Video of the Derek Fisher disgust?

[Fabbs]

YouTube or anyone got a clear view of Fishers joke?

[TheMACHINE]

Its at the end of this highlight video.

http://www.lakersmedia.com/?p=77

DFish said after the game that he thought it was going to be a no-call and was surprised at the whistle.

[DaDakota]

Derek Fisher should be suspended by the league for that dirty flopping foul.

Someone could have gotten hurt, and he does that crap all the time, the league should take action and suspend him for a game.

He pulled Ellis down......clear as day.

DD

[DazedAndConfused]

First of all, the correct call should have been a NO-CALL. Not a foul on Fisher, he did not initiate contact with Ellis. I've watched this replay over about 20 times now and you can clearly see Ellis make the initial contact into Fisher's chest which knocked Derek off balance. Derek held onto Monta from that point onward to keep his balance and ended up taking both of them down to the floor. A lot of people are saying Derek had his hand on Ellis's back, but look closely and you can see Monta had his hand on Fisher's back as well.

Everyone needs to STFU about this being a BS flopping foul by Fisher. Fisher is a crafty vet, but he is not smart enough to orchestrate something like this. Monta barreled into Fish, and in the process of trying to keep his balance Fish ended up taking himself and Ellis down to the floor. The ref should have swallowed the whistle and let the players decide the outcome of the game.

[Fabbs]

Its at the end of this highlight video.

http://www.lakersmedia.com/?p=77

DFish said after the game that he thought it was going to be a no-call and was surprised at the whistle.
Thanks TheMACHINE. Would like to find one with a closer view or a slo mo.

Swisher isn't surprised at jack. No respect for the game, he knew he may well get another of his fag calls.
Plus why should it have been a "no call"? Taking one of the opponents players out should have been a foul call.

[DaDakota]

Fisher has done this EXACT move many many times....He did it against Luther head last year when he was with Utah...

Derek Fisher got away with it, the NBA should suspend him.

DD

[TheMACHINE]

Suspend him from flopping? Then i guess Scola and Manu will be watching from home alot next season if that goes thru.

[JamStone]

Definitely a foul on Fisher. But, those are the breaks. Every team in the league has lost a few games due to a bad call or a missed call. I know it's tight in the West and every team is fighting for playoff positioning or to secure a playoff spot, but if you hate that call that much, do everything you can to not put yourself in a position where a bad call will cost you the game. It sucks, but it happens.

[Fabbs]

Suspend him from flopping? Then i guess Scola and Manu will be watching from home alot next season if that goes thru.
Manu accentuates by flopping after contact has been made. He also does not wrap his arm around the player and pull him to the floor with him.
Nor does Manu feign injury.

Bogus comparison.

[LakeShow]

:cry

[DazedAndConfused]

The correct call is a NO-CALL. Not a foul on Fisher.

From the replay, and I've seen this play from all angles, you can see Monta hit Fisher squarely in the chest. Monta had enough momentum going to knock Fish off balance and as Fish was falling backwards he grabbed hold of Monta and took him down with him. I'm willing to bet half of you on here haven't actually analyzed the replay and are simply crying foul based on what you heard from GSW homer announcers.

The bottomline is Monta was dumb enough to run right into a crafty vet like Fisher and he paid the price. He should have went around Fish, end of story.

[TheMACHINE]

Manu accentuates by flopping after contact has been made. He also does not wrap his arm around the player and pull him to the floor with him.
Nor does Manu feign injury.

Bogus comparison.

a flop is a flop..unless there's a new term for Fishers move.

[JamStone]

I analyzed the video. It was still a foul on Fisher. Initiating "contact" does not determine a foul. Many blocking fouls are situations where the offensive player initiates contact. Monta Ellis did not "hit" Fisher. Body to body contact on a play like that is going to happen. It was not enough momentum to knock Fisher off balance. The Ellis "hit" on Fisher was a no call. Fisher grabbing Ellis from the back with his left arm is a clear foul.

