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Its at the end of this highlight video.
http://www.lakersmedia.com/?p=77
DFish said after the game that he thought it was going to be a no-call and was surprised at the whistle.
YouTube or anyone got a clear view of Fishers joke?
Its at the end of this highlight video.
http://www.lakersmedia.com/?p=77
DFish said after the game that he thought it was going to be a no-call and was surprised at the whistle.
Derek Fisher should be suspended by the league for that dirty flopping foul.
Someone could have gotten hurt, and he does that crap all the time, the league should take action and suspend him for a game.
He pulled Ellis down......clear as day.
DD
First of all, the correct call should have been a NO-CALL. Not a foul on Fisher, he did not initiate contact with Ellis. I've watched this replay over about 20 times now and you can clearly see Ellis make the initial contact into Fisher's chest which knocked Derek off balance. Derek held onto Monta from that point onward to keep his balance and ended up taking both of them down to the floor. A lot of people are saying Derek had his hand on Ellis's back, but look closely and you can see Monta had his hand on Fisher's back as well.
Everyone needs to STFU about this being a BS flopping foul by Fisher. Fisher is a crafty vet, but he is not smart enough to orchestrate something like this. Monta barreled into Fish, and in the process of trying to keep his balance Fish ended up taking himself and Ellis down to the floor. The ref should have swallowed the whistle and let the players decide the outcome of the game.
Thanks TheMACHINE. Would like to find one with a closer view or a slo mo.
Swisher isn't surprised at jack. No respect for the game, he knew he may well get another of his calls.
Plus why should it have been a "no call"? Taking one of the opponents players out should have been a foul call.
Fisher has done this EXACT move many many times....He did it against Luther head last year when he was with Utah...
Derek Fisher got away with it, the NBA should suspend him.
DD
Suspend him from flopping? Then i guess Scola and Manu will be watching from home alot next season if that goes thru.
Definitely a foul on Fisher. But, those are the breaks. Every team in the league has lost a few games due to a bad call or a missed call. I know it's tight in the West and every team is fighting for playoff positioning or to secure a playoff spot, but if you hate that call that much, do everything you can to not put yourself in a position where a bad call will cost you the game. It sucks, but it happens.
Manu accentuates by flopping after contact has been made. He also does not wrap his arm around the player and pull him to the floor with him.
Nor does Manu feign injury.
Bogus comparison.
The correct call is a NO-CALL. Not a foul on Fisher.
From the replay, and I've seen this play from all angles, you can see Monta hit Fisher squarely in the chest. Monta had enough momentum going to knock Fish off balance and as Fish was falling backwards he grabbed hold of Monta and took him down with him. I'm willing to bet half of you on here haven't actually analyzed the replay and are simply crying foul based on what you heard from GSW homer announcers.
The bottomline is Monta was dumb enough to run right into a crafty vet like Fisher and he paid the price. He should have went around Fish, end of story.
a flop is a flop..unless there's a new term for Fishers move.
I analyzed the video. It was still a foul on Fisher. Initiating "contact" does not determine a foul. Many blocking fouls are situations where the offensive player initiates contact. Monta Ellis did not "hit" Fisher. Body to body contact on a play like that is going to happen. It was not enough momentum to knock Fisher off balance. The Ellis "hit" on Fisher was a no call. Fisher grabbing Ellis from the back with his left arm is a clear foul.
Arm wrap is the difference Homer. For Fisher i would say consult Laker posters for West Hollywood terms are used for Bear Hug, etc.
Wrong, wrong, wrong. The only reason Fish ever held onto Monta was because he was falling backwards. The only reason he fell backwards was because he was pushed. Should have been a no-call, but when bodies started flying everywhere the refs had to call something. Monta made a bonehead play at the end of the game and it cost them.
lol..homer..nice one...
though im not the person obsessed on a call for a game that doesnt even involve your team...but oh yah..i forgot...you are so insecure about your team behind in the standings that you need to become a warrior fan for the day.
Have a good one. =)
Please.... It's Fish!!!!! o??? Flopper Numero UNO in the league.
Let this be a reminder that Laker fans can't say a word when a player from another team flops on them.
When Fish does it, it's a 'crafty veteran move'.
When somebody else does it it's 'all that flailing and elbowing will injure a player some day'
You're contradicting yourself.
A no-call isn't made when both players foul each other. That's a double foul.
But, I don't even agree with that. I agree that Ellis' "push" or whatever you want to label it was a no-call. Fisher grabbing Ellis is a foul. It doesn't matter what the reason is why Fisher grabbed Ellis. If you grab another player and pull him down to the floor of the court, it's a foul.
Your rationale doesn't make sense. If anything, it's a double foul. Then no free throws for either player, and you replay the play. It's not a no-call.
Monta made no effort to go around Fisher. Was it a foul on Monta? NO. Was it a foul on Fisher for pulling him down? Probably. But it's Monta's fault for putting the refs in that position. He initiated contact and Fisher made a veteran move by pulling him down after he lost balance. (You have no idea if it was or wasn't enough force to make Fisher loose his balance) Fisher took Ellis to school on that one.
No when Manu does it he's a crafty veteran. When Fisher does it it's a disgust.Please.... It's Fish!!!!! o??? Flopper Numero UNO in the league.
Let this be a reminder that Laker fans can't say a word when a player from another team flops on them.
When Fish does it, it's a 'crafty veteran move'.
When somebody else does it it's 'all that flailing and elbowing will injure a player some day'
jamstone is correct.
It's Ellis fault for trying to go through Fisher and not around him. He put the refs in that situation. Fisher schooled him. Simple as that.
crafty move by a crafty veteran and ex-champion in Fisher. He ate little Monty's lunch.
was it a flop? yeah.
If Horry or Manu had made that play, I would be proud of them.
Play at issue starts around the 7 minute mark.
A suspension? GTFO. Cry me a river, every team has a player that does things like this.
Tough break, move on.
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