Suns interested in Brent Barry

[timvp]

Suns interested in Brent Barry
Scott Bordow, Tribune

The Suns may not be done wheeling and dealing. A team source said that Phoenix would like to find a way to acquire veteran sharpshooter Brent Barry, who was traded Wednesday from the San Antonio Spurs to the Seattle SuperSonics.

For Barry to become a Sun, the Sonics would have to buy out his contract, the source said. Barry is making $5.5 million this year and is in the final year of his contract.

Barry, 36, is averaging 7.3 points per game this year and shooting 43 percent from 3-point range. He would be an ideal fit for Phoenix, given that defenses may sag inside to try to stop Shaquille O’Neal.

http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/109476

[timvp]

Looks like whottt was right . . .

[Road Warrior]

No!

[adidas11]

Very interesting...

Did whott call this?

[SA Gunslinger]

Fuck you Steve Kerr!

[Bruno]

Great. :rolleyes

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Looks like whottt was right . . .great! now you'll need another server to house that ego of his :lol

[timvp]

Did whott call this?Yeah. This adds more fuel to that whottt = Erin Barry.

[AFBlue]

Says nothing about Barry wanting to go to Phx...

If he were to get waived, I think the first place he'd look to go is right back to SA.

After all, I think he'd have a better chance of getting back in this rotation than cutting into the tight 7-man rotation that the Suns have.

[remingtonbo2001]

I doubt Brent would do that. I'm sure it's possible Phoenix could clear him off waivers. If they don't and Brent is allowed to choose, I'd say San Antonio is his likely destination.

[TDMVPDPOY]

fok this kerr dude pryin on spurs roster

man fok this

[T Park]

Phoenix shows interest.

Uh huh.

Brent would fit in. Great shooter bad defender.

If it happens it would suck, but, its not the end of the world.

I still think Barry would come back. Lots of friends, the fam is here and he loves it in SA.

[ChumpDumper]

Don't they still have the Thomas trade exception?

Apparently, they don't want him that badly.

[Holt's Cat]

Provided that Brent isn't done.

So either the Spurs don't make a deal and go into the postseason with Francisco Elson as their 4th big, with maybe Horry having enough gas in the tank as their 3rd big, or they take care of that in spades with Thomas and have to deal with the possibility that a hobbled Barry ends up somewhere else.

Oh and it's not like Phoenix doesn't already have guys who can shoot the rock.

[td4mvp21]

I don't think he would go to Phoenix.

[picnroll]

When was Barry expected to be back from his injury or was there no definite date?

[Holt's Cat]

Don't they still have the Thomas trade exception?

Apparently, they don't want him that badly.

No kidding. Where are they in relation to the lux tax threshold?

[Holt's Cat]

When was Barry expected to be back from his injury or was there no definite date?


Yeah, that was never clear, or I wasn't paying attention.

[T Park]

Provided that Brent isn't done.

So either the Spurs don't make a deal and go into the postseason with Francisco Elson as their 4th big, with maybe Horry having enough gas in the tank as their 3rd big, or they take care of that in spades with Thomas and have to deal with the possibility that a hobbled Barry ends up somewhere else.

Oh and it's not like Phoenix doesn't already have guys who can shoot the rock.

I don't understand how Thomas went from a "good pickup" with the said trade proposed wich was thomas for Barry and Elson, now all of a sudden its "BAD"

I don't get that.

[ancestron]

oh noes

[BonnerDynasty]

We gave Barry rings!

If it comes down to him having to make a big shot in the playoffs against us, He'll miss on purpose!

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

If he were to sign with them it would break my heart.

[remingtonbo2001]

We gave Barry rings!

If it comes down to him having to make a big shot in the playoffs against us, He'll miss on purpose!


:lol

[TDMVPDPOY]

kurt thomas cost the suns 2 first round picks,

sonics gm took one from the spurs

htf is kurt thomas worth 3 first round picks? hahhahahahaha

rich gets richer, rich gets robbed

[Agloco]

Rut ro

[1Parker1]

Oh Man, Barry would be perfect in the Suns system...he has also been a Suns killer the past couple seasons :depressed

[Brutalis]

He won't play for the Suns you can count on that.

