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just shut the up, you sound like a whiny Suns/Mavs fan right now
Pau is a very good player who was on a POS team in the western conference, and just got traded to the Lakers for NOTHING
Oh wait that's right, he's a piece of and no-one in Memphis even felt he was snubbed.
Yet all of a sudden this board is treating him like an all-star.
just shut the up, you sound like a whiny Suns/Mavs fan right now
Pau is a very good player who was on a POS team in the western conference, and just got traded to the Lakers for NOTHING
I agree with batboy, Whilst Gasol is a good player, I'm getting sick of the "We're all going to die" posts today.
Oh no, the Lakers got a once-was-all-star!
As for the Spurs needing to counter with a trade, Chemistry will be our best weapon against the league come playoffs, but if you insist, I hear Jamaal Maglore is being shopped, he was an all-star too once!
This is great news, the Lakers have committed to Gasol for 3 years, it's not enough to push them over the edge, and they now have their hands tied to make any other significant moves.
I agree with batboy, Whilst Gasol is a good player, I'm getting sick of the "We're all going to die
Oh no, the Lakers got a once-was-all-star!
As for the Spurs needing to counter with a trade, Chemistry will be our best weapon against the league come playoffs, but if you insist, I hear Jamaal Maglore is being shopped, he was an all-star too once!
This is great news, the Lakers have committed to Gasol for 3 years, it's not enough to push them over the edge, and they now have their hands tied to make any other significant moves.
this "once was an All Star" you're talking about is averaging 18.9pts 8.8rbs THIS SEASON, and is only 28
It's one thing not to go crazy but it's another thing to go into self defense mode and act like he's , and that a starting 5 of Kobe/Gasol/Bynum/Odum/Fisher or Farmar isn't great
Lol @ ya'll making him sound like he's old and done.
Right now is the prime of his career. He just got ed because he was in Memphis. This "once all star" will be an all-star again in LA. Or at least play at an all-star level. (Which he arguably already is, numbers wise. He was just stick in Memphis)
I never once said, or implied that he was old. I just said he was a pussy. His career backs me up. If Memphis was a team, he was the king turd. It was his team. He couldn't hack it.
Pau isn't afraid to grow his beard out and use it as a source of pure domination.
We are doomed.
Pau is a very good player who was on a POS team in the western conference, and just got traded to the Lakers for NOTHING
Whats your point?
Lots of good players get traded to western conference teams and they never do with it.
Pau isn't someone I'm gonna lose sleep over.
Go ahead and do it if you want Mrs. Scola.
There is no denying that he's a good player but at the sametime its stupid to fear them because they got him. I don't think getting him is as big as it was in '04 when they got Malone. Malone for that year was a thorn in the spurs way. I don't see Gasol being a thorn the way Malone was in the sense that he could intimidate our players and get away with mugging them ala what he did to Duncan. Also they don't have enough time to establish team chemistry with Bynum being out for 2-3 months. They will be a very good team next year capable of winning around 53-60 but this year is not their year.
Gasol puts up good number like those other euro player such as Hedo,Peja but just like those guys he chokes under pressure. It remains to be seen if GAsol can play in intense playoff pressure games. I'm not sold on Phil Jackson being able to get Gasol to overcome his nervousness when the game gets tight. I just think the ability to play under pressure is something you are born with and can't be manufactured; you either got it or don't.
You're probably correct.
The knocks against Gasol so far are:
1.) Chokes under pressure
2.) Soft on defense
People are forgetting he didn't get traded to Memphis again, this is the Lakers we are talking about. Andrew Bynum is the defensive anchor. He guards the opposing team's most dominant players, period. Pau can hang with most PF in this league, and can certainly D up better than Lamar Odom can. So right there that is an automatic improvement for us. You put Kobe and Ariza on the perimeter and that's a very solid defensive team.
As for Pau choking under pressure, who is the best player on the Lakers and the most clutch player in the NBA? Oh that's right we still have Kobe Bryant. This is still Kobe's team and when the game is on the line he can and will take over. His job will be that much easier with Pau and Bynum demanding so much attention, teams can't double and triple team him because you leave two bigmen with very good hands and finishing abilities alone in the paint.
And stop acting like the Spurs can magically return to their last year's play. They are playing like dog now and if Tony Parker and Barry doesn't get back 100% they aren't going anywhere in the playoffs. Spurs weren't winning games with Parker at 75-80%. I'd be very afraid if I were the Spurs because if they can't get their act together LAL will be the least of their problems.
he's on the all-pussy 1st team and all-ugly 1st team, i believe.