[Fabbs]

a flop is a flop..unless there's a new term for Fishers move.
Arm wrap is the difference Homer. For Fisher i would say consult Laker posters for West Hollywood terms are used for Bear Hug, etc.

[DazedAndConfused]

I analyzed the video. It was still a foul on Fisher. Initiating "contact" does not determine a foul. Many blocking fouls are situations where the offensive player initiates contact. Monta Ellis did not "hit" Fisher. Body to body contact on a play like that is going to happen. It was not enough momentum to knock Fisher off balance. The Ellis "hit" on Fisher was a no call. Fisher grabbing Ellis from the back with his left arm is a clear foul.

Wrong, wrong, wrong. The only reason Fish ever held onto Monta was because he was falling backwards. The only reason he fell backwards was because he was pushed. Should have been a no-call, but when bodies started flying everywhere the refs had to call something. Monta made a bonehead play at the end of the game and it cost them.

[TheMACHINE]

Arm wrap is the difference Homer. For Fisher i would say consult Laker posters for West Hollywood terms are used for Bear Hug, etc.

lol..homer..nice one...

though im not the person obsessed on a call for a game that doesnt even involve your team...but oh yah..i forgot...you are so insecure about your team behind in the standings that you need to become a warrior fan for the day.

Have a good one. =)

[ElNono]

Please.... It's Fish!!!!! Hello??? Flopper Numero UNO in the league.
Let this be a reminder that Laker fans can't say a word when a player from another team flops on them.

When Fish does it, it's a 'crafty veteran move'.
When somebody else does it it's 'all that flailing and elbowing will injure a player some day'


:rolleyes

[JamStone]

Wrong, wrong, wrong. The only reason Fish ever held onto Monta was because he was falling backwards. The only reason he fell backwards was because he was pushed. Should have been a no-call, but when bodies started flying everywhere the refs had to call something. Monta made a bonehead play at the end of the game and it cost them.

You're contradicting yourself.

A no-call isn't made when both players foul each other. That's a double foul.

But, I don't even agree with that. I agree that Ellis' "push" or whatever you want to label it was a no-call. Fisher grabbing Ellis is a foul. It doesn't matter what the reason is why Fisher grabbed Ellis. If you grab another player and pull him down to the floor of the court, it's a foul.

Your rationale doesn't make sense. If anything, it's a double foul. Then no free throws for either player, and you replay the play. It's not a no-call.

[Purple & Gold]

I analyzed the video. It was still a foul on Fisher. Initiating "contact" does not determine a foul. Many blocking fouls are situations where the offensive player initiates contact. Monta Ellis did not "hit" Fisher. Body to body contact on a play like that is going to happen. It was not enough momentum to knock Fisher off balance. The Ellis "hit" on Fisher was a no call. Fisher grabbing Ellis from the back with his left arm is a clear foul.

Monta made no effort to go around Fisher. Was it a foul on Monta? NO. Was it a foul on Fisher for pulling him down? Probably. But it's Monta's fault for putting the refs in that position. He initiated contact and Fisher made a veteran move by pulling him down after he lost balance. (You have no idea if it was or wasn't enough force to make Fisher loose his balance) Fisher took Ellis to school on that one.

[Purple & Gold]

Please.... It's Fish!!!!! Hello??? Flopper Numero UNO in the league.
Let this be a reminder that Laker fans can't say a word when a player from another team flops on them.

When Fish does it, it's a 'crafty veteran move'.
When somebody else does it it's 'all that flailing and elbowing will injure a player some day'


:rolleyes

No when Manu does it he's a crafty veteran. When Fisher does it it's a disgust. :dramaquee

[robbie380]

jamstone is correct.

[Purple & Gold]

It's Ellis fault for trying to go through Fisher and not around him. He put the refs in that situation. Fisher schooled him. Simple as that.

[nkdlunch]

crafty move by a crafty veteran and ex-champion in Fisher. He ate little Monty's lunch.

was it a flop? hell yeah.

If Horry or Manu had made that play, I would be proud of them.

