Trade Aftermath: Your rankings

[LakerMagic]

Before all these teams play eachother how do you think these elite teams each team would stack up against eachother. These are my rankings. What are yours?

The Teams:
1)Lakers - I see the Lakers beating each team below :fro
2)Spurs - I see the Spurs beating each team below
3)Pistons - The team to beat in the East
5)Celtics - I'd love to see a Lakers Celtics finals, but Detroit may spoil
4)Mavs - Once Kidd gets use to the team I think they will be competitive
6)Cavs - 2nd best trade after the Gasol trade
7)Hornets - No experience to go far in the playoffs
8) Rockets - McGrady can't carry a team
9)Suns - Bad move, :lmao

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[Findog]

Swap 1 and 2 and you're on the mark. Gasol and a healthy Bynum elevated the Lakers to legit contenders, but Kurt Thomas I think cinched the West for San Antonio. They have the bigs to match up with any team in the west.

[LakerMagic]

I respect your opinion, but I'll keep 1 and 2 the same. Can't wait for Lakers/Spurs either. Hopefully Bynum will be back and in good form by then.

[Findog]

If we sign Magloire, then that puts us in the top three for sure.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Swap 1 and 2 and you're on the mark. Gasol and a healthy Bynum elevated the Lakers to legit contenders, but Kurt Thomas I think cinched the West for San Antonio. They have the bigs to match up with any team in the west.


You think so? I hope you are right, but our offense can be completely non existent sometimes (which is scary considering we have a big 3)


And I agree on the Maglore comment, he would be a very very solid pickup for you guys.

It's almost to the point where I don't even know WHO I want SA to get in the first round. Maybe the rockets? Though they've played well against us this season.

[LakerMagic]

I want the suns in the first round for my Lakers. And i want Dantoni to cry in the post game conference after we eliminate them.

[Findog]

The way the West is this year there's really no need to worry about who you're going to draw, it's going to be a stout team.

[LakerMagic]

I forgot to include Utah, they are playing really well right now!

[MajicMan]

If we sign Magloire, then that puts us in the top three for sure.
No it doesn't.

Boston
Spurs
Lakers
Detroit
Suns
Rockets

Mavs/Hornets/Jazz/Cavs

[ludda]

Rockets don't belong. Good for their winning streak. Blazers had one too. Woohoo.

Suns- I dont know yet.
Mavs- I don't know yet (depends if they strengthen their C position, if not, they little chance)

The top 4: Spurs, Lakers, Pistons, Celtics.

[Findog]

No it doesn't.

Boston
Spurs
Lakers
Detroit
Suns
Rockets

Mavs/Hornets/Jazz/Cavs

Mavs> Suns and Rockets right now, you clearly are unfamiliar with Dallas' complete and utter ownage of Houston the last three years. If we get a decent backup C for Dampier, we're no worse than Boston. Sorry, take off your hater glasses for just a second. We have an outside shot at a title right now, and if we get the backup C we need after Diop's departure, we have as good a shot as anybody.

[BonnerDynasty]

I want Hornets, PHX, & Utah.

[LakerMagic]

Im on board with a 16 team tourney. I know the NBA's concern with that is travel, but I think the ratings would really jump! You'd have historic teams like Lakers/Celtics facing eachother in playoff rounds that are not the championship round. You'd have Spurs/Detroit old school series. Suns/Cavs. Cavs/ Nuggets? Rockets/Orlando(Dwight/Yao) And you would truly get the 2 best teams in the finals. Lakers/Spurs anybody? The matchups would be awesome!

[Findog]

If it weren't for the injury woes of the last three weeks, we'd be #1 in the West easy.

[JamStone]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the Rockets win against New Orleans was the only win against a legitimately elite team in the league during their win streak. The streak is impressive nonetheless, but as mentioned the Blazers had a similar win streak and it was in large part due to a heavy home schedule against mostly bad teams or average teams.

[LakerMagic]

Im on board with a 16 team tourney. I know the NBA's concern with that is travel, but I think the ratings would really jump! You'd have historic teams like Lakers/Celtics facing eachother in playoff rounds that are not the championship round. You'd have Spurs/Detroit old school series. Suns/Cavs. Cavs/ Nuggets? Rockets/Orlando(Dwight/Yao) And you would truly get the 2 best teams in the finals. Lakers/Spurs anybody? The matchups would be awesome!

Other intriguing potential matchups in this system:
Spurs/Cavs
Suns/Magic
Mavs/Cavs
Toronto/Utah
Utah/Celtics
Lakers/Magic
Lakers/Detroit
Boston/Spurs

........possibilities are awesome

[MajicMan]

Mavs> Suns and Rockets right now, you clearly are unfamiliar with Dallas' complete and utter ownage of Houston the last three years. If we get a decent backup C for Dampier, we're no worse than Boston. Sorry, take off your hater glasses for just a second. We have an outside shot at a title right now, and if we get the backup C we need after Diop's departure, we have as good a shot as anybody.
You have zero chance of getting past the Spurs or Lakers so what do you mean you are title contenders? I'll put you ahead of the Rockets, Jazz, and Hornets in the West if that makes you happy. You still can't beat Boston or Detroit if somehow the Lakers and Spurs drop out. Picking up Magloire doesn't put you on par with Boston. That just makes you possibly third best behind the Spurs and Lakers in the West but I'll give you a generous 5th overall although I'm doing it just to amuse you.

[Findog]

You have zero chance of getting past the Spurs or Lakers so what do you mean you are title contenders?

Zero chance? Really? Aww, you're hurting my fweewings Laker troll.


but I'll give you a generous 5th overall although I'm doing it just to amuse you.


Dammit! And all this time I've been coveting #1 in "MajicMan's" Power Rankings Poll.

[LakerMagic]

I don't know, I think the Mavs will be a factor playoff time, after Kidd is acclimated. I don't put much stock into what happened "last season" or in "previous seasons" thats why the game is played. New Year, new chance.

[Matchman]

Mavs> Suns and Rockets right now, you clearly are unfamiliar with Dallas' complete and utter ownage of Houston the last three years. If we get a decent backup C for Dampier, we're no worse than Boston. Sorry, take off your hater glasses for just a second. We have an outside shot at a title right now, and if we get the backup C we need after Diop's departure, we have as good a shot as anybody.

your compete and utter ownage of houston just ended when u trade away Devin Harris, one of the rocket killers on ur team. My Rockets has totally dominated Kidd ever since Yao and TMac joined the rockets. and i cant imagine u are counting on Dampier or Bass to stop Yao :lol

the OP got the rankings right except the top 2 spots and Cavs does not belong in there.

[MajicMan]

Zero chance? Really? Aww, you're hurting my fweewings Laker troll.



