Wtf Pop?!

[gospursgojas]

Throwing in the towel, when you're the one who started the 4th quarter down by 11, with Vaughn, Fin, Oberto, Ime, and Manu. :dizzy

[MannyIsGod]

I cursed so much when I saw that lineup

[gameFACE]

I've only been watching the game on and off. Mostly off.

What the fuck happened? Why did Pop puss out?

[gospursgojas]

He (stubborn as he is) felt the need to leave in the guys who ended the 3rd quarter (miserably might I add) The lead ballooned from 11 to like 25 in a matter of 3 or 4 mins. By then it was too late and the real players stayed seated.

[T Park]

Who should've played that was playing better?

[lefty]

CIA pop

[gospursgojas]

Who should've played that was playing better?

Tim - 18 pts

Tony 17pts

0 mins 4th quarter

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Now can someone tell me how did I know that there were going to be plenty of panic threads? I'm shocked. Really. Look at my face. See how shocked I am? Very.

[BonnerDynasty]

Trying to get the 3rd spot to get HOU in the first round.

Gotta keep L.A. close so he can manipulate standings at the end of reg season.

[T Park]

Tim - 18 pts

Tony 17pts

0 mins 4th quarter



Afraid to tell you but with Tim and Tony in they weren't winning.

Get over it.

[gameFACE]

Who should've played that was playing better?

Down by 9 at the end of the 3rd while on the road is not that bad. Other teams com back from bigger deficits..........

[anjlbitz]

No other explanation but

CIA POP

[ChumpDumper]

Pop read smeagol's thread today and decided to see if Manu could win the game without Tim and Tony.

[gospursgojas]

Afraid to tell you but with Tim and Tony in they weren't winning.

Get over it.


I will.

[SpursFanATL]

Pop needed to rest the starters tonight so that they will be ready for that all important Portland game on Sunday.

[TampaDude]

Trying to get the 3rd spot to get HOU in the first round.

Gotta keep L.A. close so he can manipulate standings at the end of reg season.

Yup...CIA Pop has it all worked out...no worries... :toast

[ducks]

pop knew manu was not on and did not think they would win
so he pulled the starters so utah would not be able to take anything from the game
cia pop

[T Park]

Same lineup he had vs the Rockets, vs the Warriors and all the other teams on the 8 game winning streak.

Them not making shots just made everyone think it was horrible.

[Slippy]

Only catching up to this game now. Im reading Pop kept Tim and Tony out in the 4th. Then take into account the mins played out by the subs and starters. You have to wonder if Pop was serious about winning or was this game more about preparing for the play-offs?

[T Park]

Only catching up to this game now. Im reading Pop kept Tim and Tony out in the 4th. Then take into account the mins played out by the subs and starters. You have to wonder if Pop was serious about winning or was this game more about preparing for the play-offs?

Or maybe by the time it was time to bring the starters back in it was a blowout so it was pointless?

[Slippy]

Or maybe by the time it was time to bring the starters back in it was a blowout so it was pointless?

You could be onto something here. Although if he still had Manu out there.. then i don't think he would of thought it was entirely pointless.

[gameFACE]

Spurs have come back from big deficits before. Manu's famous game against the Suns a fe years ago comes to mind.

[Mister Sinister]

Oh, no, the Spurs played a shitty game! Time for me to DO A BARREL ROLL out my window!

[Tek_XX]

Sorry but trying to lose does not = CIA

[T Park]

You could be onto something here. Although if he still had Manu out there.. then i don't think he would of thought it was entirely pointless.

He had his normal start of the 4th quarter lineup.

Ginobili plays bad, the defense plays well, so then its a "horrible" lineup.

[jag]

No use trying to salvage a terribly played game at the cost of piling on more minutes for the big 3. That's the only possible explanation i can think of.

[bdictjames]

Its a regular season game, if the playoffs started today, we'd be facing the Mavs.

I'd rather face the Rockets.

[Lebowski Brickowski]

He had his normal start of the 4th quarter lineup.

Ginobili plays bad, the defense plays well, so then its a "horrible" lineup.

It can't be argued that it wasn't a weak offensive lineup. Combined 4-18?? C'mon.

