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Duff McCartney
01-06-2005, 03:55 PM
I was thinking this over in the shower, where all my great ideas come from. But I got to thinking...the Rockets are desperately wanting a point guard. What do you think the Rockets would give the Spurs for Beno? Conversely, what would you be willing to take for Beno?

Dex
01-06-2005, 03:58 PM
Maybe we can get Charlie Ward back. :lmao

blackbucket
01-06-2005, 03:58 PM
Just stick to rubbing one out.

CosmicCowboy
01-06-2005, 04:00 PM
Just stick to rubbing one out.

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

Spurminator
01-06-2005, 04:06 PM
If we traded Beno, we'd be desperate for a backup, and the Rockets don't have anyone I'd want for my backup.

genghisrex
01-06-2005, 04:07 PM
The Rockets have Yao, TMac, and a bunch of crap. Short of the first two I'd rather have Beno and Houston's not cashing in one of their stars for our backup PG.

exstatic
01-06-2005, 04:23 PM
I agree that the Rox have little that we would want that they would trade to us, but sometime in the next few years the Spurs need to think about moving Beno. They simply will not pay a backup what he could get on the open market, and they could either get value or offload a bad contract.

Slo spurs fan
01-06-2005, 04:27 PM
HEY!! WTF?? :wtf :wtf :cuss :flipoff
Beno's not going anywhere :nope
Is that clear? :makemyday

exstatic
01-06-2005, 04:29 PM
Dude, I love his game, but in 3+ years, he's going to walk away for nothing. Not advocating a trade NOW, but somewhere down the line, they could get a young player, a draft pick, or move a contract instead of seeing him just walk away. The Spurs simply will NOT pay two PGs.

manustarting2gd
01-06-2005, 04:30 PM
Duff, First off..Who the hell told you that it was a great idea?!

Solid D
01-06-2005, 04:37 PM
1. Unless it involves T-Mac or Yao, who else do the Rockets have that would be a better talent than Beno?
2. Trades within the division seldom happen for obvious reasons.
3. Ideas are good. Perhaps your next shower will provide another idea.
4. We like Beno, so hit the showers. :hat

T Park
01-06-2005, 04:37 PM
The Spurs simply will NOT pay two PGs.

Link?

GoSpurs21
01-06-2005, 04:40 PM
Dude, I love his game, but in 3+ years, he's going to walk away for nothing. Not advocating a trade NOW, but somewhere down the line, they could get a young player, a draft pick, or move a contract instead of seeing him just walk away. The Spurs simply will NOT pay two PGs.How do know that if Beno approaches Stocken like play the Spurs wont trade Tony and sign Beno for something less than what Tony will make?

Either way its not a bad problem to have.

exstatic
01-06-2005, 04:41 PM
Link?
Provide your own link to any E-N articles about the wrangling that finally had to involve Tim Duncan to get a deal done for ONE PG. Recall Speedy Claxton taking a walk for nothing.

Useruser666
01-06-2005, 04:59 PM
Beno and Rasho for Yao! :huh

ChumpDumper
01-06-2005, 05:15 PM
We let Speedy walk because we were waiting around for Jack.

We've spent the past three years overestimating the amount at which Spurs will re-up.

The simple fact that Pop is actively seeking opportunities to play Beno with Parker should indicate that the plans might go beyond 3-4 years.

ALVAREZ6
01-06-2005, 05:16 PM
Why would we want to trade Beno, that would be a retarded move.

Beno is our PG if tony get's hurt. He's gonna be good.

boutons
01-06-2005, 05:35 PM
"We let Speedy walk because we were waiting around for Jack."

huh? Speedy walked by himself to START somewhere else (only to see NVE signed also), seeing Tony was annointed as Spurs starter as far as the eye could see.

Simiarly, I expect RC will get trade/$$$ waved in his face in a year or two for Beno to start elsewhere. And nobody can fault Beno for wanting to start in NBA.

redeye
01-06-2005, 06:05 PM
:nope :nope This is stupid....

Solid D
01-06-2005, 06:07 PM
Duff, maybe you should play some old McCartney or Beatles songs backwards and see if you can hear any better trade ideas. :fro

ChumpDumper
01-06-2005, 06:13 PM
huh? Speedy walked by himself to START somewhere elseNope. It was in the E-N last year.

CosmicCowboy
01-06-2005, 06:24 PM
You know its good to be a Spurs fan when the biggest forum controversy of the day is whether we will be able to re-sign our backup point guard in 2008.

ShoogarBear
01-06-2005, 06:36 PM
I agree with Chump: where's the rule that says you can't have a future Tony-Beno backcourt?

You would probably need to upgrade the front-line with another first-class low-post threat to get away with it, but it's not an impossible idea.

Hell, we were talking about a Tony-JKidd backcourt two years ago.

CHAMPS AGAIN
01-06-2005, 06:40 PM
I was thinking this over in the shower, where all my great ideas come from. But I got to thinking...the Rockets are desperately wanting a point guard. What do you think the Rockets would give the Spurs for Beno? Conversely, what would you be willing to take for Beno?