Dammit! And all this time I've been coveting #1 in "MajicMan's" Power Rankings Poll.
I think you forget Dirk (most people call him "Skirt") is a wuss bag with two epic choke jobs under his belt, "Skirt" I mean. Dampier is a bum and you have no front line. Do you expect to somehow get past the Spurs front line or the Lakers front line? Kobe by himself has owned the Mavs during the regular season and that was with Kwame Brown and Smush Parker. Keep on dreamin Mavs have an outside chance.

[Findog]

I don't know, I think the Mavs will be a factor playoff time, after Kidd is acclimated. I don't put much stock into what happened "last season" or in "previous seasons" thats why the game is played. New Year, new chance.

The Mavs have clearly not been going full-out. All of their critics have been screaming about how the regular season doesn't ultimately matter, and they have responded, from Avery limiting his top players minutes early in the season to messing around and not settling on a set rotation. We were humming along until about a month ago when Devin, Stack and then Dampier and Josh all went out with injuries. That East Coast Road Trip with Eddie Jones at SG and JJB at PG is not reflective of a healthy Dallas team come playoff time.

The Lakers and Spurs are playing better than the Mavs RIGHT NOW, but our season doesn't begin until April 20th. I am impressed with the Lakers, but it's folly to say Dallas has zero chance to beat them or San Antonio. I wouldn't lay money in Vegas on the Mavs over San Antonio or Detroit, but I like our chances just as well as Boston or the Lakers.

I love Kelly Dwyer:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/nba_experts/post/Why-the-Mavs-will-be-better-with-or-without?urn=nba,67760


No, the Mavs will be better because they were already a championship-level team to begin with, one that was playing below expectation and limiting the minutes of its best players. That stops, now.

If I were to rank the title contenders, I'd do it this way, no particular order:

First Group: San Antonio and Detroit
Second Group: LA, Dallas and Boston
Third Group: Phoenix, Cleveland, Utah, Houston, New Orleans

Rest of the League: You don't matter

[Findog]

I think you forget Dirk (most people call him "Skirt") is a wuss bag with two epic choke jobs under his belt, "Skirt" I mean. Dampier is a bum and you have no front line. Do you expect to somehow get past the Spurs front line or the Lakers front line? Kobe by himself has owned the Mavs during the regular season and that was with Kwame Brown and Smush Parker. Keep on dreamin Mavs have an outside chance.


:blah :blah :blah :blah Lakers rule :blah :blah :blah :blah Mavs suck :blah :blah :blah :blah :blah :blah Kobe is awesome :blah :blah :blah Mavs are soft chokers

Sorry, you're a troll, the Lakers rule and are #1, no other discussion necessary!

If I want to post third-grade insults, I'll go to a rivals.com messageboard. Now, get the fuck back into the shallow end of the pool and leave the basketball talk to the grownups.

[Findog]

your compete and utter ownage of houston just ended when u trade away Devin Harris, one of the rocket killers on ur team. My Rockets has totally dominated Kidd ever since Yao and TMac joined the rockets. and i cant imagine u are counting on Dampier or Bass to stop Yao :lol

the OP got the rankings right except the top 2 spots and Cavs does not belong in there.

We still have Terry, Dirk, Stack and Josh Howard, all Rockets killers. Sorry, but Devin Harris has been elevated into Oscar Robertson by delusional Spurs and Rockets fans.

[MajicMan]

:blah :blah :blah :blah Lakers rule :blah :blah :blah :blah Mavs suck :blah :blah :blah :blah :blah :blah Kobe is awesome :blah :blah :blah Mavs are soft chokers

Sorry, you're a troll, the Lakers rule and are #1, no other discussion necessary!

If I want to post third-grade insults, I'll go to a rivals.com messageboard. Now, get the fuck back into the shallow end of the pool and leave the basketball talk to the grownups.
That's the rep he's earned in this league and even choked in the all star game. What do you mean insults? Are you disputing the choker factor?

[Findog]

That's the rep he's earned in this league and even choked in the all star game. What do you mean insults? Are you disputing the choker factor?

All-Star Game?

Why am I replying to you? How old are you?

[Findog]

Dirk as a soft pussy choker is a woefully one-sided picture of him as a player. Calling him a closer and denying he came up short against Golden State would be at the other end of the spectrum, but the truth is in between. Do some research, pay attention to the NBA, get your homer lips off the Lakers cock sometime and you might learn something.

[Findog]

Nobody ever brings up that shitty series he had against Houston three years ago. He was far worse in that series than he was against Miami or Golden State, but nobody remembers it because Dallas won. Just like nobody remembers that tough runner he hit over Shaq in overtime of Game Five against Miami, or that 29 points and 15 rebounds he had in Game Six when the Heat won the title. Dirk was clutch in the last two games of the Finals, but he's a choker. He put San Antonio and Phoenix away with clutch play, but he's a choker. His teams are 5-0 in Game Sevens, he came up big in four of those games, but he's a choker.

If I'm not allowed to gloss over his play against Golden State, you can't ignore the times he's come up huge.

[Tradition]

Avery would shit himself in a playoff series with Phil Jackson after the first mindgame test.

Kobe will rape the Mavs weak ass perimeter D worse than Wade/Baron did. He will get any basket he wants anytime he wants. The Mavs will be forced to throw double and triple teams at Kobe while having Bynum/Gasol under the hoop and Fisher/Sasha/Walton/Vlad/Farmar will be WIDE WIDE WIDE WIDE OPEN from the 3 point line. So many shooters are going to be open for the Lakers that it wont even be fair. Meanwhile Bynum/Gasol/Turiaf/Odom will have their shares of uncontested dunks and layups. Man what a fun ass series that would be for the Lakers. :hungry: :hungry:

[mavsfan1000]

That's the rep he's earned in this league and even choked in the all star game. What do you mean insults? Are you disputing the choker factor?
Dirk was a clutch player when Nash was on his team. It wasn't until Dirk had top play with Terry as point guard that he found the playoffs much more dificult. Teams were sitting on Avery's plays making Dirk having to work hard for his points. Kidd I expect will be able to fix that and now Dallas has good defense to go with it a real point guard.

[LakerMagic]

Avery would shit himself in a playoff series with Phil Jackson after the first mindgame test.

Kobe will rape the Mavs weak ass perimeter D worse than Wade/Baron did. He will get any basket he wants anytime he wants. The Mavs will be forced to throw double and triple teams at Kobe while having Bynum/Gasol under the hoop and Fisher/Sasha/Walton/Vlad/Farmar will be WIDE WIDE WIDE WIDE OPEN from the 3 point line. So many shooters are going to be open for the Lakers that it wont even be fair. Meanwhile Bynum/Gasol/Turiaf/Odom will have their shares of uncontested dunks and layups. Man what a fun ass series that would be for the Lakers. :hungry: :hungry:

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[mavsfan1000]

Avery would shit himself in a playoff series with Phil Jackson after the first mindgame test.