[whottt]

Erin Barry isn't hoping Barry is out for the season...Whottt is.

[Russ]

Why not the Lakers for Brent? Brent's hometown team. He seems like the kind of vet Phil would like. He's got the experience/rings. Hopefully this will not come back to bite the Spurs. I always thought that Brent was very underrated by Spurs fans -- I mean wanting that JR Smith guy for Brent, come on.

[1Parker1]

Why do Spurs fans think Barry wouldn't go to the Suns?? Out of some sort of loyalty to the Spurs...who just traded him?

[Radiosparks]

I believe there that had to be a wink exchanged by both parties. Wishful thinking...maybe??

[whottt]

Why not the Lakers for Brent? Brent's hometown team. He seems like the kind of vet Phil would like. He's got the experience/rings. Hopefully this will not come back to bite the Spurs. I always thought that Brent was very underrated by Spurs fans -- I mean wanting that JR Smith guy for Brent, come on.



Barry will be sought after because he's a pro that is one of the best shooters and passers in the NBA...

I can guarantee you either the Lakers or Suns will sign him if he becomes available....

He tore the Lakers up when he was in Seattle...the Shaq Kobe Phil Lakers. Neither Phil nor D'antoni will double off him...as has been apparent to anyone that has watched a Spurs game in Barry's career.


He's smart, he's clutch and makes his teams better offensively just by touching the ball...and most importantly...he knows everything the Spurs run up to the latest tweaks.

[misterx91578]

Brent Barry has been traded to the Sonics, but remains out with a calf injury.
He should be set to return in the next week or so, but will likely have a limited role with the Sonics, just like he did with the Spurs. Barry may not be done moving yet, as there are rumors that the Suns will try to acquire him from the Sonics. Stay tuned. from rotoworld

[Ghost Writer]

For Barry to become a Sun, the Sonics would have to buy out his contract, the source said. Barry is making $5.5 million this year and is in the final year of his contract.
Without breaking my b@lls too much, why do teams do the "buyout" instead of playing or letting a guy like Barry ride the pine until the summer and let him walk?

In other words, why not just keep Barry... what's the benefit of buying him out now?

Question.

[Holt's Cat]

Without breaking my b@lls too much, why do teams do the "buyout" instead of playing or letting a guy like Barry ride the pine until the summer and let him walk?

In other words, why not just keep Barry... what's the benefit of buying him out now?

Question.


Reduce payroll.

[ChuckD]

Why do Spurs fans think Barry wouldn't go to the Suns?? Out of some sort of loyalty to the Spurs...who just traded him?
Don't he have kids in school here?

:fro

[picnroll]

He can be bought out for less than the $5.5, Say he agrees to $5 and the Sonics pocket the other $.5.

[whottt]

I believe there that had to be a wink exchanged by both parties. Wishful thinking...maybe??



I hope so...all the Sonics have to do is not buy him out.



I'd prefer they just hold on to him because if they let him go and he goes to LA or Phoenix, I'll be forced to hate his ass and I'd prefer not to do that.

[SpurOutofTownFan]

Just throwing this out there... but I remember Barry said people at Phoenix treated him like shit during the last playoffss. He commented an old lady came over and told him he was a piece of shit or something like that and gave him the finger.

Ultimately if you have to eat, you'll go work anywhere but I think Barry has the luxury now to work whenever he wants for mostly the same money. Why go to Phoenix?

[samikeyp]

I could see LA but not Phoenix.

[Ghost Writer]

Reduce payroll.
Do you think that is a priority of Seattle's this year?

Will they treat Barry coming back as a reunion tour of sorts?

Be great to re-acquire Barry, but don't see it as a necessity.

[Budkin]

Brent is coming back here... I can feel it.

[Dex]

Fortunately, even as a Brent Barry fan, I can never say he was very good at coming back to haunt his old teams.

