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Findog
02-24-2008, 08:45 PM
Kidd or Dirk?

Dirk tonight: 28, 8 and 2 on 10-15 shooting

Kidd tonight: 12 points, 17 assists, 7 rebounds and 4 steals on 5-9 shooting.

debo
02-24-2008, 08:46 PM
looks pretty even, who has more rings?

Findog
02-24-2008, 08:48 PM
looks pretty even, who has more rings?

Kidd has two Finals appearances out of the Least, Dirk has one out of the West. The Least to West conversion ratio is probably 2:1, so they're even there too.

Armando
02-24-2008, 08:50 PM
Avery Johnson

manufor3
02-24-2008, 08:50 PM
Dirk.
kidd just got there.
i would think howard but he's not and option

sribb43
02-24-2008, 08:54 PM
Dirk.
kidd just got there.
i would think howard but he's not and option

howard is the only mavs that hasnt adapted to Kidd

Findog
02-24-2008, 08:56 PM
howard is the only mavs that hasnt adapted to Kidd

Why do you think that is? Low basketball IQ or lingering back contusion? Before the trade I thought he would've been the guy that would complement Kidd the best.

ludda
02-24-2008, 09:05 PM
Josh Howard is overrated.

I told you guys Kidd still got it. I would say equal between Kidd and Dirk, I only caught the last quarter but Kidd single handedly got the Mavs the lead.

z0sa
02-24-2008, 09:05 PM
Why do you think that is? Low basketball IQ or lingering back contusion? Before the trade I thought he would've been the guy that would complement Kidd the best.

No shit. I would say low BB IQ - at least after 06's finals :elephant

sribb43
02-24-2008, 09:09 PM
Why do you think that is? Low basketball IQ or lingering back contusion? Before the trade I thought he would've been the guy that would complement Kidd the best.

BB IQ...ill-advised jump shots, lack of courtvision, stupid fouls, inability to show up in the 2nd half of games....the list goes on and on...the back might be an issue but all the things l listed have go on the whole year. i really like J-Ho but he is overated

Findog
02-24-2008, 09:16 PM
I hate that is a giant black hole on offense. 27 shots against Memphis, 18 against Minnesota, and he made like 13 of them. who the fuck do you think you are Josh?

Holmes_Fans
02-24-2008, 09:22 PM
Since Jason Kidd joined the team, Dirk has shot 29/45 63% from the field and 3/5 from 3 point

ludda
02-24-2008, 09:23 PM
Slightly OT, but a question for Mav fans:

so Harris said it was impossible to get 15ish assists in Avery's system. I haven't watched the Mavs until the last quarter tonight since the Kidd trade, but is the offense different with Kidd? Was it Avery's system or is it just that Harris can't pass/doesn't have the court vision?

Findog
02-24-2008, 09:28 PM
Slightly OT, but a question for Mav fans:

so Harris said it was impossible to get 15ish assists in Avery's system. I haven't watched the Mavs until the last quarter tonight since the Kidd trade, but is the offense different with Kidd? Was it Avery's system or is it just that Harris can't pass/doesn't have the court vision?

We're running and fastbreaking a lot more, and you're seeing things like a full-court bounce pass to Jason Terry for an easy layup, things like that. He's even making Dampier look like a scorer. Bottom line, he's getting the rest of the guys easier looks. A guy doesn't even have to make a move to score, the work is already done for him.

Findog
02-24-2008, 09:30 PM
And a lot of his turnovers are coming from guys having never expected to receive a pass before. Case in point: early in the game, Kidd drove to the basket, Dampier assumed position to box out and received a pass in the small of his back. They're going to have to learn that with Kidd, you are open, even if you think you're not.

Armando
02-24-2008, 09:33 PM
Slightly OT, but a question for Mav fans:

so Harris said it was impossible to get 15ish assists in Avery's system. I haven't watched the Mavs until the last quarter tonight since the Kidd trade, but is the offense different with Kidd? Was it Avery's system or is it just that Harris can't pass/doesn't have the court vision?


