Tiago Splitter Close to Signing Two-Year Extension with Tau

[Mr. Body]

How was Javtokas this year at Dynamo? You have stats?

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

How was Javtokas this year at Dynamo? You have stats?

12.2 points
6.6 rebounds
.5 assists
2.1 fouls
1.5 blocks
1.1 steals
1.1 turnovers
55 FT%
70 FG%
26 MPG

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

How crazy would SpursTalk go if we signed Robertas?

[oligarchy]

Not very.

[MannyIsGod]

I'd rather have Kurt Thomas than Javaktovas. Same type of player except Kurt is better.

[ChumpDumper]

Javtokas can run circles around Thomas even post accident. We need some athletes up front. I wouldn't mind Javtokas for the right price -- trouble is, he probably won't want it.

[angelbelow]

im a fan of javtokas, i wouldnt mind getting him for 3mil a year for 3 years.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

I'd rather have Kurt Thomas than Javaktovas. Same type of player except Kurt is better.

Same type player?

[Indazone]

Kurt Thomas is ok, but I didn't see him as bring much to the table during the playoffs.

[ChumpDumper]

As long as Shaq is in the west, we're going to need someone like Kurt.

[angelbelow]

according to this article, http://ultimosegundo.ig.com.br/esportes...32052.html, he hasnt signed anything and wont until after the spanish finals. maybe we can fly manu over, or pop, or TD, or bill russell over to convince him. a few posters from realgm are saying that word from brazil is that hes coming over. others are saying that he has money already being a pro since he was 15. i hope that he does choose to come over.

[kobyz]

i pray he will come over we need him!

[Joe Schmoogins]

according to this article, http://ultimosegundo.ig.com.br/esportes...32052.html, he hasnt signed anything and wont until after the spanish finals. maybe we can fly manu over, or pop, or TD, or bill russell over to convince him. a few posters from realgm are saying that word from brazil is that hes coming over. others are saying that he has money already being a pro since he was 15. i hope that he does choose to come over.

that would be great... can you post the article?

[Cansal]

:toast:toast:toast HI EVERYONE!!!!!!!! IN A FEW HOURS WE PLAY THE 2º GAME WITH BARÇA AND I HOPE EVERYONE ARE CONCENTRATE AND EXACTING FOR THE GAME AND WE CAN MAKE 0-2 AND WIN THE FINAL ACB NEXT WEEK HERE IN VITORIA WITH ALL OF SUPPORTERS!!!!!!!!!!! THE GAME IS AT 8 P.M. AND I THINK WE HAVE A LOT OF CHANCE TO MAKE HISTORY AND BREAK ALL THE STATISTICS THAT SAID THAT THE TEAM WHO HAS THE COURT IS HIS FAVOR ALWAYS WIN THE CUP. FOR OTHER PART, IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO SAY THE GREAT WORK THAT TIAGO MADE ON THURSDAY GO TO THE ACB VIDEO AND ENJOY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:flag::flag::flag:

[mystargtr34]

Hi Cansal... is there any way to watch the game other than subscribing on acbtv.com

??

Thanks

[Spurs Brazil]

Here the article:



"A oferta existe realmente, mas ele está totalmente focado na disputa das finais", explica o agente do atleta, Marcelo Maffia. "Ele não decidiu nada ainda"


SÃO PAULO - Escolhido na primeira rodada do draft da NBA pelo San Antonio Spurs, o ala/pivô Tiago Splitter recebeu proposta do Tau Ceramica para continuar mais duas temporadas com o clube espanhol. A proposta de renovação, contudo, só será respondida após a disputa das finais da Liga ACB contra o Barcelona, que começam nesta quinta-feira.

"A oferta existe realmente, mas ele está totalmente focado na disputa das finais", explica o agente do atleta, Marcelo Maffia. "Ele não decidiu nada ainda. O Tau quer renovar por mais dois anos, mas ele só define após a decisão do título".