It was a WEAK lineup when they needed a scoring punch. And they were playing against utah's 1st team -- so it was basically 2's vs. 1's.

In addition, TP was the only player with balls in the whole 3rd Q. He had started to get fired up and was taking on the hard contact that is utah bball: earning FTs and scoring at the hoop.

Then Pop sits TP to start the 4th.

And only THEN-- after the scrubs couldn't score for 5 minutes -- was the game too far out of reach to play Timmy or Tony.
:pctoss

[ThomasGranger]

Its a regular season game, if the playoffs started today, we'd be facing the Mavs.

I'd rather face the Rockets.

Absolutely. They are the weakest playoff team in the West and the Spurs match up with them well. I'd rather the Spurs have an easier first round, even if it means giving up home court in the semis or WCF.

[Solid D]

Jazz saw the way the game was being called and played accordingly. They had terrific defense and 5 hatchets in the lane. When the Spurs stopped hitting their outside shots and wouldn't commit to winning the boards, Pop had no choice.

I had to scratch my head over Sloan, the Sr. coach in the league, playing his starters until 2:12 left in the game.

[T Park]

It can't be argued that it wasn't a weak offensive lineup. Combined 4-18?? C'mon.

It was a WEAK lineup when they needed a scoring punch. And they were playing against utah's 1st team -- so it was basically 2's vs. 1's.

In addition, TP was the only player with balls in the whole 3rd Q. He had started to get fired up and was taking on the hard contact that is utah bball: earning FTs and scoring at the hoop.

Then Pop sits TP to start the 4th.

And only THEN-- after the scrubs couldn't score for 5 minutes -- was the game too far out of reach to play Timmy or Tony.
:pctoss


Uh, sorry, you don't play any of your guys over 35 mins unless the game is close.

[Lebowski Brickowski]

9 points down with 12 min to go.

No one had close to 35 minutes going into the 4th.

The game was definitely winnable going into the 4th, if there were some scoring happening.

The defense was very good until that 4th Q lineup.

Then there was the combo of bad defense + no scorers = 26 point blowout.

[FilSpursFan]

Pop what were you thinkin'?

:reading :reading

[dav4463]

Spurs had a bad game against a good team that has the best home record in the league. It happens. The season is not over. Sometimes you need an embarrassing loss to get the team focused again. GO SPURS GO !!!!

[Lebowski Brickowski]

Spurs had a bad game against a good team that has the best home record in the league. It happens. The season is not over. Sometimes you need an embarrassing loss to get the team focused again. GO SPURS GO !!!!
All true but it doesn't say anything about that piss-poor lineup Pop used to bring us back from 9 POINTS going into the 4th.

[Allanon]

Pop can't be screwing around. Tough game at the Rose Garden coming up. Then a home game against the Suns. Suns and Rockets are only 1 game behind in the loss column...screw around and a 5/6 seed might be coming and first round without HCA against Utah/Suns/Lakers might happen.

They were only down 10 points, I really don't get this one.

[T Park]

:lmao @ at the forum coaches rearing their heads again.

[michaelwcho]

Oh, no, the Spurs played a shitty game! Time for me to DO A BARREL ROLL out my window!

There is cowardly over-reacting and there is being overconfident. I just know we have lost by 20+ to the Hornets, twice, and now blasted by the Jazz. I wonder if there is a convenient way to analyze how many times we get blown out by 20 each year.

[Kermit]

:lmao @ at the forum coaches rearing their heads again.
http://www.mgroves.com/images/south_park_smug.jpg
"Something about Pop's fart commanded T Park to inhale and exclaim that he had never smelled a fart quite as delicious as that one...even though it only scored 64 points."

[The Truth #6]

Tony played the whole 3rd quarter. Vaughn is going to have to come in at some time. Pop had to give Parker a break. I think this is cherrypicking the facts. We didn't lose because of that one lineup, we lost because they had already taken control of the game with our starters on the court.

[T Park]

http://www.mgroves.com/images/south_park_smug.jpg
"Something about Pop's fart commanded T Park to inhale and exclaim that he had never smelled a fart quite as delicious as that one...even though it only scored 64 points."


Or maybe its I just don't play the stupid card and go the coach route 100% of the time.