Kobe will rape the Mavs weak ass perimeter D worse than Wade/Baron did. He will get any basket he wants anytime he wants. The Mavs will be forced to throw double and triple teams at Kobe while having Bynum/Gasol under the hoop and Fisher/Sasha/Walton/Vlad/Farmar will be WIDE WIDE WIDE WIDE OPEN from the 3 point line. So many shooters are going to be open for the Lakers that it wont even be fair. Meanwhile Bynum/Gasol/Turiaf/Odom will have their shares of uncontested dunks and layups. Man what a fun ass series that would be for the Lakers. :hungry: :hungry:
Yet the Mavs have been able to beat the Lakers lately. Lakers have no real point guard so it will be more of an isolation game. Dallas will have more fluid offense and the Lakers having no true point guard and suck on defense. Those 2 things will be their downfall.

[Tradition]

Yet the Mavs have been able to beat the Lakers lately. Laters have no real point guard so it will be more of an isolation game. Dallas will have more fluid offense and the Lakers having no true point guard and suck on defense. Those 2 things will be their downfall.

Yeah you only have played us like how many times....once? Bynum didnt even play that game and Gasol wasnt on the team. Much different Laker team now. Kobe has help now. We have the best coach ever at the helm. Mavs perimeter D blows and they are easy to frusterate. When Bynum comes back the D will be alot better. Farmar/Fisher is more than enough at the pg position. We didnt have a true pg during our 3 peat either. Our frontline will control the boards and protect the hoop. It is going to be fun to watch Phil mindfucking Avery to death.

[Findog]

Dallas and the Lakers would be an entertaining series. Mismatches on both ends. I assume Kobe would actually end up guarding Dirk, because any time in the past that Odom or Gasol has attempted to do it, Dirk has kicked their teeth in. And Kidd or Howard would guard Kobe in crunchtime as well. The key with Kobe as always is to force him to score his points as inefficiently as possible, and try to goad him into taking the scoring load all on himself at the expense of distributing. With the supporting cast he's got this year, that hasn't been necessary.

If I'm Avery, I gear my defense to stopping, or actually mitigating Kobe, since you can't stop him. Golden State geared their defense to denying Dirk and forcing his teammates to knock down open shots that resulted from the double and triple teams. They couldn't do it. If I'm Dallas, I take my chances with Gasol, Fisher, Odom and Bynum beating me rather than Kobe.

[mavsfan1000]

Yeah you only have played us like how many times....once? Bynum didnt even play that game and Gasol wasnt on the team. Much different Laker team now. Kobe has help now. We have the best coach ever at the helm. Mavs perimeter D blows and they are easy to frusterate. When Bynum comes back the D will be alot better. Farmar/Fisher is more than enough at the pg position. We didnt have a true pg during our 3 peat either. Our frontline will control the boards and protect the hoop. It is going to be fun to watch Phil mindfucking Avery to death.
The Lakers were good defensively during that 3 peat. Gasol is a softy though. Dirk and Howard are both going to go off with Kidd's help. Don't forget the improved Terry with Kidd as well. I'd say Kidd would do just as good as anyone can do on Kobe. I could be wrong.

[bobbyjoe]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the Rockets win against New Orleans was the only win against a legitimately elite team in the league during their win streak. The streak is impressive nonetheless, but as mentioned the Blazers had a similar win streak and it was in large part due to a heavy home schedule against mostly bad teams or average teams.

They've also beaten Cleveland twice, San Antonio (this may have been right before the streak, but it was pretty recent), and Golden State...And also Portland twice, including one at Portland right after they were on a sick tear.

Houston is playing as well any team in the L right now. The win at New Orleans was on the road, back to back, and just a complete shallacking against the top seed in the West (at that time of course).

The comparison with the Blazers is not accurate IMO. It was much easier to write off the Blazers given their youth and their schedule was considerably weaker in that time. The Rockets streak is actually 21 out of 24 also if you go back 12 games before the current streak, so that's definitely a longer period of high quality ball than what Portland put together. I believe Detroit was also in that streak?

The Rockets have always had the talent, but just never been able to put it together. But with Scola/Landry, the supporting cast is improved. The wildcard is Alston, who's playing way better than his mediocre career self for the past several weeks. If they get production out of Bobby Jackson (questionable) they've upgraded a weakness in perimeter shooting. They may miss Bonzi though.

The other team being ignored here is certainly Utah. I believe LA, SA, Utah, and Houston are the cream of the crop in the West right now in terms of who is really playing the best. The Mavs are just way too soft in the interior, but I dont see any big weaknesses on the top 4 teams I mentioned. The Suns will have to be thrown in as well if they get used to playing with Shaq fairly quickly...

I dont see many weaknesses on the Jazz post-Korver. They have a top 3 PG, the best offensive big man in the game right now, a pure shooter in Korver, and some damn good role players. AK47 is playing much better than the timid, passive player of last year. Their only weakness is lack of a great interior post defender. But they somewhat compensate for this by playing incredibly physical (as all Sloan teams do). In fact, I think Utah may have the best record in the NBA post-Korver trade?! Definitely a title contender.

[dieman8686]

I will ignore all this talk about rankings over other teams, but I will wait anxiously for the above teams to play each other. All this talk just made me mark down a date for the Spurs and the LAkers game against Dallas. I can't see any any of the above teams being better untill they maintain a constant :ihit- :dizzy - :elephant against the top tiered teams( Mostly just talking about the West for right now)
More like shut your pie holes about speculation of one team owning the other, while not evening seeing them play.

[endrity]

As bas as Avery has been at times, he coached his best series against Pop. And while I am the first to admit that PJax is the best coach of all time he was beaten twice by D'Antoni, with an inferior team I admit. There is only so much coaches can do.

To anyone who thinks Gasol can counter Dirk go look at 06 playoffs, or the times they have met in international competion where Gasol with a MUCH BETTER team (Spain) has been defeated by a team of amateurs and Dirk (Germany, and they really unbeliably bad beyond Dirk). And Kidd will eat Fisher and Farmar alive.
Devin Harris has become extremely overrated around here, while Dampier is very underrated. Anyone, ANYONE, that watches the Mavs games understand how he changed their defense. I don't think Bynum does much against him to be honest. Diop got the rep as the best defender for 5 good minutes against Duncan in 06, while Dampier was the one that wore him out throughout the series.

And Dirk is no more of a choker than Kobe in 04. Seriously anyone that says that Dirk choked in the 06 Finals watched the highlights only. He started a little slow, but he was rolling by the end of the series, just like in the SA series, while also being hacked frequently by Haslem. There is one reason why the Heat won, and even NBA players and coaches have come out and admitted it. I mean PJax basically said Wade's career is a gift from the refs, so I shouldn't add anymore to it.
And while Dirk should get some of the blame for GS, most Mavs followers have put the blame squarely on Avery's shoulders for that. Dirk was tripple teamed at times, and yet there was no movement at all on offense. He went small, did not attack GS in transition where they were very vulnerable. Jet and Stack also played about as bas as they could.