Informada da proposta espanhola, a franquia norte-americana enviou um representante à Europa para acompanhar o caso. Mas tudo o que ela pode fazer é aguardar a decisão do atleta.

Todos os jogadores selecionados pelo draft são contratados dentro das regras da liga norte-americana. O primeiro contrato, de três anos com opção por mais um, tem valor estipulado pela NBA. "E não há possibilidade de contraproposta", destaca Maffia.

Apesar da tentação de se transferir para a liga profissional mais famosa do mundo, continuar na Europa pode ser um bom negócio para Splitter. "Financeiramente, uma equipe de ponta como o Tau tem todas as condições de oferecer um contrato muito interessante para o jogador", reconhece o agente.

Splitter ainda está sob contrato com a equipe espanhola, mas uma das cláusulas permite que ele deixe o time no final desta temporada para se transferir para a NBA. Para isto, ele precisa pagar o valor da multa rescisória (estimado em cerca de 1 milhão de euros no ano passado). Mas o Spurs só são autorizados a bancar US$ 500 mil nesta negociação, ficando o restante a cargo do próprio atleta.

A trajetória de Splitter na Europa começou em 2000, quando foi contratado pelo Tau aos 15 anos. Antes de chegar à equipe principal, em 2004, o catarinense de Blumenau, jogou nos times de acesso, defendendo o Araba Gorago, no primeiro ano, e o Bilbao Basket nos três anos seguintes.

For the 1st time I see his agent speak

He said Tau made a great offer but Tiago still not decided if he's going to accept. He'll wait the enf of Spanish league to decide.

If that's true I hope Pop or RC go there and talk to him

[Harry Callahan]

Shouldn't this thread title be changed to ".....may sign a two year extention with Tau."? since it hasn't actually happened.

[mystargtr34]

Well the first word that came out actually said Splitter had already signed the deal...

Anyway SpursBrazil... thats great news coming from the agent himself..

I havent given up hope yet... this one move alone could determine whether the off season is a success or failuire.

Having two NBA quality young guys to develop next season would be great.

I think its crucial Tiago comes because my best guess would be Ian needs some more time in Austin.

One other concievable route the Spurs may have already taken... and one which i think would be a mistake... is to advise Tiago to take a two year deal... and then the Spurs buy him out for 500k after the first year. That could allow Tiago to get paid well for one year... and allow the Spurs to give minutes to Ian.

I just think that puts Splitter back a year and the Spurs back a year.. Tim Duncan wont be around forever.

The last scenario seems unliekly but possible.

In the mean time im gonna continue to hope.. and maybe pray

[xmas1997]

Well, this is good news.
I expect that Pop will be making a personal visit to Spain soon, or Brazil, wherever Tiago currently is because they know they need him now more than ever.
I also expect Pop to be visiting V. Spanoulis real soon too, another good player the Spurs hope to lure back to the NBA.

[completely deck]

I'll be the biggest Splitter fan here if he comes, biggest hater if he doesnt :)

[DaDakota]

That is good news for the Spurs fans, RC and Pop need to hop on a plane and go over and let this guy know how important he is to the Spurs.

DD

[remingtonbo2001]

Signing Tiago is the only thing which will draw me out of severe depression.


MAKE IT HAPPEN.

[Sway]

Look if he really hasn’t signed then Pop, TD, Tony, & Manu need to go see him. RC just isn’t going to get it done. The big three need to do the usual, “we want you to be part of the team” pitch. Even with that, I still think Pop will make or break the deal. He is going to have to promise the kid some PT so that he can develop and that he wont send him to the “Year long Pop Doghouse” the first time he makes a mistake.

[T Park]

Yeah Pop and company if they know this, have to NOW put on a hardcore full court press to woo the guy.

If you can get Splitter to come over, the summer is halfway to becoming a success. I can't tell you how good this guy is and how much he would contribute.

