen, let alone climbed it.

What KO'd Miami this year wasn't DWade, it was two things: injuries and cap death. LA is headed for the same cap death by getting a 4th wheel who makes a MAX salary, yet produces at a pussy level.

You missed the point.

There are numerous players on bad teams, who are good players. Elton Brand, Jermain O'neal, Ben Gordon, Kevin Durant, Mike Bibby, so on so forth. Just because there team sucks doesn't mean they suck.

Gasol puts up stats. And he has gotten his team to the playoffs.

The fact that he had NOBODY around him is not his fault, its the coach and organizations. He is putting up good numbers this year as well.

[LakeShow]

You won't like hearing this, but Kobe Bryant is only the answer to one of those, not both.

You just added a guy with a history of playoff failure to a team that can't get out of the first round of the playoffs. Maybe that extra firepower will push the Lakers to the conference semis this year. Since they're likely to have home court in the first round, that just means they avoid an upset. Let me know when they schedule the parade.

As a Spurs fan, the Pau acquisition ranks below Grant Hill and Allen Iverson on my giveashit-o-meter.

Yeah, that's the way I feel, as a Lakers fan about an OLD spurs team signing another OLD player that can't guard his shadow. Meaningless move!

[LA24]

and u, sir, and on the all-sensitive 1st team.

Likewise.


calm the fuck down

I am calm, sir.

[LA24]

As a Spurs fan, the Pau acquisition ranks below Grant Hill giveashit-o-meter.

Sorry, you're in denial. This comment is hitting the red in my bullshit-o-meter.

[DazedAndConfused]

Actually you need to get off the crack. Even though Kobe is your main guy in the clutch its critical come playoff time you have other guys step up to score under pressure. All title teams have had a supporting cast filled with guys who can score under pressure. I guess you forgot how important roleplayers like Dfish and Fox were along with Horry who came through in the pressure situation. Pau is as weak as Hedo, and Peja in pressure situation and like I said before it remains to be seen if he can shed that. Don't be a fool either any player that is a major part of the COG of the team has to be able to step up other pressure situations which is your top 6-7 guys. Gasol not instantly becomes the second or third most important player on the team depending on how fast Bynum develops so it is vital that he can step up.

Anways its going to be 2-3 years before LA wins a title even with the core they have right now. First they are going to have to develop the chemistry to win with Gasol comming over there along with the development of Bynum. Plus they got a lot of young guys who are also still developing in Famar,Vujaic. Along with the fact they don't have enough experience on what it takes to go deep into the playoffs outside of Kobe all these guys except for Lamar have never been out of the first round. Factor in 2 of your COGs in Odom and Gasol melt in pressure situations that will lead to having some problems int he playoffs.

I'm not going to be a fool an deny the Lakers didn't get a bargain in getting GAsol for nothing becasue they did. What Gasol has now done for the lakers is made them into a team capable of being in the top 4 in the west instead of being a team fighting for a playoff spot. Thats still far off from being a title contender. Also keep in mind titles don't happen overnight even if you have a team that looks good on paper it doesn't guarantee anything. The Shaq-Kobe laker teams before they won the title in '00 had multiple all-stars but could never get it done when it counted along with winning 57-60 plus wins year in and year out.

Wrong, wrong, wrong. Before Bynum went down the Lakers were already the #1 team in the WC. Let me repeat that, the #1 team in the WC. If Bynum had not gone down along with Ariza they would still be in the top 3 of the WC no question. So not only are they already a top 4 WC team with the team they have healthy, they get to add an All-Star PF player for basically nothing. Gasol is the missing piece we've been searching for all these years. A guy who can give you consistent production and wont disappear like Odom does. We have our twin towers now and we will OWN the paint. Gasol is not a great man defender but he is an excellent help defender, and that's what his role will be with Bynum anchoring the paint.

The only edge the Spurs have now is playoff experience. BUT, the Lakers have Kobe+Fisher+Phil Jackson and everyone on the team has been in the playoffs before so it won't be something new. There is enough playoff experience between the key starters, considering 3 of them have actually made it out of the 1st round, for it not to be an issue IMHO.

And dont act like the Spurs are a top team right now, they are playing like dogshit. They struggle to even score 90 pts a game. Parker is injured, Barry is injured, Horry is useless, and nobody outside of Manu and Tim can score. If the Spurs can't get the entire team healthy by the playoffs they won't be the favorites IMHO. And health is never something that is guaranteed. The rest of the WC is catching up, and the Spurs did nothing in the offseason to improve their team. You are seeing how risky that might have proven to be.