[JamStone]

Play at issue starts around the 7 minute mark.

piHxZ42ILtA

[Kriz-Maxima]

A suspension? GTFO. Cry me a river, every team has a player that does things like this.


Tough break, move on.

[Purple & Gold]

Play at issue starts around the 7 minute mark.

piHxZ42ILtA

He made no effort at all to go around Fisher. Clear as day. He put the refs in a bad situation.

[Purple & Gold]

Watching the replay it would be impossible for Ellis to go around Fisher with Fisher holding him!

Watch it again. Fish didn't start holding him till the end after Monta already made up his mind he was going through Fish. Ellis tried to go through him since the top of the key.

[JamStone]

Come on Laker fan. Fisher had both hands on Ellis the whole time. I know you're not this much of a homer.

[Purple & Gold]

Come on Laker fan. Fisher had both hands on Ellis the whole time. I know you're not this much of a homer.

Both hands?? You can't even see his right hand. I've already stated it was a bad call. It should have been a no call. But it's Monta's fault for putting the refs in that position. He made no effort at all to go around Fisher since the top of the key. Did he really think he would get the benefit of the doubt at the end of the game against a crafty veteran?? I guess he did and that's why the Warriors ended up with the L.

[JamStone]

It's already been stated.

It's not so easy to go around a player in less than 2 seconds when that player is holding and grabbing you.

[Purple & Gold]

It's already been stated.

It's not so easy to go around a player in less than 2 seconds when that player is holding and grabbing you.

Rewatch the vid :dramaquee

[JamStone]

I've watched it several times. It's incredulous that you think Ellis could have gotten around Fisher with Fisher's left arm draped all around his back even before Fisher pulled him down. You should rewatch the video.

[nkdlunch]

I've watched it several times. It's incredulous that you think Ellis could have gotten around Fisher with Fisher's left arm draped all around his back even before Fisher pulled him down. You should rewatch the video.

I agree that Fish pulled Ellis. Idiot Laker fans in denial.

But like I said, crafty move by crafty veteran. I've seen Rip Hamilton do the same thing plenty of times.

[JamStone]

Agreed nkdlunch. Smart, crafty, savvy move. All of that. But, it was definitely a foul on Fisher. And, Ellis was not in a position to go around Fisher because Fisher was grabbing him

Better question is why the hell were the Warriors in some sort of stack formation on the out of bounds play? Nellie couldn't come up with anything better than a high school stack????

[thispego]

HAH, what a pussy move by fisher

[Purple & Gold]

I've watched it several times. It's incredulous that you think Ellis could have gotten around Fisher with Fisher's left arm draped all around his back even before Fisher pulled him down. You should rewatch the video.

Fisher didn't pull him down till the end. Since the get go Ellis tried to go through him. I've already said it was a bad call and a schooling by Fisher.

[JamStone]

Fisher's arm was around Ellis' back well before the pull down.

Whatever. I don't have a bias either way. You obviously do.

Believe what you want. Just know that what you believe is wrong.

[Purple & Gold]

I agree that Fish pulled Ellis. Idiot Laker fans in denial.

But like I said, crafty move by crafty veteran. I've seen Rip Hamilton do the same thing plenty of times.

Laker fans realize Fish pulled Ellis down. Laker fans do not buy that Ellis could have not gone around fish because Fisher was pulling him the whole time. It's obvious Fisher pulled him at the end of the play and not from the top of the key like Piston fan over here is claiming.

[Purple & Gold]

Fisher's arm was around Ellis' back well before the pull down.

Whatever. I don't have a bias either way. You obviously do.

Believe what you want. Just know that what you believe is wrong.

No bias?? Between the Lakers and Warriors a Piston fan says no bias. :lol :lol

[Purple & Gold]

Fisher's arm was around Ellis' back well before the pull down.

Whatever. I don't have a bias either way. You obviously do.

Believe what you want. Just know that what you believe is wrong.

Rewatch the vid :dramaquee

[JamStone]

No bias?? Between the Lakers and Warriors a Piston fan says no bias. :lol :lol

What's funny?