[BUMP]

the only two teams that i think the Mavs cant beat in a series are the Spurs and Suns. i feel confident about Boston and Detroit. we are 1-1 vs Detroit this year. we lost a very close game in Boston that couldve gone either way. until the Lakers beat us this year i wont say that we cant beat them. we went 4-0 vs them last year too. we can take Hornets, Rockets, and Nuggets in a series. Utah would be a very tough series that would probably go seven games.

no comment on Golden State :lol

[gmartin02]

If it weren't for the injury woes of the last three weeks, we'd be #1 in the West easy.

How about the Spurs & Lakers injuries? If the Lakers & Spurs didn't have injuries the last 4 weeks no other teams would be close. This is like saying "if the sun didn't come up we would all die of frostbite".

It doesn't matter anyway - when the playoffs come, Dirk "deer in the headlights" Nowitzki will choke again.

[endrity]

the only two teams that i think the Mavs cant beat in a series are the Spurs and Suns.

We can't beat the Suns??? Have you seen them recently? They took a swing and all signs point to them missing. We could beat them when they had Marion, which to us was as much of a problem as Amare. Did you see how Kobe went to the basket as if he was talking a walking in the park against them.

And we have yet to face the Spurs. Most knowledgable Mavs fans know that Diop played 5 good minutes on Ducan in 06, but Damp was more important. We'll see how Kidd v. Parker pans out but we beat them in 06 when it seemed like they had the advantage on us, and we can certainly beat them. I will tell you this, Dirk, Jet, Stack, and Josh don't fear the Spurs at all and actually play with a confidence against them that I would like to see against other teams. They are probably the only team in the league that take the court with that attitude against the Spurs. The mavs bring their A game against the Spurs so I am confident about them.

[Findog]

It doesn't matter anyway - when the playoffs come, Dirk "deer in the headlights" Nowitzki will choke again.

Just like Kobe will quit on his team when they need him the most.

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At least Dirk has made it out of the first round without a dominant big man beside him.

[gmartin02]

Just like Kobe will quit on his team when they need him the most.

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At least Dirk has made it out of the first round without a dominant big man beside him.

Last time I checked Kobe was still on the Lakers...Dirk wouldn't have made it out of a paper bag with the (healthy) players the Lakers had surrounding Kobe the last couple of seasons - I'm picturing this "dream" starting lineup and wondering how far they would get in the playoffs:

Dirk Nowitzki
Kawame (no hands) Brown
Smush (cant even play for Miami) Parker
Lamar (good 3rd option) Odom
Maurice Evans

P.S. If Kobe hadn't (stupidly) mouthed off in the off season, Bynum would probably not have been motivated to improve so much in the off season (right after the Kobe comment is when Bynum hired a personal trainer that got him to where he needed to be physically).

[The Franchise]

We still have Terry, Dirk, Stack and Josh Howard, all Rockets killers. Sorry, but Devin Harris has been elevated into Oscar Robertson by delusional Spurs and Rockets fans.I can't talk trash because we have been beaten by the Mavs. We will see what happens in two weeks.Damn I can't wait!!!! :hungry:

[endrity]

Man, when the fuck did Lakers fan become so arrogant. They are making Bill Simmons look like a humble guy. I thought the last 2-3 years taught you something about being likable guys, yet in about two weeks you have become the worst bunch of fans in the league. that's too bad cause I liked the new look Lakers.

Even in their best day, most Spurs fans are still willing to talk basketball. Yet all you wanna do is offend, yes offend, other teams. For all I know the Mavs have a much better track record the last few years, and Dirk has taken his team to the Finals while Kobe can't get out of the first round. Until proven otherwise you might as well shut up.

[Findog]

Last time I checked Kobe was still on the Lakers...Dirk wouldn't have made it out of a paper bag with the (healthy) players the Lakers had surrounding Kobe the last couple of seasons - I'm picturing this "dream" starting lineup and wondering how far they would get in the playoffs:



Say what you will about Dirk, but he wouldn't have quit on his team like a bitch when they absolutely needed him the most. At his worst, he will still give you 19 and 10 on 38% shooting. He won't stop hustling and trying. Nor will you see him show up on youtube bitching about JJ Barea in an Albertson's parking lot.

The Lakers are now legit contenders for sure. But let's hold off on the parade plans until June, mmmkay? If you're salivating over Kobe being "guarded" by Dallas, I absolutely cannot wait for Dirk to own Lamar and Pau again.

[Findog]

Man, when the fuck did Lakers fan become so arrogant.

That's just how they are.* They go from being shit to a legit team, and all of the sudden we should just cancel the rest of the season and hand them the trophy.

* Apologies to Medvedenko and a few others.

[ElNono]

We're still numero 1, even before the Thomas trade.
You Laker bitches want a championship, you have to go through San Antonio.

[Rummpd]

Before all these teams play eachother how do you think these elite teams each team would stack up against eachother. These are my rankings. What are yours?

The Teams:
1)Lakers - I see the Lakers beating each team below :fro
2)Spurs - I see the Spurs beating each team below
3)Pistons - The team to beat in the East
5)Celtics - I'd love to see a Lakers Celtics finals, but Detroit may spoil
4)Mavs - Once Kidd gets use to the team I think they will be competitive
6)Cavs - 2nd best trade after the Gasol trade
7)Hornets - No experience to go far in the playoffs
8) Rockets - McGrady can't carry a team
9)Suns - Bad move, :lmao

Click on link below


Sublime - Lakers got more scoring (so what) but regressed defensively, and in the playoffs defense wins.

Spurs picked up exactly what they needed in K. Thomas, and D. Stoudamire. The road to title goes through champs and by the way they also add Tiago Splitter next year (a heck of lot better defender than the soft Gasol).


Rockets also far more dangerous in playoffs than the LAL as are Jazz. Jazz and Rockets as playing right now would both take LAL and Spurs beat them all in no more than 6.

We don't even have to discuss the Mavs anymore = Kidd improves them against weak teams but will get wasted by Paul, Parker, Iverson, and Davis and then they gave up a fine defensive big in Diop. Don't be fooled by the assist Queen of Kidd, he cannot hit an open shot, and in the playoffs Spurs, Jazz and others will just pack it in against Mavs and watch their shooters choke. Letting go Harris big time dumb long-term.

[Rummpd]

If it weren't for the injury woes of the last three weeks, we'd be #1 in the West easy.

What about the Spurs = Parker, Manu and Duncan all missed sign. time - no excuses for your soft team!