[Dex]

That being said, I'm still hoping entBray pulls a ackhouseStay.

[Holt's Cat]

Do you think that is a priority of Seattle's this year?

Will they treat Barry coming back as a reunion tour of sorts?

Be great to re-acquire Barry, but don't see it as a necessity.


I think any NBA team (except in certain circumstances) would like to pay less for the same production.

[sprrs]

Report: Spurs interested in Dwight Howard.

Doesn't mean they'll get him.

[timvp]

Fortunately, even as a Brent Barry fan, I can never say he was very good at coming back to haunt his old teams.Good point. Barry didn't exactly explode against the Sonics in 2005 . . .

[T Park]

Good point. Barry didn't exactly explode against the Sonics in 2005 . . .

20 minutes.

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[z0sa]

barry is defenseless. his offense was great but hes now a very one dimensional player : spot up, in rare occassions handle the ball not to drive, but to start the offense. on the fast break he makes good decisions.

thats about it.

[Agloco]

Just throwing this out there... but I remember Barry said people at Phoenix treated him like shit during the last playoffss. He commented an old lady came over and told him he was a piece of shit or something like that and gave him the finger
Ultimately if you have to eat, you'll go work anywhere but I think Barry has the luxury now to work whenever he wants for mostly the same money. Why go to Phoenix?

http://unitedweblog.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/helambu_trip_04.jpg

She still owes me a dime-sack......

[ChumpDumper]

Do you think that is a priority of Seattle's this year?You mean Oklahoma City's -- and yes.

[cheguevara]

even if he went to the Suns. Which he won't. Spurs defense is great at guarding 3pt threats. Suns were always filled with good 3pt shooters. this is nothing new

and if he's bought out. WOuldn't the Spurs try to get him back? I think so. Remember. Pop is pissed at the Lakers deal so he will fuck with Stern as much as he can.

I'm sure all this has been discussed by Barry and Pop in closed quarters.

[Admidave50]

I expect Sam Presti to do the right thing!

[whottt]

barry is defenseless. his offense was great but hes now a very one dimensional player : spot up, in rare occassions handle the ball not to drive, but to start the offense. on the fast break he makes good decisions.

thats about it.


Incredibly wrong...aside from the injuries, he's remarkably mobile for a man his age...

Do not confuse Pop's vision of his role on this team with his actual ability, Beno.

[SA Gunslinger]

If Brent comes back, he will be Spurs royalty in my book.

[FromWayDowntown]

I'd think a buyout for Barry would be substantially less than $5 million or whatever this year's base contract value is, since the season is more than 60% complete. Barry's contract, at this point, is only worth whatever fraction of the season is left -- probably somewhere around $2 million. If the Sonics would rather not pay him (or if they'd rather not have him around taking minutes from younger players) they could offer something less than that.

Brent has an incentive to accept such a deal because it would allow him to sign with a team that might have a chance to win a title. The Sonics could, meanwhile, alleviate some payroll concerns (they're in the positive if they can get Brent to take, say, $1 million of the $2 million left on the deal, I would think).

I think the buyout scenario is quite plausible. I just wonder where he might end up after a buyout is completed. I have a sinking feeling it won't be San Antonio -- and perhaps not because Brent would prefer to play elsewhere; I wonder if the league is going to permit that sort of re-acquisition even if it's technically very different from the Stackhouse scenario.

[z0sa]

Incredibly wrong...aside from the injuries, he's remarkably mobile for a man his age...

Do not confuse Pop's vision of his role on this team with his actual ability, Beno.

beno?

i didnt say he wasnt remarkably mobile, but hes still not young and athletic. and if you're somehow saying Brent's an able defender, he never was and never will be.

where was my take incredibly wrong?

dont take me wrong, I love the guy, and would hope he ended up back here. His shooting is perfect and I'll never forget that suns series in 05. But you can't really expect him to be slashing to the basket for a dunk can you? Or driving on his man throughout the game creating for others in a half court set?