[himat]

Has Gasol ever hoisted the Larry O'Brien? Has Gasol ever gotten out of the first round? The answer to those two is the same.

That does not matter (that he has never go out of the first round). If you are on a bad team you usually lose in the first round. Here is the key stat for me. Pau has never one a playoff GAME in his whole career.

[hsxvvd]

Gasol is the missing piece we've been searching for all these years. A guy who can give you consistent production and wont disappear like Odom does.

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

"A guy who was swept 3 consecutive years....and failed to make 30 wins every other"

I'm going to remember this one when your off :fishing come 2nd round.

[daslicer]

Wrong, wrong, wrong. Before Bynum went down the Lakers were already the #1 team in the WC. Let me repeat that, the #1 team in the WC. If Bynum had not gone down along with Ariza they would still be in the top 3 of the WC no question. So not only are they already a top 4 WC team with the team they have healthy, they get to add an All-Star PF player for basically nothing. Gasol is the missing piece we've been searching for all these years. A guy who can give you consistent production and wont disappear like Odom does. We have our twin towers now and we will OWN the paint. Gasol is not a great man defender but he is an excellent help defender, and that's what his role will be with Bynum anchoring the paint.

The only edge the Spurs have now is playoff experience. BUT, the Lakers have Kobe+Fisher+Phil Jackson and everyone on the team has been in the playoffs before so it won't be something new. There is enough playoff experience between the key starters, considering 3 of them have actually made it out of the 1st round, for it not to be an issue IMHO.

And dont act like the Spurs are a top team right now, they are playing like dogshit. They struggle to even score 90 pts a game. Parker is injured, Barry is injured, Horry is useless, and nobody outside of Manu and Tim can score. If the Spurs can't get the entire team healthy by the playoffs they won't be the favorites IMHO. And health is never something that is guaranteed. The rest of the WC is catching up, and the Spurs did nothing in the offseason to improve their team. You are seeing how risky that might have proven to be.

First off the spurs are playing like dogsh1t and they still have the record the Lakers have or even better I haven't checked recently. That should tell you the Lakers aren't all that. Lol Dfish+Pjax means sh1t in the scheme of things Phill has been exposed the last few years. I heard sh1t for the last few years about him giving Lamar and Kwame confidence nad making them into better players. We already saw how that work out one turn out to be a bust and got traded the other one always plays scared in pressure situations. I will love to see how Phill gives the edge that a soft player like Gasol lacks in big tim situations.

Also playing in the first round the last few years and getting elminated doesn't really give the lakers the experience to go for a title run in the playoffs. I can't recall a team ever winning a championship despite having been eliminated the year before in the playoffs. The closet that ever happened was Shaq's magic in '95 but despite being younger and having more talent they got their asses swept by Hakeems rockets. Whether you like it or not experience counts for a lot thats why teams like the Hornets,Lakers,Blazers, Jazz,Warriors are highly unlikely to go for a title run this year. Youth and experience is deadly ala bull of '91 that were still young and had expereince thats why they beat up on the Pistons who had aged by then. The only team I see that causes the spurs serious problems in the west is the Mavs and thats it.

You dog the spurs for not having anybody outside of of Parker,Ginobilli,Duncan that score consistently. Who does the lakers have that can consistently score points outside of Kobe and now Gasol(who is still a question mark come playoff time?). Odom dissapears half of the time, and the rest of your team is filled with young role players that are on and off every other game.

Don't play the injury card either because by your bs logic the spurs would still be number 1 if they didn't suffer the injuries did. They started off 17-3 and was by far the best team in the west at that point until they suffered a bunch of nagging injuries. Ariza is not as important as losing Ginobilli,Duncan,Parker for periods of time. I'll give you a pass on Bynum he is your only low post presence.

I love how you also play the old card. We have heard that sh1t for the last few years now. Yes the spurs are old but its more wishful hoping by other fans that suddenly the spurs are going to become a bottom feeding team. Whether or not the spurs win the title this year they will still be an elite team for the next 2-3 years as long as they have Parker,Ginobilli, Duncan. We will hear the same sh1t from you next year. I kind of enjoy it its kind of like how fans bitched about Jazz throught he mid to late 90's hoping they would fall apart due to age.

[DazedAndConfused]

Did it ever occur to you that the Lakers record is where it is because Bynum, Ariza, Vlade, and Mihm all went down at the same time? If they didn't we'd be right up there at the top of the WC. And our records our tied at the moment FWIW.