And I believe you're on the all-immature 1st team.
Call him a pussy all you want...but leave the appearance-talk to 1st graders.
LOL, they got Pau for virtually nothing.
No matter how you spin it, they got a steal. You all sound like ing idiots trying to discredit Gasol. He's no savior but it was a damn good move which should undoubtedly improve their squad.
You really don't understand or follow SA at all, do you? They play like dog this time every year. Parker isn't close to 100%. I'll give you that. They also shut him down, and it isn't serious, it just needs time. Duncan was a LOT more seriously injured, and later in the season in 2005 and they won it all.
Oh, and you need to worry about getting out of the first round, or SA will be the least of your worries, cupcake.
Spurs are definetly the ONE team I don't want to see in the playoffs until the WCF (that is, if the Lakers even make it that far).
I laugh when people say the Spurs are done. You guys remind me of the 3-peat Lakers. Our regular season didn't impress people...but damn, when the playoffs come...it's a whole different team.
Every single team in the west has something to prove. The Spurs do not.
I was just saying don't act like it's a forgone conclusion that the Spurs can just turn on the switch like they've done before. This year's team is older and arguably worse than last year.
Actually you need to get off the crack. Even though Kobe is your main guy in the clutch its critical come playoff time you have other guys step up to score under pressure. All le teams have had a supporting cast filled with guys who can score under pressure. I guess you forgot how important roleplayers like Dfish and Fox were along with Horry who came through in the pressure situation. Pau is as weak as Hedo, and Peja in pressure situation and like I said before it remains to be seen if he can shed that. Don't be a fool either any player that is a major part of the COG of the team has to be able to step up other pressure situations which is your top 6-7 guys. Gasol not instantly becomes the second or third most important player on the team depending on how fast Bynum develops so it is vital that he can step up.
Anways its going to be 2-3 years before LA wins a le even with the core they have right now. First they are going to have to develop the chemistry to win with Gasol comming over there along with the development of Bynum. Plus they got a lot of young guys who are also still developing in Famar,Vujaic. Along with the fact they don't have enough experience on what it takes to go deep into the playoffs outside of Kobe all these guys except for Lamar have never been out of the first round. Factor in 2 of your COGs in Odom and Gasol melt in pressure situations that will lead to having some problems int he playoffs.
I'm not going to be a fool an deny the Lakers didn't get a bargain in getting GAsol for nothing becasue they did. What Gasol has now done for the lakers is made them into a team capable of being in the top 4 in the west instead of being a team fighting for a playoff spot. Thats still far off from being a le contender. Also keep in mind les don't happen overnight even if you have a team that looks good on paper it doesn't guarantee anything. The Shaq-Kobe laker teams before they won the le in '00 had multiple all-stars but could never get it done when it counted along with winning 57-60 plus wins year in and year out.
You won't like hearing this, but Kobe Bryant is only the answer to one of those, not both.
You just added a guy with a history of playoff failure to a team that can't get out of the first round of the playoffs. Maybe that extra firepower will push the Lakers to the conference semis this year. Since they're likely to have home court in the first round, that just means they avoid an upset. Let me know when they schedule the parade.
As a Spurs fan, the Pau acquisition ranks below Grant Hill and Allen Iverson on my givea -o-meter.
By that logic, D'Wade is a turd.
It's a team. Wade's a pussy too? Sometimes you're just in bad situations and your ownership sucks.
I'm sorry, refresh my memory on Pau Gasol's Finals MVP award.
and u, sir, and on the all-sensitive 1st team. calm the down.
But you gotta admit he has a kickass beard.
Has Gasol ever hoisted the Larry O'Brien? Has Gasol ever gotten out of the first round? The answer to those two is the same. Don't compare someone who has been to the mountain to someone who hasn't even seen, let alone climbed it.
What KO'd Miami this year wasn't DWade, it was two things: injuries and cap death. LA is headed for the same cap death by getting a 4th wheel who makes a MAX salary, yet produces at a pussy level.
You missed the point.
There are numerous players on bad teams, who are good players. Elton Brand, Jermain O'neal, Ben Gordon, Kevin Durant, Mike Bibby, so on so forth. Just because there team sucks doesn't mean they suck.
Gasol puts up stats. And he has gotten his team to the playoffs.
The fact that he had NOBODY around him is not his fault, its the coach and organizations. He is putting up good numbers this year as well.
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