[Holt's Cat]

I'd think a buyout for Barry would be substantially less than $5 million or whatever this year's base contract value is, since the season is more than 60% complete. Barry's contract, at this point, is only worth whatever fraction of the season is left -- probably somewhere around $2 million. If the Sonics would rather not pay him (or if they'd rather not have him around taking minutes from younger players) they could offer something less than that.

Brent has an incentive to accept such a deal because it would allow him to sign with a team that might have a chance to win a title. The Sonics could, meanwhile, alleviate some payroll concerns (they're in the positive if they can get Brent to take, say, $1 million of the $2 million left on the deal, I would think).

I think the buyout scenario is quite plausible. I just wonder where he might end up after a buyout is completed. I have a sinking feeling it won't be San Antonio -- and perhaps not because Brent would prefer to play elsewhere; I wonder if the league is going to permit that sort of re-acquisition even if it's technically very different from the Stackhouse scenario.

As long as he doesn't indicate any such intention exists and neither does the team, what exactly can the league do about it?

[MannyIsGod]

Without breaking my b@lls too much, why do teams do the "buyout" instead of playing or letting a guy like Barry ride the pine until the summer and let him walk?

In other words, why not just keep Barry... what's the benefit of buying him out now?

Question.God damn, DOES NO ONE ON THIS SITE KNOW HOW BUYOUTS WORK???


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[mob]

explain then fastass

[RonMexico]

Suns interested in Brent Barry
Scott Bordow, Tribune

The Suns may not be done wheeling and dealing. A team source said that Phoenix would like to find a way to acquire veteran sharpshooter Brent Barry, who was traded Wednesday from the San Antonio Spurs to the Seattle SuperSonics.

For Barry to become a Sun, the Sonics would have to buy out his contract, the source said. Barry is making $5.5 million this year and is in the final year of his contract.

Barry, 36, is averaging 7.3 points per game this year and shooting 43 percent from 3-point range. He would be an ideal fit for Phoenix, given that defenses may sag inside to try to stop Shaquille O’Neal.

http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/109476


If they could work Mickael Gelabale into the deal, then it would work out very well. Hopefully, Seattle would like the trade exception and a 2nd round pick, because I don't know if the Suns have much else to offer. Barry always lit up the Suns in US Airways Center, so hopefully he could do the same in Purple and Orange.

This might be the best season of NBA action I've seen in years.

[RonMexico]

Then again, there are rumblings that the Suns will also wait until after the deadline to see if any buyouts are completed and if Barry falls into that mix, it could get interesting.

I still want the Suns to go after Quinton Ross because he's long, quick, and young.... doesn't quite have the range, but Grant Hill and him could be some midrange monsters.

[ploto]

The Suns are in deep trade talks in an effort to fill their final roster spot before Thursday's trade deadline passes.

Phoenix is likely to target Los Angeles Clippers guard Quinton Ross, according to Sports 620 KTAR.

Ross is averaging 4.3 points and 2.4 rebounds per game while playing more than 20 minutes per game.

The three-year veteran is set to earn $800,000 this season and would fill the Suns need for a wing player.

The Suns worked out four players Tuesday in their search to fill the 13th roster spot, but Suns General Manager Steve Kerr said the Suns would strongly consider filling the final spot via trade.

http://www.ktar.com/sports/?nid=21&sid=739242

[ploto]

People need to realize that Brent may not want to wait 30 days to sign with a team, especially if some other team really wants him. Brent took less money to come to SA and spent most of that time involved in trade rumors, including being notified he was being traded two years ago to the Hornets. Why assume he wants to come back to the Spurs?

[Holt's Cat]

If the Suns added Barry via the trade exception then wouldn't that put them over the lux tax threshold? That would be rather costly for a 36 year old guard who may be 60% of what he was earlier this season.

[Ghost Writer]

I remember in the game Barry's got injured, his last as a Spur, he surrendered the baseline and got badly burned.

Pop was livid.