You talk shit about Phil Jackson being exposed, but he still found a way to beat the shit out of the Spurs in '04 (4-2). These last few years he simply hasn't had the talent to go all the way. The fact that he took a team that started Smush Parker, Kwame Brown, and Luke Walton to the playoffs twice is remarkable. The fact is he is the best active coach in the NBA and he's got 9 rings to prove it. He 3-peated with the Bulls twice and once with the Lakers. Don't ever question him.

The Lakers have a better offense than the Spurs. Numbers don't lie. When the team is fully healthy we have Kobe, Bynum, Gasol, Fisher, and Odom who can put up double figures on any given night. We also have the #2 bench in the league. Offense is not a problem. With 2 7 footers controlling the paint defense won't be an issue either. We flat out have more depth and versatility than any team in the WC right now and we will be contending for the next decade.

[DazedAndConfused]

The Nuggets and Suns are both examples of teams with tons of talent but crappy coaches. Like I said you need coaching and talent to win championships.

If you are going to sit here and tell me that Phil Jackson is a crappy coach and had nothing to do with the 9 rings he's gotten well then I'm not even going to bother responding to you. You really give Spurs fans a bad name.

[Rummpd]

Spurs have a guy coming in next year Tiago Splitter who has held his own against Gasol in international competition!

[Obstructed_View]

Sorry, you're in denial. This comment is hitting the red in my bullshit-o-meter.
No, I'm not the one riding so high on the post-Kwame adrenaline that I think my team just signed Karl Malone (a move that didn't even work out when you actually GOT Karl Malone).

Lamar Odom has a better chance of suddenly becoming a high basketball IQ player than Pau has of becoming anything more than a gutless stat-padder. Pau can score a little bit. That's nice, but not necessary considering your team already has the greatest scorer in the game.

[Obstructed_View]

If you are going to sit here and tell me that Phil Jackson is a crappy coach and had nothing to do with the 9 rings he's gotten well then I'm not even going to bother responding to you. You really give Spurs fans a bad name.
Has nothing to do with Jordan, Pippen, Shaq and Kobe. Look at all the championships he's won without them. Look how successful he is with less than two of those names on his team at a time.

[DazedAndConfused]

Has nothing to do with Jordan, Pippen, Shaq and Kobe. Look at all the championships he's won without them. Look how successful he is with less than two of those names on his team at a time.

What the hell are you guys trying to argue?

I've said all along you need talent and coaching to win championships. You think Pop didn't have extraordinary talent with Duncan, Manu, Parker, Robinson? You think Pop would have taken the Laker teams of the last 3 years anywhere in the playoffs?

You give Phil a talented team and he produces rings. He's done it on two different teams. Outside of Kobe Bryant the Laker teams of the last 3 seasons haven't had a single All-Star player and yet they still managed to make the playoffs twice. Phil Jackson is the best coach in the NBA, period.

To quote BostonGuy


If the Spurs had gotten Gasol, you would be doing back flips and jumping with joy getting all excited. If the Lakers had a bad head coach, I could see this as a negative thing but Phil is the best damn coach in NBA History. You are just pissed off Lakers landed Gasol for nothing and trying to throw the ego/soft card to make yourself feel better. Deep down inside you know this team is more than capable of really doing something this year and it concerns you.

[LA24]

No, I'm not the one riding so high on the post-Kwame adrenaline that I think my team just signed Karl Malone (a move that didn't even work out when you actually GOT Karl Malone).

I'm not riding high at all. I've even said the Spurs are the team to beat. No where did I say Gasol will lead the Lakers to a championship.

But at the same time, you are bullshitting when you imply that Grant Hill's trade was a bigger move. You will never pass the lie detector test with that. And implying how Gasol will make no impact whatsoever is just as absurd.



Lamar Odom has a better chance of suddenly becoming a high basketball IQ player than Pau has of becoming anything more than a gutless stat-padder.

Hyperbole at its best.


Pau can score a little bit. That's nice, but not necessary considering your team already has the greatest scorer in the game.

Try applying that same logic to your own team. See, it fails.

Try again...no wait...for our sake, don't.

[DazedAndConfused]

Spurs fans and logic don't seem to coincide.

[bostonguy]

Jeff..you are a moron..and I'm so sick and tired of even talking to you!

Really I had no idea..Jackson had 4 hall of famers on his team when he beat Spurs..dumbass..and The Pistons wiped his ass in the finals that year..and look at the talent level on the Pistons compared to the Lakers!