[mavsfan1000]

Sublime - Lakers got more scoring (so what) but regressed defensively, and in the playoffs defense wins.

Spurs picked up exactly what they needed in K. Thomas, and D. Stoudamire. The road to title goes through champs and by the way they also add Tiago Splitter next year (a heck of lot better defender than the soft Gasol).


Rockets also far more dangerous in playoffs than the LAL as are Jazz. Jazz and Rockets as playing right now would both take LAL and Spurs beat them all in no more than 6.

We don't even have to discuss the Mavs anymore = Kidd improves them against weak teams but will get wasted by Paul, Parker, Iverson, and Davis and then they gave up a fine defensive big in Diop. Don't be fooled by the assist Queen of Kidd, he cannot hit an open shot, and in the playoffs Spurs, Jazz and others will just pack it in against Mavs and watch their shooters choke. Letting go Harris big time dumb long-term.
Well I guess I'm fooled. Kidd looks incredible.

[Findog]

What about the Spurs = Parker, Manu and Duncan all missed sign. time - no excuses for your soft team!

Well, since we traded away Oscar Robertson to New Jersey, we have no hope of holding Parker below 80. :rolleyes

[Findog]

Well I guess I'm fooled. Kidd looks incredible.

Mavs are getting lots more points in the paint with Kidd, even Dampier looks like a scorer. What part of "easy baskets" is hard to understand? No more contested jumpers from 18 feet.

The only thing holding us back is another big for whenever Dampier gets into foul trouble. If we sign Mags as expected, we're up there with anybody. All we need is 15-20 minutes and 6 fouls per game. He can still rebound.

[stretch]

Nobody ever brings up that shitty series he had against Houston three years ago. He was far worse in that series than he was against Miami or Golden State, but nobody remembers it because Dallas won. Just like nobody remembers that tough runner he hit over Shaq in overtime of Game Five against Miami, or that 29 points and 15 rebounds he had in Game Six when the Heat won the title. Dirk was clutch in the last two games of the Finals, but he's a choker. He put San Antonio and Phoenix away with clutch play, but he's a choker. His teams are 5-0 in Game Sevens, he came up big in four of those games, but he's a choker.

If I'm not allowed to gloss over his play against Golden State, you can't ignore the times he's come up huge.

Even in the Houston and Phoenix series a couple years ago, even though he didnt shoot the ball well, he still found other ways to be effective, by still driving, getting to the line, and drawing fouls on Yao. He also kicked both team's ass on the boards, and had a lot of hustle plays. Even though he didn't shoot well in those playoffs, i felt that Dirk has shown that he has risen his game to another level, because he began to find more ways to contribute than just scoring, especially when their shot is off, which is what great players do.

IMO, when you truly look at the entire picture, Dirk over the past 3-4 years has accomplished quite a bit considering all he did without a legit star alongside him. He has just had a team full of role players, but not another true star to take some heat off of him, like every other great player has (Shaq/Kobe, Duncan/Robinson/Ginobili, MJ/Pippen, Bird/Parish, Magic/Kareem, etc...)

Now that he finally has a legit star alongside him, let's see how he does. Hopefully he didn't get this star to play with too late... but I have always wondered what he would have done if he could have played alongside someone like Kobe, Shaq, Pippen, etc...

The criticism he recieves is truly unfair. Kobe struggles to get a team of role players into the playoffs and is called the best player in the league and a great leader, etc... while Dirk leads a team of role players to the finals, and to top 4 seeds on a yearly basis, yet people say he can't lead a team. Granted, Dirk's role players have been better than Kobe's, but if Kobe truly is the best player in the NBA and such a great fucking leader, he should be able to have led his team into the playoffs a little easier and be able to help improve the play of his teammates as well, much like Dirk has been able to.

[stretch]

Don't be fooled by the assist Queen of Kidd, he cannot hit an open shot
On the contrary, he hits open shots pretty well. His low percentages often was contributed to the fact that he always had such shitty teams and many times would have the ball thrown to him with a couple seconds left on the clock, forcing him to throw up a low percentage shot.

[LakeShow]

Before all these teams play eachother how do you think these elite teams each team would stack up against eachother. These are my rankings. What are yours?

The Teams:
1)Lakers - I see the Lakers beating each team below :fro
2)Spurs - I see the Spurs beating each team below
3)Pistons - The team to beat in the East
5)Celtics - I'd love to see a Lakers Celtics finals, but Detroit may spoil
4)Mavs - Once Kidd gets use to the team I think they will be competitive
6)Cavs - 2nd best trade after the Gasol trade
7)Hornets - No experience to go far in the playoffs
8) Rockets - McGrady can't carry a team
9)Suns - Bad move, :lmao

Click on link below

I'll just rank the top 2, not sure about the rest but

1. Los Angeles Lakers
2. San Antonio Spurs

http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2008/0220/nba_g_lakers_300.jpg

The Lakers have all the pieces in place to make a serious run at the championship this year.

[stretch]

The Lakers have all the pieces in place to make a serious run at the championship this year.
what about your rockets?

[LakeShow]

what about your rockets?

Right there with the mavs.

[hater]

Lakerfans will be looking like this by the end of the playoffs:
http://www.thelakerssuck.com/images/crying2.jpg

[mavsfan1000]

After hearing all the trash talk from Laker fans, I'm looking forward to seeing them lose. Kobe will start crying on the bench again. :lol

[Killakobe81]

Spurs are the champs until someone beats them and Manu is playing amzing ball kudos ...
But why spur fans is THIS team with age and injuries gonna repeat and the other could not?
Look im a Laker fan obviously ...but i think the Lakers chances are just a bit smaller than the Spurs ...i say spurs have a 25% chance Lakers 20 but can rise if BYNUM regains form ...

[rAm]

I think the Lakers have every right to be feeling good about their team right now.

I live in LA and I am a huge SA fan, and trust me I have always hated on Sasha and Luke more than anyone else in the league. But Luke came into his own last year, and Sasha (I hate to say it) is fitting into his role perfectly (even though he still looks like a little bitch even with his new lame hair-doo). Not to mention Farmar is way legit.

The Lakers are a good 10 players deep and have a 2nd Team that can hang with most teams in the league (they were their starters the past couple years). Now with Gasol thriving in the system, Bynum becoming a beast, and the bench players finally showing the result of Phil Jacksons tutilige they are not to be written off.

I love my Spurs, but being able to watch most of the Lakers games due to being in LA, our main threat is most definitely the Lakers. Not to mention the cold-blooded rivalry that exists between the Spurs and Lakers (fuck you Fisher).

That being said, the Spurs will compete with any team in a 7 game series. When it comes down to playing THE game of basketball, and not thinking about theories or looking at matchups, they know how to play and win important basketball games. They have the defense and veteran mentality to win a series and I hope it comes down to the Jackson Vs. Popovich WCF to write the last chapter in Lakers Vs. Spurs.