[boutons_]

I was thinking last night about his kids' school situation. He could leave them and Erin here to finish the school year, and Erin to continue her charity work. Then decide what to do, where to retire after the season.

[Phenomanul]

What's worse, if Barry does come back, the naysayers will 'find' that elusive reason to asterisk the Spurs this season. They'll say we broke the rules etc... Fortunately for us Barry is 100x smarter than Stackhouse.

[Holt's Cat]

I was thinking last night about his kids' school situation. He could leave them and Erin here to finish the school year, and Erin to continue her charity work. Then decide what to do, where to retire after the season.


Yeah, it's not like he's in SA all of the time. It's the NBA life. Sure, that could make returning to SA a plus for him. But so could a few extra mil for retirement. I'm sure the Barrys could handle a few months apart for that.

[Holt's Cat]

What's worse, if Barry does come back, the naysayers will 'find' that elusive reason to asterisk the Spurs this season. They'll say we broke the rules etc... Fortunately for us Barry is 100x smarter than Stackhouse.


Who cares?

[Phenomanul]

Who cares?



meh.... I guess no Championship is controversy-free.

[ploto]

Yeah, it's not like he's in SA all of the time. It's the NBA life. Sure, that could make returning to SA a plus for him. But so could a few extra mil for retirement. I'm sure the Barrys could handle a few months apart for that.
Steve Kerr's wife and kids stayed in SA an entire year when he got traded to the Jailblazers. Then when they were just about to sign papers on a house there, Kerr got traded back to SA.

It is not as if the Barrys have ties to SA. Erin has done wonderful work wherever they have lived. She has adjusted to a new city time and again. People act as if peole don't have to move and kids don't have to change schools all the time. Being in SA, military kids came and went all the time. NBA players wives and kids do the same.

[E20]

Without breaking my b@lls too much, why do teams do the "buyout" instead of playing or letting a guy like Barry ride the pine until the summer and let him walk?

In other words, why not just keep Barry... what's the benefit of buying him out now?

Question.
Save money (it depends I think?) and open up a roster spot so you can sign a player you actually need right now (in the short term).

[RonMexico]

The Suns are in deep trade talks in an effort to fill their final roster spot before Thursday's trade deadline passes.

Phoenix is likely to target Los Angeles Clippers guard Quinton Ross, according to Sports 620 KTAR.

Ross is averaging 4.3 points and 2.4 rebounds per game while playing more than 20 minutes per game.

The three-year veteran is set to earn $800,000 this season and would fill the Suns need for a wing player.

The Suns worked out four players Tuesday in their search to fill the 13th roster spot, but Suns General Manager Steve Kerr said the Suns would strongly consider filling the final spot via trade.


http://www.ktar.com/sports/?nid=21&sid=739242

I think Quinton Ross would be huge. I really hope that happens. Barry is probably losing a step, but the Suns have lost a spot up 3 point shooter who they might need to replace (James Jones). Barry is probably a small upgrade over Piatkowski in the athletic department.

D'Antoni would have to play at least 8 guys, which I don't know he'll ever do. It's so lame watching this guy ruin a team that Pop and Phil would have taken to a title years ago.

[hater]

we will resign Barry

[whottt]

What's worse, if Barry does come back, the naysayers will 'find' that elusive reason to asterisk the Spurs this season. They'll say we broke the rules etc...


And they'll be telling the truth...so why would that bother you?


Only bothers you when the Lakers and Mavs do it?


The Spurs either have integrity and play by the rules, or else they don't...if they don't then why try to say they do?

I'll take the title...but I won't be on the board getting outraged when other team do similar stuff, or call us out for it...after the Spurs do it.

[picnroll]

Ross, Barry, doesn't matter. The Suns are toast unless Shaq can find the fountain of youth or a time machine.

[timvp]

And they'll be telling the truth...so why would that bother you?


Only bothers you when the Lakers and Mavs do it?

I'm ready to officially become a Mav Fan because the Spurs traded Barry :(

[Budkin]

Come on guys, you all know he's coming back here this season...