[Indazone]

Tell you guys what. I think that you should just let all your expiring contracts go. Sign a really big name player to go along side of your stars Bowen, Duncan, Parker, Ginobili. Let Tiago out of his contract for cash to say...the Houston Rockets. Use the extra money and sign Arenas or a established Big Man and make Oberto the backup. :D

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Tell you guys what. I think that you should just let all your expiring contracts go. Sign a really big name player to go along side of your stars Bowen, Duncan, Parker, Ginobili. Let Tiago out of his contract for cash to say...the Houston Rockets. Use the extra money and sign Arenas or a established Big Man and make Oberto the backup. :D

I doubt that would work.

[planaria]

How does Tiago compare with Andris Biedrins? Is Tiago anything like Andris Biedrins in terms of having quick feet for a 7 footer, good shot blocker, able to finish at the rim? If Tiago is anything close to Biedrins, then the Spurs MUST convince him to come here.

Splitter - Better at on floor defense (for sure) and more polished offensive game;

Biendrins - Better shot blocker and better rebounder.

I´d take Splitter over Biendrins, but it´s close.

[jag]

One other concievable route the Spurs may have already taken... and one which i think would be a mistake... is to advise Tiago to take a two year deal... and then the Spurs buy him out for 500k after the first year. That could allow Tiago to get paid well for one year... and allow the Spurs to give minutes to Ian.

I just think that puts Splitter back a year and the Spurs back a year.. Tim Duncan wont be around forever.

The last scenario seems unliekly but possible.

In the mean time im gonna continue to hope.. and maybe pray

This has got to be in the back of their mind when they make deals this offseason...the window won't stay open forever. All i know, is that if Splitter decides to come over here and ends up riding the bench i'm gonna be pissed.

[T Park]

Splitter - Better at on floor defense (for sure) and more polished offensive game;

Biendrins - Better shot blocker and better rebounder.

I´d take Splitter over Biendrins, but it´s close.


I'd say Splitter is almost or even in shot blocking.

[Indazone]

You're gonna have to pay him more money. 2 million dollars will not cut it

[manufor3]

^^that's the rookie cap thing

[T Park]

You're gonna have to pay him more money. 2 million dollars will not cut it

Are you failing to fucking understand THE ROOKIE SET CAP!??!?

[wildbill2u]

Spurs should find some kid in middle school with Superstar written in indelible ink on his forehead and draft him.

[Indazone]

Are you failing to fucking understand THE ROOKIE SET CAP!??!?

No but you are failing to understand basic economics.

You're not gonna get him period.

[T Park]

No but you are failing to understand basic economics.

You're not gonna get him period.


No I'm not.

The Spurs have a shot though.

[Indazone]

Lets see 8 x more salary to stay put

16 million dollars vs 4 million over 2 years. Uhhhh duh! Lets see if we can get your propeller spinning a little faster on your beanie thinking cap. Tiago is staying right where he is unless Stern changes the rules like next week.

I"ll say it again. Zero chance of getting Splitter.

[Joe Schmoogins]

I"ll say it again. Zero chance of getting Splitter.


This is going in my sig when we sign splitter.

[Indazone]

The only way you sign Splitter is if you find some other creative way outside the NBA rules to compensate this guy. Shoe contract comes to mind but I don't see Nike or Reebok breaking down any doors to sign him. Any other compensation factors like free house, free car, free golf club membership etc. won't make any difference with this huge salary discrepency.

Maybe if you kicked money under the table to Tau to pay him from their salary coffers LOL.

Oh and pleeezzee don't use that washed up old argument that he'd come for the honor of playing in the NBA with the best players in the best league on the planet. That didn't fly before in the ABA and it won't fly now. Otherwise guys like Dr. J, George McGinnis, Artis Gilmore, George Gervin, Dan Issel would never have joined the ABA. You know the saying, "Money Talks and BS Walks".