If there's a team I like more between the Lakers and the Warriors, it's the Lakers. I am a fan of Kobe Bryant. If anything, I would side with the Lakers when it comes to something like this.

But, ok.

[ancestron]

Offensive foul by Monta Ellis. Clearly.

[Medvedenko]

What the vid on mute so you can see the actual play and hot have it be painted by the crying commentators. What pussies. Yes, it's a foul and it could have gone either way on Fish and Monta. Unfortunately it went against the Warriors.

[FromWayDowntown]

Boy, that's a surprisingly bad call by Delaney. From his position, there's no way that he can determine who initiated the fall, which would be crucial to making a correct call in that situation. I'm sympathetic to the notion that a no call would have been appropriate (though I think that any foul on the play was on Fisher); I'm quite surprised to see Bob Delaney make such a poor call at such a key moment in such a big game. Unfortunately, it's not the first time he's made a critical call from a poor vantage point in a game at Oakland this season -- he got the Spurs on a really, really bad block/charge call in the Spurs' second game against the W's. He virutally had his back to that play, looked up and seemed to just guess about what the call should have been in that instance. In this instance, it seems like a guess as well -- and a very bad one.

[Medvedenko]

If you look at the whole vid there are a bunch of questionable calls.

[FromWayDowntown]

If you look at the whole vid there are a bunch of questionable calls.

I'm sure of that, too. Despite the Dongahy incident last summer, NBA officiating is at a frustratingly poor level at the moment. There are some good ones out there (even some really good officials), but for the most part, there's way too much guessing going on for my tastes.

Delaney had no business making that call.

[DaDakota]

I hate it all, the NBA should review it, and on ANY obvious flop reward a Flagarent 1 foul....

It has to go....all this flopping is unmanly...and Fisher is the WORST offender...in the league.

DD

[Purple & Gold]

I hate it all, the NBA should review it, and on ANY obvious flop reward a Flagarent 1 foul....

It has to go....all this flopping is unmanly...and Fisher is the WORST offender...in the league.

DD

:dramaquee :dramaquee

[LA24]

Better question is why the hell were the Warriors in some sort of stack formation on the out of bounds play? Nellie couldn't come up with anything better than a high school stack????

Funny thing is Phil runs stacks a lot too.

[tlongII]

Fisher pulled him down. Obvious foul on Fisher.

[LakeShow]

http://media.msnbc.com/i/msnbc/Components/TEASES/SPORTS/WhineOfTheWeek/WhineOfTheWeekSIZED2.gif

[DazedAndConfused]

I hate it all, the NBA should review it, and on ANY obvious flop reward a Flagarent 1 foul....

It has to go....all this flopping is unmanly...and Fisher is the WORST offender...in the league.

DD

WAHHH WAHHHH WAHHHHH!!!!!!!!

[ElNono]

WAHHH WAHHHH WAHHHHH!!!!!!!!
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[The Nba Is Rigged]

I think Fish was just trying to deny Ellis the ball but he ended up losing his balance and then he grabbed Ellis to keep from falling and then both of them fell. There is no reason why the refs should have called anything in that situation. It should have been a No-call but once again the refs decide a game and prove my username is right once again.

[DaDakota]

Fisher has a history of doing this exact same move trying to draw a BS offensive foul late.

He should be suspended, or a tech should have been issued....and GS still gets the ball.

Fisher is a cheat....

DD

[LakeShow]

Fisher has a history of doing this exact same move trying to draw a BS offensive foul late.

He should be suspended, or a tech should have been issued....and GS still gets the ball.

Fisher is a cheat....

DD

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[The Nba Is Rigged]

Can someone please tell me why Kobe was bleeding so badly??

[DazedAndConfused]

Wahhhhhhhhhhh! Wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!! Wahh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[LakeShow]

Can someone please tell me why Kobe was bleeding so badly??

He got elbowed in the face by Baron Davis attempting to take a charge.

[The Nba Is Rigged]

He got elbowed in the face by Baron Davis attempting to take a charge.