[Killakobe81]

THe Mavs will not beat the Lakers ... ill say it right now. THE ONLY team i fear in the post-season are the defending champs ...the MAVS had their chance but they gave it away to the team that has the worst record in the league right now only 1.5 years later ...and followed that collosal choke by getting whupped by a GState team that were handled easily by the Jazz ...I acually like Terry, Dirk and howard and kidd especially ... but i have no faith Dallas will win moe than one series if that ...and i have no fear of dallas ..we win in a series vs. Mavs no doubt!!
Lakers make west conf. finals at least thi year...NBA title in '09 ...

PS If we win this year ...then yall might as well stay home the next 3 years!!!!

[LakeShow]

After hearing all the trash talk from Laker fans, I'm looking forward to seeing them lose. Kobe will start crying on the bench again. :lol

Lakers fans will look like this. Something you wouldn't know anything about!
http://www.nba.com/media/lakers/history_lakers_three.jpg

[LakeShow]

I think the Lakers have every right to be feeling good about their team right now.

I live in LA and I am a huge SA fan, and trust me I have always hated on Sasha and Luke more than anyone else in the league. But Luke came into his own last year, and Sasha (I hate to say it) is fitting into his role perfectly (even though he still looks like a little bitch even with his new lame hair-doo). Not to mention Farmar is way legit.

The Lakers are a good 10 players deep and have a 2nd Team that can hang with most teams in the league (they were their starters the past couple years). Now with Gasol thriving in the system, Bynum becoming a beast, and the bench players finally showing the result of Phil Jacksons tutilige they are not to be written off.

I love my Spurs, but being able to watch most of the Lakers games due to being in LA, our main threat is most definitely the Lakers. Not to mention the cold-blooded rivalry that exists between the Spurs and Lakers (fuck you Fisher).

Yeah, it's just hating on us. The Lakers should and do feel real good about their chances!

[rAm]

Lakers fans will look like this. Something you wouldn't know anything about!
http://www.nba.com/media/lakers/history_lakers_three.jpg

lol is that Rick Fox? worthless

[LakeShow]

lol is that Rick Fox? worthless

Worthless?

[rAm]

Worthless?

cmon its Rick Fox

[LakeShow]

cmon its Rick Fox

I don't get it. The picture was to show the lakers winning trophies. Rick Fox was a valuable member of those championship teams.

[LakerMagic]

cmon its Rick Fox

Rick Fox was a badass back in the day

[rAm]

Cant A Man Just Hate For No Reason


^^ why wont it let me use all caps?^^

[monosylab1k]

Lakers fans will look like this. Something you wouldn't know anything about!
http://www.nba.com/media/lakers/history_lakers_three.jpg
your team hasn't won a championship in over a decade so shut the fuck up.

[LakerMagic]

Yeah, it's just hating on us. The Lakers should and do feel real good about their chances!

I feel great about our chances. We made moves we had to make to be come a contender. You gotta start somewhere.

[LakeShow]

Cant A Man Just Hate For No Reason


^^ why wont it let me use all caps?^^

:lol Might as well, everybody else does!

[LakerMagic]

your team hasn't won a championship in over a decade so shut the fuck up.

Some one is bad at basic math. :lol

[monosylab1k]

Some one is bad at basic math. :lol
Someone obviously doesn't know what the fuck is going on.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/HOU/1995.html
it's been over a decade. either figure out what's going on or don't fucking post.

[LakeShow]

your team hasn't won a championship in over a decade so shut the fuck up.

Let me try to put some sense in that dumb statement. The Lakers havent won in a decade. Hmmm., 2002 was the last title, this is 2008...hmmm,

Decade
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A decade is a set or a group of ten, commonly a period of 10 years in contemporary English, or a period of 10 days in the French revolutionary calendar. The word is derived from the late Latin "decas", from Greek "dekas", from deka. In contemporary English, the word can be used to specify a general period of ten years, for example "The last decade was characterized by the rise of the Internet". A decade may also be a well-defined historical period of ten years in a dating system. In that sense, the first decade of the 20th century indicates a period from January 1, 1901 until December 31, 1910.

ok I label that statement, DUMB!

[monosylab1k]

Let me try to put some sense in that dumb statement. The Lakers havent won in a decade. Hmmm., 2002 was the last title, this is 2008...hmmm,

Decade
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Jump to: navigation, search
For other senses of this word, see decade (disambiguation).
A decade is a set or a group of ten, commonly a period of 10 years in contemporary English, or a period of 10 days in the French revolutionary calendar. The word is derived from the late Latin "decas", from Greek "dekas", from deka. In contemporary English, the word can be used to specify a general period of ten years, for example "The last decade was characterized by the rise of the Internet". A decade may also be a well-defined historical period of ten years in a dating system. In that sense, the first decade of the 20th century indicates a period from January 1, 1901 until December 31, 1910.

ok I label that statement, DUMB!

except that you're a Rockets fan posing as a Lakers fan.

[LakerMagic]

Someone obviously doesn't know what the fuck is going on.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/HOU/1995.html
it's been over a decade. either figure out what's going on or don't fucking post.

2002?????? Thats over a decade ago. Fuckhead. :downspin:

[rAm]

your team hasn't won a championship in over a decade so shut the fuck up.

that was just pure anger at your team coming so far only to lose to the Heat, and then to GS. Thanks for NOT representing the WC.

The Spurs would have finished that series off.

[LakeShow]

I feel great about our chances. We made moves we had to make to be come a contender. You gotta start somewhere.

No doubt! It's not like the Lakers fans are the only people who feel that way. Damn near Every writer and analysts feel the same way too. We have a right to feel that way and it is well warranted!

[monosylab1k]

2002?????? Thats over a decade ago. Fuckhead. :downspin:
1995. He's a Rockets fan. Fuckhead.

[monosylab1k]

No doubt! It's not like the Lakers fans are the only people who feel that way. Damn near Every writer and analysts feel the same way too. We have a right to feel that way and it is well warranted!
Analysts are picking the Rockets?

[rAm]

with all being said, I still feel like Laker fans are the toughest fans to have an un-biased basketball discussion with

[LakerMagic]

1995. He's a Rockets fan. Fuckhead.

you quoted lakeshow

[LakeShow]

Analysts are picking the Rockets?

weaksauce! That all you got! Deal with the lakers being the best and STFU!

[monosylab1k]

you quoted lakeshow
no fucking shit. he's the rockets fan pretending to be a lakers fan you stupid fuck.

[LakeShow]

you quoted lakeshow

They think you can only be a fan of one team because I do like the rockets too! Ignore the lunacy.