[K-State Spur]

The only way you sign Splitter is if you find some other creative way outside the NBA rules to compensate this guy. Shoe contract comes to mind but I don't see Nike or Reebok breaking down any doors to sign him. Any other compensation factors like free house, free car, free golf club membership etc. won't make any difference with this huge salary discrepency.

Maybe if you kicked money under the table to Tau to pay him from their salary coffers LOL.

Oh and pleeezzee don't use that washed up old argument that he'd come for the honor of playing in the NBA with the best players in the best league on the planet. That didn't fly before in the ABA and it won't fly now. Otherwise guys like Dr. J, George McGinnis, Artis Gilmore, George Gervin, Dan Issel would never have joined the ABA. You know the saying, "Money Talks and BS Walks".

Pretty passionate about it considering it doesn't involve the Rockets one iota. Would appear that somebody is a bit scared of the possibility of Splitter being on the Spurs roster.

[Indazone]

Actually I see this as an issue with every single NBA club not just the Spurs. This is a problem that has to be fixed if the NBA wants to continue to be the premier league. They have to be competitive with salaries otherwise, players like Splitter will continue to walk.

[Ocotillo]

Today as things stand, the only way Splitter comes is if he wants to play in the league. Salary-wise, the Spurs are hamstrung by the league rules regarding salaries that can be paid first round picks.

The only reason he would come is if he wants to be in the league. If he signs with Tau for 2 years and comes to the league, he still is in the same rut salary-wise.

The chances of landing him are slim but it is within the realm of possibility.

[Indazone]

Just wait until the Euroleague starts waiving that kind of money to our top draft picks.

lol...you'll see how much the quaint little charm of playing in the NBA matters.

[tmtcsc]

Signing Tiago is the only thing which will draw me out of severe depression.


MAKE IT HAPPEN.

I would think Manu getting healthy should do the job for you getting out of a severe depression, not signing Tiag Splitter. Tiago will be good, like Scola..let's not make him out to be better than he is.

[Ocotillo]

^^

that is correct. Global economics being what it is, the European teams and agents have no doubt already figured this out with what is happening with Splitter. This up coming draft, it would not be suprising to see other European teams make a run at NBA draftees. It might not sink in on the general fan base at large here in the States unless some big name signs over there but I wouldn't be suprised to see a number of folks both American and International sign in Europe rather than the NBA because of the competitive disadvantage the NBA is currently in, in this particular area.

Thing is, if the league opens up the what can be paid to rookies, the small markets in the NBA will begin to flounder like MLB small market teams do now.

It's complicated but things are going to change and people in San Antonio, Portland, New Orleans, Memphis, Milwaukee, etc..... may be in for a disappointment.

Stern has been wanting to appeal to the global market for sometime now. Maybe the solution is to have NBA leagues in the two hemispheres and the championship is played between the two teams that make it through their respective playoffs and you truly have a world champion.

[Holt's Cat]

Again, since when are European clubs offering 7 year, $120 million contracts? Or measly 5 year, $55 million numbers, for that matter? That's why the NBA continues to be attractive to international talent. It isn't hard to figure out. The longer Splitter takes to join the Spurs, the longer he's going to have to wait for the long term guaranteed money.

As for the Euroleagues, the NBA could always just raise the rookie scale across the board and fuck them hard.

[Buddy Holly]

LOL at people getting worried about one of the best player in Europe getting paid big bucks in comparison to the salary of a 28th pick.

He's the best big man in Europe, of course he's getting a big offer.

[Indazone]

Again, since when are European clubs offering 7 year, $120 million contracts? Or measly 5 year, $55 million numbers, for that matter? That's why the NBA continues to be attractive to international talent. It isn't hard to figure out. The longer Splitter takes to join the Spurs, the longer he's going to have to wait for the long term guaranteed money.

As for the Euroleagues, the NBA could always just raise the rookie scale across the board and fuck them hard.