Wow! Baron must have some really really sharp elbows, look at the damage!
http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z170/joejohnson24/bloodykobe.jpg

[LakeShow]

Wow! Baron must have some really really sharp elbows, look at the damage!
http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z170/joejohnson24/bloodykobe.jpg

Yeah,he got called for the foul for having his face in the way of baron's elbow.

[The Nba Is Rigged]

Yeah,he got called for the foul for having his face in the way of baron's elbow.

Are you fuckin serious?? That's so fucked up. They got the win though so at least it wasn't in vain

[LakeShow]

Are you fuckin serious?? That's so fucked up. They got the win though so at least it wasn't in vain

Yeah no reason to bitch about it. They were pretty physical last night but it made for some great basketball.

[The Nba Is Rigged]

Yeah no reason to bitch about it. They were pretty physical last night but it made for some great basketball.

Yeah, do you think you guys can beat them come playoff time? Honest opinion.

[LakeShow]

Yeah, do you think you guys can beat them come playoff time? Honest opinion.

Easily! Honestly.

[The Nba Is Rigged]

Easily! Honestly.

Yea me 2 :lol

[Fabbs]

Look at the 9:10 mark, they even drew a circle around it for the Laker bois to see:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6475629362123624752&q=Derek+Fisher+Monta+Ellis&total=4&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

:elephant :elephant show this at your pajama party at Sashas.

[DazedAndConfused]

Wahhhh!!!!!!! Wahhhhhhh!!!!!!! Wahhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[boutons_]

So next time we hear some snide remark from Phil Jackson about Spurs' dirty play, we'll listen sympathetically.

[Fabbs]

Wahhhh!!!!!!! Wahhhhhhh!!!!!!! Wahhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That's engery spthent you could be expthanding at the Sasha-Dereek Fisher celebratory pajama party.

Since a win isth a win, earned or not. :elephant

[DazedAndConfused]

Why is a guy whose user name is Fabbs, which I assume is Fabricio Oberto, complaining about flopping? Hell why are Spur's fans complaining about flopping? Your team employs two of the very best floppers in the league along with the dirtiest player in the NBA who was just recently suspended for kicking Chris Paul in the face while he was down on the floor.

[FromWayDowntown]

For whatever it's worth:

Moral victory?

The Warriors got some form of vindication from the league office regarding referee Bob Delaney's call in the final seconds of Monday's loss to the Los Angeles Lakers.

With four seconds left in overtime, Delaney called an offensive foul on the Warriors' Monta Ellis, who collided with the Lakers' Derek Fisher and fell to the floor before the ball was in-bounded. Kobe Bryant, who was intentionally fouled on the ensuing Lakers possession, then knocked down two free throws in a 123-119 Los Angeles victory.

Many, especially Warriors fans, thought if there was a foul at all, it was committed by Fisher. Stu Jackson, the NBA's executive vice president of basketball operations, agreed.

"We did review," Jackson said. "The call was incorrect. After looking at the play, the foul was on Fisher and not Ellis. It appeared that Fisher pulled Ellis down."

Jackson said the league informed the Warriors of its analysis. Delaney also was informed, though Jackson kept the discussions with the respected referee confidential.

http://www.contracostatimes.com/warriors/ci_8727148?nclick_check=1

[FromWayDowntown]

Why is a guy whose user name is Fabbs, which I assume is Fabricio Oberto, complaining about flopping? Hell why are Spur's fans complaining about flopping? Your team employs two of the very best floppers in the league along with the dirtiest player in the NBA who was just recently suspended for kicking Chris Paul in the face while he was down on the floor.

In a few short months, opposing teams' fans will be recalling the time that Bruce Bowen shanked Chris Paul in broad daylight while giving him an atomic wedgie.

[peskypesky]

Looks like the right call to me. Monta just bulldozes Fisher and they both go down. Not even questionable IMO.

[Spurminator]

Considering Bowen also proceded to drop his pants and take a massive shit all over Paul, I don't see why the kick to the face is what you're complaining about.