[monosylab1k]

weaksauce! That all you got! Deal with the lakers being the best and STFU!
I can deal with the Lakers being the best. Can you deal with pretending to like the Lakers when you're a Rockets fan?

[Findog]

with all being said, I still feel like Laker fans are the toughest fans to have an un-biased basketball discussion with

i'll cosign that.

[LakeShow]

I can deal with the Lakers being the best. Can you deal with pretending to like the Lakers when you're a Rockets fan?

Weak! Just like your team!

[LakerMagic]

They think you can only be a fan of one team because I do like the rockets too! Ignore the lunacy.

What a weak dumbfuck this monoslab is.

[monosylab1k]

Weak! Just like your team!
I just hope you can look T-Mac in his good eye with a clean conscience after this.

[The Franchise]

Someone obviously doesn't know what the fuck is going on.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/HOU/1995.html
it's been over a decade. either figure out what's going on or don't fucking post.
Have the Mavs ever won anything?

[monosylab1k]

Have the Mavs ever won anything?
yeah they've won a lot of basketball games.

[Findog]

Have the Mavs ever won anything?

My standard is, if you didn't witness it, you can't claim it. We had a warriors fan on here that used to resort to title smack because Golden State won it all in 1975.

[LakeShow]

What a weak dumbfuck this monoslab is.

I'll cosign that! :toast

[monosylab1k]

My standard is, if you didn't witness it, you can't claim it. We had a warriors fan on here that used to resort to title smack because Golden State won it all in 1975.
There's no way The Franchise was more than 2 years old the last time Houston won a title.

[The Franchise]

yeah they've won a lot of basketball games.
How many championships?

[LakerMagic]

yeah they've won a lot of basketball games.

Nothing else huh? Sucks to be you :donkey

[monosylab1k]

How many championships?
none in the last decade just like the Rockets.

[Findog]

As far as I'm concerned, only the Spurs and Pistons have any right to resort to title smack. The Heat have been dismantled, and the Shaq/Kobe Lakers are no more. If the Lakers win a title this spring, put them in that group, but in the meantime, only two fanbases have the right to title smack.

[The Franchise]

If your going to attack Houston it would help to win a ONE title first. We haven't won in over ten years true, but we have won. I can't recall Dallas ever hoisting a trophy.

[rAm]

Lets bring this topic back on the tracks...

Laker Fans suck!

[LakeShow]

As far as I'm concerned, only the Spurs and Pistons have any right to resort to title smack. The Heat have been dismantled, and the Shaq/Kobe Lakers are no more. If the Lakers win a title this spring, put them in that group, but in the meantime, only two fanbases have the right to title smack.

Let me ask you something the Lakers have 3 titles in this decade. 3 titles in the last 8 years. Why arent they worthy?

[The Franchise]

As far as I'm concerned, only the Spurs and Pistons have any right to resort to title smack. The Heat have been dismantled, and the Shaq/Kobe Lakers are no more. If the Lakers win a title this spring, put them in that group, but in the meantime, only two fanbases have the right to title smack.
Your right but i think it is only one the current Champs.

[monosylab1k]

If your going to attack Houston it would help to win a ONE title first. We haven't won in over ten years true, but we have won. I can't recall Dallas ever hoisting a trophy.
So Bulls fans can talk shit about trophies?

[monosylab1k]

I'm going the Lakeshow route, I'm now a Bulls fan!

[stretch]

What a weak dumbfuck this monoslab is.
You obviously don't know what you are talking about. Lakeshow is a rockets fan that used to post on a Mavs forum with me and mono. Then he decided to come here and fake as a Lakers fan to talk shit to Spurs fans (lame as hell that he has to change his team just to "talk shit") only he got his ass owned in the process and then got banned. I initially came to mess around too, only i still remained a Mavs fan (didn't bail on my team like some faggot here), and eventually decided to start posting here, as this board has a lot more traffic and is more fun than other boards.

[LakeShow]

I'm going the Lakeshow route, I'm now a Bulls fan!

I don't blame you, like Lakermagic said, must suck to be a mavs fan!

[Findog]

Let me ask you something the Lakers have 3 titles in this decade. 3 titles in the last 8 years. Why arent they worthy?

Because the Pistons have retained the team that won a title and remained at a championship level, the Spurs have as well. The Lakers didn't. They have undergone a resurgence this year, but they have yet to prove they can win a title with their current group. I'm not saying they won't, outside of San Antonio and Detroit, they have as good a shot as anybody, but they broke up the team that won three titles in a row.

Obviously the Lakers have a more storied franchise than Dallas, and most observers agree that the Lakers are slightly better than the Mavericks right now. But we still need to play the games later this spring.

[The Franchise]

Because the Pistons have retained the team that won a title and remained at a championship level, the Spurs have as well. The Lakers didn't. They have undergone a resurgence this year, but they have yet to prove they can win a title with their current group. I'm not saying they won't, outside of San Antonio and Detroit, they have as good a shot as anybody, but they broke up the team that won three titles in a row.

Obviously the Lakers have a more storied franchise than Dallas, and most observers agree that the Lakers are slightly better than the Mavericks right now. But we still need to play the games later this spring.
Findog: logic over lunacy. :toast

[LakeShow]

Because the Pistons have retained the team that won a title and remained at a championship level, the Spurs have as well. The Lakers didn't. They have undergone a resurgence this year, but they have yet to prove they can win a title with their current group. I'm not saying they won't, outside of San Antonio and Detroit, they have as good a shot as anybody, but they broke up the team that won three titles in a row.

Obviously the Lakers have a more storied franchise than Dallas, and most observers agree that the Lakers are slightly better than the Mavericks right now. But we still need to play the games later this spring.

Ok, I agree with that. The Lakers do have to still play the game but what I don't understand is that they are at the top of the WC right now and have been playing dominating ball. Why Lakers fans cant hope and feel good about their chances is what I don't understand. They have to start somewhere and we think this may be the season.

[monosylab1k]

Why Lakers fans cant hope and feel good about their chances is what I don't understand.
They can. You can't - you're not a Lakers fan.

[monosylab1k]

Six Rings Bitch!

[Findog]

Ok, I agree with that. The Lakers do have to still play the game but what I don't understand is that they are at the top of the WC right now and have been playing dominating ball. Why Lakers fans cant hope and feel good about their chances is what I don't understand. They have to start somewhere and we think this may be the season.

I think there are a lot of Laker fans that give the rest a bad name. You have to admit the Lakers fanbase is full of frontrunning bandwagoners not willing to stick around for the bad times, few as they are for that franchise.

[LakeShow]

Nothing else huh? Sucks to be you :donkey

Don't pay any attention to Inchworm (stretch) he has PENIS-ENVY! :lol

[monosylab1k]

The Bulls are about to stomp the Mavs tonight! 6 > 0 therefore Bulls win! I'm gonna wear my Craig Hodges throwback to the game!