Then tell Stern to do that by next week LOL. Nope not gonna happen. No rookie scale pay raise. Then again, tell me how many NBA players get 7 year 120 million dollar contracts? :lmao

[Buddy Holly]

Then tell Stern to do that by next week LOL. Nope not gonna happen. No rookie scale pay raise. Then again, tell me how many NBA players get 7 year 120 million dollar contracts? :lmao

Hey dumbass, Kirk Hinrich makes over 11 million dollars a year. Think about that shit.

Better yet, Mike Bibby makes over 14 million a year, Rashard Lewis makes almost 16 million a year. Zach Randolph makes over 13 million.

Yeah, the NBA has much to fear... :rollin

[Indazone]

Hey dumbass, Kirk Hinrich makes over 11 million dollars a year. Think about that shit.

Better yet, Mike Bibby makes over 14 million a year, Rashard Lewis makes almost 16 million a year. Zach Randolph makes over 13 million.

Yeah, the NBA has much to fear... :rollin

Yeah lets see now. That is hmm 9.3 mil Euros for Bibby, 10.6 mil Euros for Lewis, 8.6 mil Euros for Zach. The Euro was started at 1:1 with the US dollar. So their economy hums along and it's all relative. Those Euro's to them is like our dollars so think about that and stick it in your cap.

Nobody has shown me any 7 year 120 million dollar contracts lol. T-Mac gets a 5 year 100 million dollar contract and Yao has a 5 yr 80 million contract. Does Shaq have a 7yr contract LOL. If our dollar falls anymore to where it's 2 Euros to every dollar you can bet that a lot of players are going there to play. As it stands now, the Euroleague has the ability to pay big bucks if they want to. All they have to do is divert some of that soccor money to basketball.

[Buddy Holly]

This was posted back in Oct. But here are the top contracts in Europe.

1. Sarunas Jasikevicius (Panathinaikos) 4.2mio
2. Theodoros Papaloukas (CSKA) 3.5mio
3. Ramunas Siskauskas (CSKA) 2.5mio
4. Arvydas Macijauskas (Olympiakos) 2.2mio
5. Lazaros Papadopoulos (Real) 2.0mio
6. Alexei Savrasenko (CSKA) 2.0mio
7. Dimitris Diamantidis (Panathinaikos) 1.9mio
8. J.R. Holden (CSKA) 1.85mio
9. David Anderson (CSKA) 1.8mio
10. Nikola Vujcic (Maccabi Tel Aviv) 1.7mio

[Buddy Holly]

Yeah lets see now. That is hmm 9.3 mil Euros for Bibby, 10.6 mil Euros for Lewis, 8.6 mil Euros for Zach. The Euro was started at 1:1 with the US dollar. So their economy hums along and it's all relative. Those Euro's to them is like our dollars so think about that and stick it in your cap.

So a player making 16 million in America can make 10 million in Europe... where do these players sign up? :lol


Nobody has shown me any 7 year 120 million dollar contracts lol. T-Mac gets a 5 year 100 million dollar contract and Yao has a 5 yr 80 million contract. Does Shaq have a 7yr contract LOL. If our dollar falls anymore to where it's 2 Euros to every dollar you can bet that a lot of players are going there to play. As it stands now, the Euroleague has the ability to pay big bucks if they want to. All they have to do is divert some of that soccor money to basketball.

7 year deals are a rarity. At best you're going to get a 5 year deal with an option for a sixth and even that is rare. Gone are the days pf 7 or even 10 year deals.

Why would Shaq have a seven year deal?

The Euroleague can pay big bucks sure, but in relation to Europe and other sub par leagues in other countries but not compared to the NBA.

What you and others are doing is making a big deal out of nothing. One of the best players over there is getting a decent contract offer and is mulling it over against a rookie cap locked salary in the NBA.

[Holt's Cat]

Then tell Stern to do that by next week LOL. Nope not gonna happen. No rookie scale pay raise. Then again, tell me how many NBA players get 7 year 120 million dollar contracts? :lmao


Duncan, Kobe, Shaq, Garnett, JO'Neal, etc. Some have gotten more.