[LakeShow]

For whatever it's worth:

Moral victory?

The Warriors got some form of vindication from the league office regarding referee Bob Delaney's call in the final seconds of Monday's loss to the Los Angeles Lakers.

With four seconds left in overtime, Delaney called an offensive foul on the Warriors' Monta Ellis, who collided with the Lakers' Derek Fisher and fell to the floor before the ball was in-bounded. Kobe Bryant, who was intentionally fouled on the ensuing Lakers possession, then knocked down two free throws in a 123-119 Los Angeles victory.

Many, especially Warriors fans, thought if there was a foul at all, it was committed by Fisher. Stu Jackson, the NBA's executive vice president of basketball operations, agreed.

"We did review," Jackson said. "The call was incorrect. After looking at the play, the foul was on Fisher and not Ellis. It appeared that Fisher pulled Ellis down."

Jackson said the league informed the Warriors of its analysis. Delaney also was informed, though Jackson kept the discussions with the respected referee confidential.

http://www.contracostatimes.com/warriors/ci_8727148?nclick_check=1

Stu Jackson is an idiot! Tell us something that we didn't know. Why would you make a statement like that. Are you going to review ALL of the games and belittle other officials? This just opens the door for more Fix charges. Stupid, imo~

[hater]

I agree with Stu Jackson being an idiot

[FromWayDowntown]

Stu Jackson is an idiot! Tell us something that we didn't know. Why would you make a statement like that. Are you going to review ALL of the games and belittle other officials? This just opens the door for more Fix charges. Stupid, imo~

Actually, some might say it suggests the sort of transparency in the review of officials' calls that we were promised last summer in the wake of the Donaghy scandal. In virtually every other major sport, the league office will announce if a significant call in a particular game was made incorrectly -- the NFL, in particular, is famous for that.

I've said previously that I thought it should have been a no-call and that my quarrel with Delaney's call is that he was out of position to make the call that he made -- his call could have only been a guess. I'm not here to say that the Warriors got screwed, either. But I think it is actually some progress for the league to admit that an official made a mistake and to acknowledge that mistake publicly.

I'm not sure why this harkens fix charges -- it would seem to me to do just the opposite. Unless you're concerned that someone might think that Bob Delaney is fixing games for the Lakers.

[LakeShow]

Actually, some might say it suggests the sort of transparency in the review of officials' calls that we were promised last summer in the wake of the Donaghy scandal. In virtually every other major sport, the league office will announce if a significant call in a particular game was made incorrectly -- the NFL, in particular, is famous for that.

I've said previously that I thought it should have been a no-call and that my quarrel with Delaney's call is that he was out of position to make the call that he made -- his call could have only been a guess. I'm not here to say that the Warriors got screwed, either. But I think it is actually some progress for the league to admit that an official made a mistake and to acknowledge that mistake publicly.

I'm not sure why this harkens fix charges -- it would seem to me to do just the opposite. Unless you're concerned that someone might think that Bob Delaney is fixing games for the Lakers.

I hear you FWD, but my thinking is that we as fans all know that the officials makes mistakes sometimes and we accept that as part of the game. A bad or missed call in the 1st quarter can be just as devasting as one made in the 4th quarter. If he's going to go that route, what about Kobe being called for a foul on Baron because his face got in the way of Barons elbow? Just recently the suns were crying foul, is he going to give a statement on that game as well? I feel like he should have kept that in house. It was no need to make a statement opening up old wounds. Can you imagine the talk in GS now? Even though they were behind at the time of the call. It still did not assure a victory for GS. I too believe that it should have been a no-call but Fisher sold it and it was not an obvious foul by him at the time of the call. To me Jackson implies that Delaney made a call in the lakers favor and should not have. With the ref scandal last season I can see some, especially from GS claiming fix, warranted or not. I just don't see how this helps the league or the officials. But that is just my opinion.

