Asante Samuels Signs with Eagles

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Per ESPNEWS.

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interesting. are they planning on dealing Brown or Sheppard then?

[florige]

Man I wanted the Ravens to try and get him..... :pctoss

[djohn14]

Im just happy he's away from NE.

[midgetonadonkey]

He's way overrated.

[djohn14]

He's way overrated.
Hang on their bud...No, he's not a Champ Bailey, but Asante is a very good CB.

[monosylab1k]

This means Sheppard is gone....they already refused to rework his deal and are looking to trade him.

[monosylab1k]

He's way overrated.
At the price he's now getting paid, yeah he is. But Asante is a damn good CB, one of the best in the league.

[Evan]

"Free agent CB reportedly inks six-year deal for $60M"

That's insane money for him. He's awesome but that's just insane cash. They have so much wrapped up now in two players.

As a Cowboy fan I approve this deal for what it will do in the long run.

[K-State Spur]

he's a gambler who could (although not probable) bust in a different system.

[J.T.]

He's way overrated.

Wow, me and Midge agree with each other for once.

Seriously, with that kind of coin Asante should get with Ocho Cinco and work up some TD celebrations because he's going to need a few to make that contract look worth it.

[scott]

The Dallas Morning News Cowboys Blog is saying Eagles and Cards are working a deal to Swap Fitzgerald for Sheppard, FWIW...

http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2008/02/rumors-swirling.html

[Evan]

That would be an incredible deal for Philly but wow...they are rolling through cap space fast if they do this.

More than anything they need to do something about their QB situation.

[yavozerb]

This is bad news for cowboy fans..A shut down corner on a defense who blitzes everydown is actually bad news for everyone!! He may be overated at this at this price, but he is still one of top 5 corners in the league...

[peewee's lovechild]

He's way overrated.

True.

He got raped in the playoffs and in the Super Bowl.

I wouldn't be paying for that.

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More than anything they need to do something about their QB situation.
If McNabb is healthy, he is still one of the best QB's in the NFL. Getting Fitz will help him tremendously, now that he will have an amazing and big possesion reciever that doesnt drop anything (Fitzgerald), a guy who is BLAZING fast (Kevin Curtis), and several other recievers that are perfect 3rd and 4th options in Reggie Brown (all around ability), Hank Baskett (big as fuck), Greg Lewis (blazer), and Jeremy Avant (possesion and smarts). And you can't forget about the little guy catching passes out of the backfield (Westbrook). Their offense will be quite good with the addition of Fitz, who is perfect for McNabb's style of play.

[Evan]

This is bad news for cowboy fans..A shut down corner on a defense who blitzes everydown is actually bad news for everyone!! He may be overated at this at this price, but he is still one of top 5 corners in the league...

I disagree. Game to game this may be a mess at times but in the long run such silly contracts will hurt them. I clap my hands in glee every time the Redskins sign someone. Such a signing should only be for "one or two" players away type teams. Phili is not that. I would be shitting my pants if the Giants had signed him.

Also I would be very concerned that anyone on the Pats is a "Bill Belichick" system player so there is a huge red flag.

[Evan]

If McNabb is healthy, he is still one of the best QB's in the NFL. .

I just don't see it. I follow the Eagles closely and I think he is a decent QB who needs players around him to do well.

Thats not a criticism. Just the way it is.

I think he is worn out....some players simply have a short window to excel in and I think his time has passed. The guy hasn't played a full season since 03 (I think) and every year it's "If he is healthy" and when he goes into training camp he will as usual say "I have never felt better in my career" and as usual ESPN and CNNSI will talk about what a huge threat they are and as usual, they will fall short.

[T Park]

Yeah if the Eagles add Fitzgerald, and the addition of Samuels, IMO makes them one of the top teams in the NFC.

All dependent on the health of McNabb though, and thats always a crapshoot. If the Eagles were smart they'd go and grab a solid QB who wouldn't suck horribly when played.

[monosylab1k]

I just don't see it. I follow the Eagles closely and I think he is a decent QB who needs players around him to do well.

Thats not a criticism. Just the way it is.