Larry Brown owned Phil Jackson..made him look like a little bitch!!!!! And then Phil being a little douche bag retires from coaching and writes a book bitching about Kobe. Phil realized that he wants the lime lite back so he came back to coaching..lets not forget his salary of $10 million, which is now $13 million per year.

Kobe took the team to the playoffs not Jackson..Kobe runs that team, not Jackson. He shoots as much as he wants whenever he wants without any consequences period! Kobe decides when to ball hog and when to pass...its not like Jackson goes up to Kobe before the game and says "I don't want you to shoot today, so get your teammates involved"; or "I want you to shoot as much as possible, whenever you have the ball do whatever you want!"
Kobe runs the Lakers!

And please shut the fuck up about the 9 rings..Michael with the help of Scottie won those rings..and if you don't know that your as dumb as a post. I could have sat on the bench and the bulls would have still won those titles. He had the greatest player ever and another top 50 player in Scottie! It wasn't Jackson's coaching.

The only reason the Lakers won those titles were because they were so damn stacked. They had the deepest bench and the most dominate player ever..not because of Jackson.

Also, shut the up about Bynum the kid is decent he is averaging 13 points a game you act like he the greatest center in the league..Wow he scores a lot of points against the Suns and Warriors name 1 big man who doesn't?


Now I'm going to say it again..Fisher is old man and Parker owns his ass..Lamor is worse than Marion in the playoffs. stop talking about how Fisher and Odom are producers because their not!

Your offense got better but not your defense.. We also have 2 7 footers that roam around the middle and always do to.

I can't believe you said the Lakers have second deepest bench in the league..really I love how you came up with that one!

So with all that talent as you say Phil should win the title...so I guess since I live in Los Angeles I'll see you in parade in June!!!

lastly the team that should be dominating in years is going to be Portland they have a deep bench and have two all-star players right now in Roy and Aldridge and if Oden can be decent then that team will be hard to beat.

And talent doesn't mean shit either...perfect example look at the Nuggest with their Melo, AI, Camby and Kmart..and the Suns, with Nash, Amare, Marion, Grant Hill.

Shit your an idiot!


The Lakers were actually more stacked before Phil came along. That team was so fucking talented it was disgusting. Del Harris coaching them didnt help improve their chances. They had problems and tons of distractions. A head coach was missing and they landed the greatest one ever in Phil Jackson. He meshed that talent and had them playing as a team. Despite the Lakers imploding in 04, Phil managed to keep that team in tact for 5 years. If it was any other coach, the Lakers would have imploded alot sooner. I guess Pop doesnt deserve any credit as a coach. He hasnt won anything without Duncan. Hell it was Duncan and the rest of the big 3 who led them to those titles, not Pops coaching.

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During the 90's Dennis Rodman didnt last long in San Antonio, LA, Dallas yet managed to work out in Chicago. Phil Jackson controlled Dennis well as he wasnt a cancer by any means. Phil Jackson comes back and the Lakers make the playoffs ever since. If anything, Phil is showing even more reason on why he is the best damn coach in NBA History.

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LOL, they got Pau for virtually nothing.

No matter how you spin it, they got a steal. You all sound like fucking idiots trying to discredit Gasol. He's no savior but it was a damn good move which should undoubtedly improve their squad.

Yep. Lakers got a steal. Gasol is an excellent player. Maybe not quite the franchise player the Grizzlies hoped he would be, but only a fool would try to downplay the importance of this trade. The Lakers, who were already dangerous, just got a lot better, at least on paper.

We'll have to wait and see what this does to the chemistry of the team, but I think the Lakers made the deal of the season.

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Yep. Lakers got a steal. Gasol is an excellent player. Maybe not quite the franchise player the Grizzlies hoped he would be, but only a fool would try to downplay the importance of this trade. The Lakers, who were already dangerous, just got a lot better, at least on paper.

We'll have to wait and see what this does to the chemistry of the team, but I think the Lakers made the deal of the season.
Exactly. He'll be at most the team's second option, and that's with all the injuries they have now. I mean, they got rid of Kwame Brown for god's sake.

I guess people are just being hostile because of the expected onslaught of Laker Fan bandwagoning. I don't seem them as immediate championship contenders this season, but the playoffs in the West just got that much more interesting.

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the playoffs in the West just got that much more interesting.


If anything, this should be a challenge for whomever draws the Lakers in the first round...and the second round....and maybe if they make it to the WCF