[FromWayDowntown]

I hear you FWD, but my thinking is that we as fans all know that the officials makes mistakes sometimes and we accept that as part of the game. A bad or missed call in the 1st quarter can be just as devasting as one made in the 4th quarter. If he's going to go that route, what about Kobe being called for a foul on Baron because his face got in the way of Barons elbow? Just recently the suns were crying foul, is he going to give a statement on that game as well? I feel like he should have kept that in house. It was no need to make a statement opening up old wounds. Can you imagine the talk in GS now? Even though they were behind at the time of the call. It still did not assure a victory for GS. I too believe that it should have been a no-call but Fisher sold it and it was not an obvious foul by him at the time of the call. To me Jackson implies that Delaney made a call in the lakers favor and should not have. With the ref scandal last season I can see some, especially from GS claiming fix, warranted or not. I just don't see how this helps the league or the officials. But that is just my opinion.

I think this admission addresses a bigger problem of perception than anything else. To many fans, the Delaney call is a far more crucial call in determining the outcome of a game than a bad block/charge call in the middle of the second quarter. I'm not saying that's the reality -- good basketball minds know, as you say, that any call could prove to be critical -- but it's certainly a strong perception.

I think this call got the treatment it did because it occurred so late in a game that might be looked at as one that made a difference in the standings if GST ends up missing the playoffs by a game. I don't see there being any sinister implications to the fact that this admission was made or even to the fact that Delaney made the call.

Ultimately, what the league did is recognize that an official (one of its best officials) made a mistake in a big moment and that the mistake might have been costly to a team. If conspiracy theorists want to conclude that Delaney is fixing games for the Lakers based on that call, nothing in this admission is going to change that; in fact, I suspect that the very people that you're concerned about drawing such conclusions had already drawn that conclusion on Monday evening.

I also would be willing to guess that you'd see the objective merit to the league's decision if this hadn't been a call that favored the Lakers.

[LakeShow]

I think this admission addresses a bigger problem of perception than anything else. To many fans, the Delaney call is a far more crucial call in determining the outcome of a game than a bad block/charge call in the middle of the second quarter. I'm not saying that's the reality -- good basketball minds know, as you say, that any call could prove to be critical -- but it's certainly a strong perception.

I think this call got the treatment it did because it occurred so late in a game that might be looked at as one that made a difference in the standings if GST ends up missing the playoffs by a game. I don't see there being any sinister implications to the fact that this admission was made or even to the fact that Delaney made the call.

Ultimately, what the league did is recognize that an official (one of its best officials) made a mistake in a big moment and that the mistake might have been costly to a team. If conspiracy theorists want to conclude that Delaney is fixing games for the Lakers based on that call, nothing in this admission is going to change that; in fact, I suspect that the very people that you're concerned about drawing such conclusions had already drawn that conclusion on Monday evening.

I also would be willing to guess that you'd see the objective merit to the league's decision if this hadn't been a call that favored the Lakers.

I would just suck it up and move on to the next game. I personally don't cry over spilled milk. But I see your point and I respectfully disagree with the handling of the situation.

[Banzai]

http://www.threedown.com/backgrounds/ambulance.png
:lol :lol

[DazedAndConfused]

Derek Fisher should be SUSPENDED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[DaDakota]

They should overturn it then, put Ellis at the line with 4 seconds left on the clock and replay the final 4 seconds.

And, in order to stop all this flopping they need to start acessing technical fouls or suspending obvious offenders.

DD

[DazedAndConfused]

Derek Fisher Should Be Suspended!!!!!!!!!!!

[DaDakota]

Derek Fisher Should Be Suspended!!!!!!!!!!!

Hi Jeff ! Here is a picture of your last fight, I hope they were able to reattach your nose...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/Nismosis/efrtyo.gif
DD

[DazedAndConfused]

They say he partially tore a tendon in his foot. I think he's gonna try and play through it though. He did play with a broken foot in the 2001 playoffs though so I don't know how much it will affect him.

If it does, you can just add him to our injured list. The good thing is we are running out of healthy players to get hurt!

[DazedAndConfused]

It's not like his defense can get any worse :)

[Obstructed_View]

Those video highlights on that site are awesome. Very well done.