I think he is worn out....some players simply have a short window to excel in and I think his time has passed. The guy hasn't played a full season since 03 (I think) and every year it's "If he is healthy" and when he goes into training camp he will as usual say "I have never felt better in my career" and as usual ESPN and CNNSI will talk about what a huge threat they are and as usual, they will fall short.
Funny how after one good season Cowboy Fan will immediately write off Philly. That team has owned you and the NFC East for the better part of a decade. Even with injuries to McNabb, they're always a Super Bowl threat in the NFC. This year is no different.

Try winning one playoff game before writing off the most consistent team in the NFC East of the past decade.

[monosylab1k]

I just don't see it. I follow the Eagles closely and I think he is a decent QB who needs players around him to do well.

Thats not a criticism. Just the way it is.
He made it to 3 NFC Championship games with minimal offensive talent surrounding him.

And he made it to the Super Bowl with Terrell Owens, rather than choking it in his first playoff game two years in a row. If McNabb is a "decent QB who needs players around him", then what do you call Tony Romo?

[Evan]

Funny how after one good season Cowboy Fan will immediately write off Philly. That team has owned you and the NFC East for the better part of a decade. Even with injuries to McNabb, they're always a Super Bowl threat in the NFC. This year is no different.

Try winning one playoff game before writing off the most consistent team in the NFC East of the past decade.

lol...

simmer down dere tonto.

They had their chance and blew it over and over again. That has nothing to do with the Cowboys.

Every season they get hyped up and blow it. Cowboys new era has been for 2 years and they have blown it twice. If they do it again next year I will compare them to the Eagles, I am a Cowboy fan but I am realistic. I don't defend them blindly...I criticize the Cowboys more than most fans.

I am much more concerned about the Giants than the Cowboys. Eli seems to have his head on straight and McNabb will probably start 12 games next year.The Giants aren't getting enough respect and the Eagles, as usual, get too much.

Remember a month or so ago when their were rumors that Phili was going to go after Derek Anderson and McNabb was going to move teams? (I think to the Ravens) then I was worried about Phili...


:wakeup

[monosylab1k]

The Giants aren't getting enough respect and the Eagles, as usual, get too much.

Too much? They've only been the most consistent team in the NFC East for a decade now. McNabb has only been the most consistently good QB in the NFC East for a decade now. They've been to 4 NFC Championship Games and a Super Bowl. That's "blowing it"? Again, how about if Cowboy Fan's team wins one fucking playoff game before talking shit about a team that has owned their candy asses for years now.

And the Cowboys era started when the "savior" Bill Parcells stepped foot in Valley Ranch. Spin that Cowboy Fan "rebuilding" crap all you want, but this team was expected to win as soon as Parcells got there, and they've been a miserable failure from then all the way until now.

The Eagles & Giants are the teams to beat in the NFC East until the Cowboys can prove with just ONE playoff victory that they belong in the same league as those two teams.

[Evan]

Why do you keep bringing up the Cowboys?

[monosylab1k]

Why do you keep bringing up the Cowboys?
Don't see how Cowboy Fan can describe the most successful team in their division over the past decade as a team that "blows it" when they've been to 4 NFC Championship Games and a Super Bowl and your team hasn't won a playoff game in over 10 years.

[Evan]

That has nothing to do with it....so everyone who has an opinion about a team has to have their own rooting interest meet qualifiers?

Nothing matters but championships. That's what it's all bout.

And that's the NY Giants preceded by the Dallas Cowboys. What the Eagles did means nothing because they didn't win.

[J.T.]

lol lmao the cowboys in the past decade, .000 in playoffs

peyton manning, .500 in playoffs, 2 AFC title games, 1 Super Bowl victory

:lmao

[Evan]

lol lmao the cowboys in the past decade, .000 in playoffs

peyton manning, .500 in playoffs, 2 AFC title games, 1 Super Bowl victory

:lmao

100% agree! All that matters is championships.

Nothing else matters but winning the biggest prize.

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I just don't see it. I follow the Eagles closely and I think he is a decent QB who needs players around him to do well.

How does 4 NFC championship appearances and a SB appearance with your best playoff recievers being Todd Pinkston and James Thrash mean that he is a decent QB that needs good players? You're fucking insane. Until recently, with Brian Westbrook's breaking out as a top RB in the league, he has NEVER had a solid running game, and with the exception of TO, he has NEVER had a good recieving core. And he did nothing but dominate his division year after year.