[ElNono]

I actually don't have a problem with the Faker fans bringing up their titles. They won them fair and square.
What makes them look retarded is the claims of superiority based on a 20 years old center that happened to have a good stretch of regular season games and Gaysol who has been a failure as a franchise player, and is the premier softy post player in the league.
But hey, the flipside is that when the playoffs come around and they get their asses handed to them, they'll go away.

[monosylab1k]

Bulls got the best trade this year! Six rings!

[Findog]

The Bulls are about to stomp the Mavs tonight! 6 > 0 therefore Bulls win!

haha, you have to keep that avatar and team for a while, so people will be like "WTF?"

[monosylab1k]

BULLS > LAKERS

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991_NBA_Finals

EAT THAT FAKERS FANS!

[gmartin02]

Because the Pistons have retained the team that won a title and remained at a championship level, the Spurs have as well. The Lakers didn't. They have undergone a resurgence this year, but they have yet to prove they can win a title with their current group. I'm not saying they won't, outside of San Antonio and Detroit, they have as good a shot as anybody, but they broke up the team that won three titles in a row.

Obviously the Lakers have a more storied franchise than Dallas, and most observers agree that the Lakers are slightly better than the Mavericks right now. But we still need to play the games later this spring.

As a die hard Lakers fan, I agree - the Spurs are still the team to beat in the west (as long as they stay healthy) - Lakers fans should not be counting on anything until Bynum is back in the lineup and it is proven he can play well with Gason & Odom - also, the team in its present form has only been together a short time

That being said, if Bynum does come back strong and can integrate with the rest the Lakers can be a very scary team - perhaps this year, and watch out next year once they get more playing experience together...

What Laker fans are really thinking (if you take away all of the smack talk) is that the pain from the Shaq trade is finally wearing off and the future finally looks very bright and it is exciting to watch them play well again (Kobe always worked harder than Shaq after '02, and the declining Shaq was the one who needed to be traded if they couldn't get along).

[LakeShow]

I think there are a lot of Laker fans that give the rest a bad name. You have to admit the Lakers fanbase is full of frontrunning bandwagoners not willing to stick around for the bad times, few as they are for that franchise.

I do agree that the bandwagon has filled up, which is always the case in LakerLand when the lakers are on top. The mavs dealt with the same thing when they were on top but for those of us who went thru the bad times with this lakers team, i don't see anything wrong with feeling good about this team. I do see where you're coming from though.

[monosylab1k]

WZgjxZNxtIw

[Findog]

Laker fans have every right to feel good about their team of course. They have a good young core and a HOF coach. It's just douchebags like MajicMan that piss me off, that can't rep their team without shitting on others.

[gmartin02]

I do agree that the bandwagon has filled up, which is always the case in LakerLand when the lakers are on top. The mavs dealt with the same thing when they were on top but for those of us who went thru the bad times with this lakers team, i don't see anything wrong with feeling good about this team. I do see where you're coming from though.

I know the feeling - I watched almost every single Laker game through the post Magic Johnson era (including Rambis as coach, Del Harris as coach, the infamous Cedric Ceballos "family emergency no show" trip to Lake Havasu in the middle of the season, Magic as coach, Magic comeback, the Dennis Rodman experiment, etc.), the post Shaq era (I absolutely cold not stand Smush Parker - it was like playing 4 on 5 in the second half of every game) and somehow I am still a HUGE fan - I'm just glad the west is so exciting this year.

[rAm]

Laker fans have every right to feel good about their team of course. They have a good young core and a HOF coach. It's just douchebags like MajicMan that piss me off, that can't rep their team without shitting on others.

Laker Fans are tough to get along with

[LakeShow]

Laker fans have every right to feel good about their team of course. They have a good young core and a HOF coach. It's just douchebags like MajicMan that piss me off, that can't rep their team without shitting on others.

We have our concerns also and I would be the first to admit it. We definitely need Bynum. It scares the Shit out of me to go to the playoffs without him watching Gasol on defense. Without Bynum, i would not feel as confident as I do. Knowing that he will be back next month. I like our chances.

[LakeShow]

I know the feeling - I watched almost every single Laker game through the post Magic Johnson era (including Rambis as coach, Del Harris as coach, the infamous Cedric Ceballos "family emergency no show" trip to Lake Havasu in the middle of the season, Magic as coach, Magic comeback, the Dennis Rodman experiment, etc.), the post Shaq era (I absolutely cold not stand Smush Parker - it was like playing 4 on 5 in the second half of every game) and somehow I am still a HUGE fan - I'm just glad the west is so exciting this year.

No doubt, we went thru some very tough times. After Magic was the toughest for me. We just flat out sucked!

Where is Smush Parker? :lol

I have to say another tough moment for me as a Lakers fans was to actually like and accept Karl Malone on the lakers in 2004. I could not stand that guy but I tolerated him because he was a lakers.

[LakeShow]

Laker Fans are tough to get along with

Every fan base has those kind of fans. Even the Spurs.

[stretch]

Don't pay any attention to Inchworm (stretch) he has PENIS-ENVY! :lol
I'm still curious as to why you are so obsessed with my penis, fag.

[LakeShow]

I'm still curious as to why you are so obsessed with my lack of penis, fag.

Fixed.

I feel sorry for you. Must suck to be you!

[monosylab1k]

Fixed.

I feel sorry for you. Must suck to be you!
So we're to assume you like the presence of cocks?

[LakeShow]

So we're to assume you like the presence of cocks?


:lol Assume that I have one!

Alright last post on this subject with the douchbags. Talking ball now.

[monosylab1k]

:lol Assume that I have one!
Unlike you, I'm not concerned with other people's dicks.

[monosylab1k]

Talking ball now.
why don't you talk about your favorite team and their 12 game winning streak?

[stretch]

:lol Assume that I have one!

Alright last post on this subject with the douchbags. Talking ball now.
Uhm, you're the one who started talking about my dick for the 400th time.

[stretch]

Fixed.

I feel sorry for you. Must suck to be you!
I'm still wondering what makes you so convinced that I have a small penis? There is no explanation other than the fact that you are obsessed with dicks.

[endrity]

Laker fans have every right in the world to be optimistic about now and the future.

Laker fans have absolutely no right to be the dumbass arrogants they are being, with which you can't have a basketball discussion with. Putting together a nice string of victories guarantees you nothing in the playoffs.

Yes the Lakers have a storied franchise, but for all I know the current group has yet to achieve anything important.

[mavsfan1000]

16 rings bitches. Celtics 16 rings Lakers 9. :lol

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16 rings bitches. Celtics 16 rings Lakers 9. :lol
I thought the Lakers have 14.

[mavsfan1000]

I thought the Lakers have 14.
5 of them were when they were in Minneapolis.