[MoSpur]

:lol

[loveforthegame]

Come on guys, you all know he's coming back here this season...

I wish I was as confident as some of you about Barry returning to SA. The Spurs FO seem pretty happy with what Udoka has shown and see him as Barry's replacement so to speak.

Can the Spurs afford to wait the 30 days from when Barry is (if) waived without some insurance in the meantime? I guess they could go the cheap route and sign someone like Langford on the cheap but I'm hoping the Spurs have something else in mind.

[FromWayDowntown]

As long as he doesn't indicate any such intention exists and neither does the team, what exactly can the league do about it?

I'm supposing that the league might presume that there was some under-the-table deal or exert some pressure to keep the face of the league up after all of the squawking about the Stackhouse deal. In the main, I think you're right -- in fact, at his All-Star press conference, the Commissioner said something like "I'm not going to make the Mavericks' argument for them, but there would be nothing wrong with a player returning to a team in that situation if there was no proof of a pre-arranged deal to allow that to happen." Perhaps that was a signal that the Stackhouse situation was unique and that if teams and players keep their mouths shut, there would be no static about that outcome.

[FromWayDowntown]

Suppose that in telling Barry about the deal, Buford or Pop said something like "We understand that the Sonics intend to buy out your contract and if that happens, we would be very interested in bringing you back. We didn't want to include you in a deal, but had to do so to make the numbers work." I don't think that's the sort of collusive deal that the league prohibits -- in fact, I'm not sure that the league would be able to prove that such a conversation took place absent an admission by some party to the deal -- but at the same time it would convey to Brent that dealing him wasn't a slap in the face or anything like that.

I thought it was interesting that the Spurs didn't (apparently) say much about either player they sent out other than to say that you have to give up good to get good (unless you're the Lakers). No gushing platitudes about Brent Barry or anything like that; it's very different than the atmosphere that surrounded the Rose/Mohammed deal, I think.

[picnroll]

Collusion no doubt goes on all the time in many forms that are against the written rules. It's just that it is the rare exception where someone is stupid enough to talk like Stackhouse or leave a paper trail like McHale.

[ploto]

The only problem with that theory is that the Spurs have been trying to trade Brent Barry for years-- comes off pretty insincere to say they really did not want to trade him.

[thispego]

Come on guys, you all know he's coming back here this season...
im gonna have to go with Budkin on this one

[picnroll]

Anytime a player is traded, then waived or bought out and comes back to his original team it's obviously a set deal. Going forward they either change the rule so you can't return that year or just allow it even if someone is dumb enought to talk about it.

[whottt]

Tim Duncan was never held to 5 points in a playoff game, yeah, that's the ticket

[Que Gee]

There's a certain team on the East coast that has a roster spot open as well...

[MannyIsGod]

The reason the Spurs have been trying to trade Barry is the same reason they tried to trade Rose so much. Players with that size contract who have a decent amount of game are always the most tradeable assets on a team.

I don't know if Barry wants to come back. I don't think that its some kind of slam dunk like the rest of the people here do, but I'd have to think that unless Brent was hurt by the trade severely then he'd still want to be here. I think he has roots here regardless of what Pluto may say. When you heard him talk about the time he was almost traded to the Hornets, you got the feeling he had no desire to leave, so that would indicate a desire to stay in San Antonio and perhaps a desire to return.

We'll see.

[Ghost Writer]

You guys saw this, right:

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/sonics/2004193001_sonix210.html

In addition to a 2009 first-round pick, the trade for Thomas netted seldom-used center Francisco Elson and injured guard Brent Barry, a former Sonic from 1999 to 2004. Both players have contracts that expire after the season, and it's likely that Barry, who has missed the past 3 ½ weeks with a left calf strain, will be offered a buyout on his $5.4 million contract.
Not confirmation, but affirmation of the dollar amount.

[Trainwreck2100]

If the Suns sign him he'll be a bench player and will only set foot on the floor if a fight breaks out