I think that Johnson and Cuban realized that Devin Harris in his 4th year is not as good as Paul or Deron Williams are in their 3rd season. Even though I think in a playoff series while Dallas should beat Utah or New Orleans Kidd is going to have a tough time trying to defend Paul or Williams or for that matter Nash or Parker.

Flight3107
02-24-2008, 09:36 PM
I think that Johnson and Cuban realized that Devin Harris in his 4th year is not as good as Paul or Deron Williams are in their 3rd season. Even though I think in a playoff series while Dallas should beat Utah or New Orleans Kidd is going to have a tough time trying to defend Paul or Williams or for that matter Nash or Parker.


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lefty
02-24-2008, 09:40 PM
Josh Howard

endrity
02-24-2008, 09:51 PM
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Flo-Rida
02-24-2008, 10:11 PM
J-Ho

Findog
02-24-2008, 10:15 PM
All of you picking Howard haven't watched a Mavs game since the trade. He's been suckin'.

ludda
02-24-2008, 10:24 PM
I never understood the hype around Howard. He's the most gutless Mav in the 4th quarter and he has a hot temper.

Findog
02-24-2008, 10:29 PM
I can't wait until Howard gets over his broken heart from his best buds getting traded to New Jersey. We'll really be clicking once he pulls his head out of his ass.

Spuradicator
02-24-2008, 10:31 PM
Dirk is still the man on the team. They go as far as he takes them. I think he's talented enough to take them all the way even if he hasn't proven it yet.

MrChug
02-24-2008, 10:33 PM
looks pretty even, who has more rings?

Low blow, but fkn funny.

endrity
02-24-2008, 10:42 PM
Dirk is still the man on the team. They go as far as he takes them. I think he's talented enough to take them all the way even if he hasn't proven it yet.

:toast

lurker
02-24-2008, 10:50 PM
Two good games against non-teams, and some already think Kidd is the best player on the team? How insulting to Dirk and Josh. :lol

mavsfan1000
02-24-2008, 10:51 PM
Dirk though Kidd is right there with him. They compliment each other perfectly it seems. I can't believe how well the chemistry is right now with Kidd's passing but I've seen Terry have success in the past with getting players involved with simple passes so put in a much better passer and the offense is fluid. Kidd is not effective without the shooters and the shooters are not as effective without Kidd.

Findog
02-24-2008, 10:55 PM
Two good games against non-teams, and some already think Kidd is the best player on the team? How insulting to Dirk and Josh. :lol

Kidd has definitely lifted this team. I have to keep reminding myself that it was the Grizz and T-Pups, but here's something that is heartening: against Memphis, we jumped out to that huge lead, they made a run and cut the lead to 7, Kidd came back into the game and we didn't just hang on for the win, he helped turn it into a blowout again.

Against Minny, he helped ignite that push out of the locker room in the 3rd quarter to build up a 12-point lead, and then when he went out, they got back into it. When he came back into the game with 7 minutes left and it was tied, we didn't just win, he dominated and we turned it into a blowout. The final score is deceptive, it was nip and tuck for 41 minutes. Part of this team's problems have been executing down the stretch in the fourth quarter.

mavsfan1000
02-24-2008, 11:02 PM
Terry has lifted this team as well. He is playing unbelievably well beside Kidd. Our starters were unbelievable but we need some help from the bench.

Findog
02-24-2008, 11:04 PM
Terry had the best plus/minus tonight of anybody, +28

And I love watching him get a full-court bounce pass from Kidd for the easy layup ahead of the other team in transition.


"Have you watched the Mavs? Who's running with Kidd on that team other than Howard? Dirk is slow. Erick Dampier is slow. Terry doesn't go within 20 feet of the basket. Stack stopped running five years ago. Who's left?"

Dumbass Bill Simmons. This may have to go in my sig before all is said and done.

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02-25-2008, 04:14 PM
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stretch
02-25-2008, 04:54 PM
Dirk is the key. No question about it. Kidd compliments him well, but Dirk will be the main focus of opposing defenses still.