Tell me, how many Euroleague players have gotten more than a $40 million guaranteed contract? $30 mil?

The rookie scale will likely be revamped if it continues to limit teams' efforts to sign the international players for which they hold draft rights.

[Holt's Cat]

This was posted back in Oct. But here are the top contracts in Europe.

1. Sarunas Jasikevicius (Panathinaikos) 4.2mio
2. Theodoros Papaloukas (CSKA) 3.5mio
3. Ramunas Siskauskas (CSKA) 2.5mio
4. Arvydas Macijauskas (Olympiakos) 2.2mio
5. Lazaros Papadopoulos (Real) 2.0mio
6. Alexei Savrasenko (CSKA) 2.0mio
7. Dimitris Diamantidis (Panathinaikos) 1.9mio
8. J.R. Holden (CSKA) 1.85mio
9. David Anderson (CSKA) 1.8mio
10. Nikola Vujcic (Maccabi Tel Aviv) 1.7mio


I'd be surprised if any of those are longer than 2 years.

[Buddy Holly]

Didn't Eric Dampier get a seven year deal?

[Buddy Holly]

I'd be surprised if any of those are longer than 2 years.

What would those numbers be in american dollars?

[Holt's Cat]

My bad.

Kobe's contract wasn't 7 years and $120 mil guaranteed. It's 7 years and $136 mil.

TD's contract is 7 years, $122 mil.

But that's not the major point. That point is the large number of $30 and 40 million guaranteed contracts doled out in the NBA.

Take a look...http://www.eskimo.com/~pbender/contracts

Even with the $ dropping, the possibility of one of those contracts is more attractive than the possibility of a guaranteed contract worth maybe 1/4th of that.

[Holt's Cat]

What would those numbers be in american dollars?

Assuming those are in Euros, the top salary in Europe is apparently $6 mil, or just a smidgen above the average NBA salary.

ROFL.

[Harry Callahan]

If the listing of top paid guys is accurate, this reported offer to Splitter makes him one of the three highest paid guys in Euroleague? And he is almost the highest paid? I know he is a good NBA prospect, but that seems pretty high in relation to all the other guys over there.

Did Tau pay him peanuts before and now that the Spurs want him, they finally decide to open up the pursestrings.

Is the current exchange rate 1.36 dollars per Euro? I could be way off in my calculations.

[Holt's Cat]

If the listing of top paid guys is accurate, this reported offer to Splitter makes him one of the three highest paid guys in Euroleague? And he is almost the highest paid? I know he is a good NBA prospect, but that seems pretty high in relation to all the other guys over there.

Did Tau pay him peanuts before and now that the Spurs want him, they finally decide to open up the pursestrings.

Is the current exchange rate 1.36 dollars per Euro? I could be way off in my calculations.

Assume $1.50.

[Buddy Holly]

Assuming those are in Euros, the top salary in Europe is apparently $6 mil, or just a smidgen above the average NBA salary.

ROFL.

That's why I asked I'm not sure what the hell MIO is.

[Bruno]

Tau won game 2 against Barcelona.
They are up 2-0 in a best of 5 series and will play 2 of the last 3 games at home.

Splitter's stats : 12 points(5/13 FG, 2/5 FT) and 9 rebounds
For Barcelona, Ersan Ilyasova put 15 points and 10 rebounds. He had a so-so season but he is playing great in the playoffs. He is only 22 and could be back with bucks next season.

[ChumpDumper]

If the listing of top paid guys is accurate, this reported offer to Splitter makes him one of the three highest paid guys in Euroleague? And he is almost the highest paid? I know he is a good NBA prospect, but that seems pretty high in relation to all the other guys over there.