Nahh, much more intelligent to bang the coach.


Great one Kermit, keem em comin, FRESH stuff!!!!

[Amarelooms]

Throwing in the towel, when you're the one who started the 4th quarter down by 11, with Vaughn, Fin, Oberto, Ime, and Manu. :dizzy

Pop is smart...he does not want the 1 or 2 seed and risk playing the Mavs...thus avoiding losing in the first round...expect the Spurs to get the 3 seed :elephant

[DarrinS]

No use trying to salvage a terribly played game at the cost of piling on more minutes for the big 3. That's the only possible explanation i can think of.


That's what I was thinking. Oh well, at least I TIVO'ed the game, so, when I saw it get up by 20 or so, I just fast-forwarded until I saw Damon Stoudemire enter the game. That's the equivalent to the fat lady singing.

[DarrinS]

Pop is smart...he does not want the 1 or 2 seed and risk playing the Mavs...thus avoiding losing in the first round...expect the Spurs to get the 3 seed :elephant



We'll just watch as you guys get ousted by another "inferior" opponent. :lol

[Kermit]

Or maybe its I just don't play the stupid card and go the coach route 100% of the time.


Nahh, much more intelligent to bang the coach.


Great one Kermit, keem em comin, FRESH stuff!!!!

No. You play the ball fluffer role 100% of the time. You're more predictable tha Sequ. It's not a bad thing and most of the time you're right, but after a 26 point beat down where Pop put a questionable lineup on the floor, second guessing his decisions is warranted.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Pop is smart...he does not want the 1 or 2 seed and risk playing the Mavs...thus avoiding losing in the first round...expect the Spurs to get the 3 seed :elephant
Pop is smart because he knows the Mavs want to play the Spurs, so he's letting the Spurs lose so they go to the 3 seed, and so by doing that he wants to see if the Mavs can actually win some games now. If they do, they get a Spurs ownage. If they don't, consider them done.

[Kori Ellis]

Although I'm not calling for Pop's head like some of you, when the Spurs were down 9 heading to the fourth, after the two quick baskets from the Jazz (to push it to 13), I would have put Tony-Tim-Bowen back in to see if they could get them back in the game. Down 13 with 10 minutes to go isn't an impossible come back. But Pop opted to let the reserves try to get it done (even putting in B Jones) and the Jazz rolled on the them.

I think that the Jazz would have won anyway. But if I were coaching I would have given the starters another 4 minutes of playing time right after that time out to try to turn it around.

[Slippy]

When you have a physical team like Utah, I can understand Pop not wanting to invest too much mins on the main guys especially when the game seemed out of reach. With 11 days to go before the season ends , his main concern would be on keeping the team healthy , while still rolling.

[Kori Ellis]

When you have a physical team like Utah, I can understand Pop not wanting to invest too much mins with the main guys espicially when the game seemed out of reach. With 11 days to go before the season ends , his main concern would be on keeping the team healthy , while still rolling.

Of course, I understand that too. That's a fine line you have to walk. But every loss is important in the standings. I still would have given them a few more minutes.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y33/weezywantscoffee/blockheadtpark.jpg

[T Park]

No. You play the ball fluffer role 100% of the time. You're more predictable tha Sequ. It's not a bad thing and most of the time you're right, but after a 26 point beat down where Pop put a questionable lineup on the floor, second guessing his decisions is warranted.


Lineups are always questionable after they don't make shots.

Amazing how that same lineup was "great" after the Rockets and Warriors games.

[T Park]

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y33/weezywantscoffee/blockheadtpark.jpg



Move out of the basement then you can talk loser.

[Slippy]

Of course, I understand that too. That's a fine line you have to walk. But every loss is important in the standings. I still would have given them a few more minutes.

yah i agree about the extra mins. Even when 13 points down and 10mins to go i've seen Pop try to win games with the best possible line-ups . My post was more about Pop's line of thinking since i did not follow the game.

[gospursgojas]

Im not calling for Pops head even in the slightest bit, but that was a weak lineup. Oh and TPark says it worked in GS and in Houston, but you know what it didn't work tonight so make a fucking change Pop! Sometimes he coaches on philosophy more than situation.