McNabb is an amazing QB. I would love to see what he could have done with an offensive core consisting of guys like Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne. Or how about Chad Johnson and TJ Whosyourmamma? Torry Holt and Issac Bruce? T.O. alone, helped him pretty much dominate the NFC (even though he already had for several years prior without him)

You obviously are full of shit when saying you follow the Eagles closely.

[Tradition]

How does 4 NFC championship appearances and a SB appearance with your best playoff recievers being Todd Pinkston and James Thrash mean that he is a decent QB that needs good players? You're fucking insane. Until recently, with Brian Westbrook's breaking out as a top RB in the league, he has NEVER had a solid running game, and with the exception of TO, he has NEVER had a good recieving core. And he did nothing but dominate his division year after year.

McNabb is an amazing QB. I would love to see what he could have done with an offensive core consisting of guys like Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne. Or how about Chad Johnson and TJ Whosyourmamma? Torry Holt and Issac Bruce? T.O. alone, helped him pretty much dominate the NFC (even though he already had for several years prior without him)

You obviously are full of shit when saying you follow the Eagles closely.



Mcnabb deserves better wideouts. It is unfair with how much bs he gets. Westbrook is fucking underrated and a badass. Not to mention what an unselfish player. That slide at the 1 in the cowboy game was something else.

[John Patrick]

Asante wil help them in the secondary, but if they do keep Sheppard, then thats easily the best group of DBs in the NFC. But if I were them i'd rather go with a proven reciever like Fitzgerald rather than some rookie who'll take a few seasons to fully develop.

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Mcnabb deserves better wideouts. It is unfair with how much bs he gets. Westbrook is fucking underrated and a badass. Not to mention what an unselfish player. That slide at the 1 in the cowboy game was something else.
Westbrook is fucking amazing. I think he's a top 3 back in the game, behind only LT, and Peterson.

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Asante wil help them in the secondary, but if they do keep Sheppard, then thats easily the best group of DBs in the NFC. But if I were them i'd rather go with a proven reciever like Fitzgerald rather than some rookie who'll take a few seasons to fully develop.
Yea, I think if they were smart, they would keep Sheppard, and find a different way to get Fitzgerald. They are in a position where they need to win a title now, before McNabb is too far out of his prime.

[J.T.]

Yea, I think if they were smart, they would keep Sheppard, and find a different way to get Fitzgerald. They are in a position where they need to win a title now, before McNabb is too far out of his prime.

McNabb is the Yao of the NFL, if he can't stay healthy for an entire season then they can give up their Super Bowl dreams. If McNabb could stay healthy, they'd probably get back to the Super Bowl. I know the Giants just won the Super Bowl but the NFC is so lolz in the playoffs, they could easily win the conference and then cross their fingers they don't have to play NE/IND/SD in the Super Bowl.

But if Complainian is going to sit on the bench during playoff games, they might be able to beat the Chargers in the SB.

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McNabb is the Yao of the NFL, if he can't stay healthy for an entire season then they can give up their Super Bowl dreams. If McNabb could stay healthy, they'd probably get back to the Super Bowl. I know the Giants just won the Super Bowl but the NFC is so lolz in the playoffs, they could easily win the conference and then cross their fingers they don't have to play NE/IND/SD in the Super Bowl.

But if Complainian is going to sit on the bench during playoff games, they might be able to beat the Chargers in the SB.
I'd say McNabb is more like Dirk. Fantastic and very versatile talent who has gotten to, but not been able to win the big one, and lost a couple that their teams should have won, bringing on considerable amounts of criticism, some deserved, but a lot of excessive and unfair criticism as well, considering the fact that they led a team quite far for several years with less help than all other stars that do win the big one get. I still believe that if T.O. was fully healthy, the Eagles would have won the superbowl (despite the fact that the Patriots had to cheat, and could still only win by 3 points :lol)

[samikeyp]

I'm surprised Nickbroken hasn't crawled out from his rock to proclaim this the "greatest free-agent signing ever!"

Then again, he is still probably afraid of Melmart after he welched on their bet.

:lol