I want T-MAC and YAO. Keep your ideas and thinking in the shower. :elephant :smokin :princess :hat

ALVAREZ6
01-06-2005, 06:40 PM
Duff this a retarded thread.

CosmicCowboy
01-06-2005, 06:47 PM
where's the rule that says you can't have a future Tony-Beno backcourt?

having a 1-2 punch at 6'-2" & 6'-3" gives up a bunch on defense...Nelson might do it but I seriously doubt Pop would consider it unless he was going small because the matchup allowed it...

ShoogarBear
01-06-2005, 06:54 PM
having a 1-2 punch at 6'-2" & 6'-3" gives up a bunch on defense...Nelson might do it but I seriously doubt Pop would consider it unless he was going small because the matchup allowed it...

Yeah, I understand that, and Pop is probably the last coach who'd ever get creative with a short backcourt.

My point is that it's not something that you can just dismiss because it wouldn't work. What about the matchup problems the other way? What 2 guard in the league wants to guard TP?

20 years ago a trial run for a TP-Beno backcourt would have been a no-brainer. Somehow, it's now become mandated that your 2 has to be 6'5" or bigger.

Frenchise player
01-06-2005, 06:59 PM
Why there are so many posts about trading someone in the spurs roster?
It is already the best team in the NBA.

CosmicCowboy
01-06-2005, 07:00 PM
20 years ago a trial run for a TP-Beno backcourt would have been a no-brainer. Somehow, it's now become mandated that your 2 has to be 6'5" or bigger.

I am not trying to pick a fight...I really like Beno...but 20 years ago we didn't have the 2's in the league that could and would step back and drain 3's....and height is a definite advantage in putting pressure on perimeter shots...

CosmicCowboy
01-06-2005, 07:02 PM
Why there are so many posts about trading someone in the spurs roster?
It is already the best team in the NBA.

This thread started because Duff was thinking about Beno while he was in the shower rubbing one out.

not that there is anything wrong with that...:lol

ShoogarBear
01-06-2005, 07:04 PM
I am not trying to pick a fight...I really like Beno...but 20 years ago we didn't have the 2's in the league that could and would step back and drain 3's....and height is a definite advantage in putting pressure on perimeter shots...

Again, understood, and I agree.

Maybe it wouldn't work. But you never know what will actually happen until you try it.

exstatic
01-06-2005, 07:13 PM
You know its good to be a Spurs fan when the biggest forum controversy of the day is whether we will be able to re-sign our backup point guard in 2008.
Actually, push will come to shove quicker than that. His year 4 option must be picked up before year 3 starts, which will be late Oct/early Nov 2006. If they don't pick that up, he loses value as an UFA in 2007. If they do, they'd need to trade him during year 3, because year 4 would be a one year contract, meaning no trade.

Believe me, I'd love to live in Candy Land where all players are re-signed, but that ain't where we reside. You people want him back, but he's going to get paid by someone. I think it would take at least a Malik type of deal to keep him, and you people are screaming about that contract for a forward that averaged 10.4/6.4 in the first year of his new deal. Beno is averaging 6 points and 2.1 assists. He's probably not going to see a lot more time in this system, and as efficient as he's been, that means the numbers probably don't go up much. Prepare to scream just as much for any deal Beno would get as you do about Malik's.

ChumpDumper
01-06-2005, 08:03 PM
Um, folks --we've already seen Parker/Beno on the floor a few times this season.

We only have four players under contract for Beno's RFA year, so you can't really say upon whom the Spurs will be spending. The new rules make it much easier to run smaller lineups anyway, and they aren't changing back.
Actually, push will come to shove quicker than that. His year 4 option must be picked up before year 3 starts, which will be late Oct/early Nov 2006. If they don't pick that up, he loses value as an UFA in 2007. Why would any team over the cap pass up a $2.7 million option on a guard who will supposedly be worth much more?

Jimcs50
01-06-2005, 08:05 PM
Beno is not going anywhere.

ChumpDumper
01-06-2005, 08:11 PM
Let's just slow our collective roll. Last week we were losing Devin to a super-MLE deal -- what's his market value this week?

SequSpur
01-06-2005, 08:17 PM
Rockets suck.

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ChumpDumper
01-06-2005, 08:18 PM
Now we know you can't read.

SequSpur
01-06-2005, 09:45 PM
Eat it beyitch.

ChumpDumper
01-06-2005, 09:46 PM
Great take, Mom.

Spurminator
01-06-2005, 10:58 PM
Nice run from the Beno/Parker backcourt in the 2nd Quarter tonight.

ChumpDumper
01-07-2005, 12:25 AM
:drunk

2pac
01-07-2005, 02:00 AM
If we traded him to Dallas, they could have a team of:

Dirk
BENO
Armstrong
Terry
Harris

Small ball at it's finest.