Did Tau pay him peanuts before and now that the Spurs want him, they finally decide to open up the pursestrings.He took them as far as Scola did in Euroleague last year, and farther than Scola did in the ACB. That's worth quite a bit of scratch.

[Buddy Holly]

Here's the NBA rookie salary scale.

http://www.mynbadraft.com/NBA-Rookie-Salary-Scale-2007

We're only having this discussion because Tiago was drafted 28th. It's that simple.

[timvp]

I'd say Splitter is almost or even in shot blocking.Biedrins > Splitter at shotblocking. Splitter averaged less than a block per game ... in Euroleague.

In general, Biedrins >>>>>>>>> Splitter. Splitter is good but Biedrins is a younger and would be even more of a stud right now if he played for anyone other than Nellie.

I'll try to think of a good comparison for Splitter ... haven't thought of one yet.

[Holt's Cat]

And the highest paid player in Europe's contract was a whopping 2 years long:


On September 25, 2007, Panathinaikos announced the 2-year agreement with Jasikevičius.[5] His contract (€7,000,000 for 2 years) and the total cost of the transfer (€8,700,000 including his €1,700,000 buyout) made Jasikevičius' move to Panathinaikos the most expensive athlete transfer in Greek sports history.

link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%A0ar%C5%ABnas_Jasikevi%C4%8Dius#Back_to_Europe )

So while some NBA teams with the low 1st round draft rights to international talent will find it perhaps a little harder to sign that talent given the recent decline in the $, the imminent move of NBA talent to Europe is not at hand.

[Harry Callahan]

Assume $1.50.

Thanks for the clarification.

That's good money for the top guys, but there's a ton of players in the NBA pulling down $3-5MM per year after tax 4 or 5 years guaranteed.

The salaries over there are net of tax so that can up the totals by 30-35%. The list is of the highest paid guys supposedly.

Assuming this list is in the ballpark, Ten or so players on the 23 teams are making the annual salary that 120 or 130 guys are making in the NBA.

Do the Euroleague guys get big money contracts for 4-5 years guaranteed or is the business model over there not structured to do that?

I know Scola had a long term deal before coming over, but I'm not sure if he had a huge annual salary over in Europe.

[Buddy Holly]

Looks like Indazone's argument is...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3c/Flushing_toilet.jpg/502px-Flushing_toilet.jpg

[Holt's Cat]

Thanks for the clarification.

That's good money for the top guys, but there's a ton of players in the NBA pulling down $3-5MM per year after tax 4 or 5 years guaranteed.

The salaries over there are net of tax so that can up the totals by 30-35%. The list is of the highest paid guys supposedly.

As long as your nationality is the same as where you play. Any American would have to pay tax on whatever money they receive. So you pay income tax on your salary and then you pay income tax on the amount you were paid to pay your income taxes.

:jack




Assuming this list is in the ballpark, Ten or so players on the 23 teams are making the annual salary that 120 or 130 guys are making in the NBA.


At least.



Do the Euroleague guys get big money contracts for 4-5 years guaranteed

No.



I know Scola had a long term deal before coming over, but I'm not sure if he had a huge annual salary over in Europe.

He might have the last season, but he stands to get much more now in the NBA.

[Holt's Cat]

The basic math for Splitter is that he can take Tau's 2 year guaranteed offer now for a higher amount than the rookie scale with no guarantee after that or he can come to the NBA, start playing through the rookie scale contract, and get long-term guaranteed money when that ends. If he's as good as advertised, he should be able to start in the NBA and be an above average starting NBA center. So he could very well be looking at a $60+ mil guaranteed contract then.

[Harry Callahan]

Jeez guys.

The two years guaranteed money and two year team options might limit the Spurs if this guy turns out to be good (assuming he comes over now).

Could the SAS figure out a way to just get him over here with the idea that they could extend him after two or three years to bigger dollars?

On the surface, the salaries in this four year window would seem to be a detriment to the Spurs.

Like some other people have mentioned, maybe the NBA and NBAPA could come up with something so their clubs could have a waiver per team where they could bring in someone at a more competative rate than they can now. Especially the late #ones.

[AFBlue]

Biedrins > Splitter at shotblocking. Splitter averaged less than a block per game ... in Euroleague.

In general, Biedrins >>>>>>>>> Splitter. Splitter is good but Biedrins is a younger and would be even more of a stud right now if he played for anyone other than Nellie.

I'll try to think of a good comparison for Splitter ... haven't thought of one yet.


Glad you backed off the Francisco Elson comparison just because Splitter ran fast...:lol

Agree that Biedrins is probably not the best comparison though. They have about the same build and speed, but I think I'd end it there.

FWIW, both DX and NBAdraft.net listed PJ Brown as a comparison.

[Harry Callahan]

The basic math for Splitter is that he can take Tau's 2 year guaranteed offer now for a higher amount than the rookie scale with no guarantee after that or he can come to the NBA, start playing through the rookie scale contract, and get long-term guaranteed money when that ends. If he's as good as advertised, he should be able to start in the NBA and be an above average starting NBA center. So he could very well be looking at a $60+ mil guaranteed contract then.

HC,
Does Splitter pay income tax on his deal because he is from Brazil and plays in the Euroleage for a Spanish team? If so, that does bring down the offered numbers somewhat?

[ChumpDumper]

HC,
Does Splitter pay income tax on his deal because he is from Brazil and plays in the Euroleage for a Spanish team? If so, that does bring down the offered numbers somewhat?Taxes are always paid. It's just that Euro salaries as reported are apparently after taxes have been taken out. In addition, things like car and home leases can be included that would be considered cap circumvention in the NBA.

[Holt's Cat]

HC,
Does Splitter pay income tax on his deal because he is from Brazil and plays in the Euroleage for a Spanish team? If so, that does bring down the offered numbers somewhat?

He holds dual citizenship from Brazil and Spain.

[Borosai]

If he wants to play in the NBA, the best time is now, when the Spurs are in need of his services. Maybe the spot will be open when he decides to come over later, but there's no guarantee of that.

[whottt]

Biedrins > Splitter at shotblocking. Splitter averaged less than a block per game ... in Euroleague.

In general, Biedrins >>>>>>>>> Splitter. Splitter is good but Biedrins is a younger and would be even more of a stud right now if he played for anyone other than Nellie.

I'll try to think of a good comparison for Splitter ... haven't thought of one yet.



Scola and Oberto...only with more physical ability to play in the NBA.


I agree that Biedrins is much better...he's much more athletic than Splitter.

[Indazone]

The Euroleague wants to keep their guys there. You are just beginning to see the effects of competition for players. Very shortly you will see the Euroleague salaries start to get more and more competitive just so they can get guys to stay there.

[Buddy Holly]

The Euroleague wants to keep their guys there. You are just beginning to see the effects of competition for players. Very shortly you will see the Euroleague salaries start to get more and more competitive just so they can get guys to stay there.

:lol

Enough.

[Holt's Cat]

The Euroleague wants to keep their guys there. You are just beginning to see the effects of competition for players. Very shortly you will see the Euroleague salaries start to get more and more competitive just so they can get guys to stay there.

So 3 year long contracts now?

[Russ]

There should be a way to apply to the league for an exemption from the rookie salary cap when your draft pick is being offered more money to keep him out of the NBA -- that would be in the league's overall interest. (Sort of like applying to the league for an injury exemption from the cap.)

Then the league could grant the Spurs such an exemption as a "make up call" for the screwup at the end of Game 4. :)

[Holt's Cat]

There should be a way to apply to the league for an exemption from the rookie salary cap when your draft pick is being offered more money to keep him out of the NBA -- that would be in the league's overall interest. (Sort of like applying to the league for an injury exemption from the cap.)

Then the league could grant the Spurs such an exemption as a "make up call" for the screwup at the end of Game 4. :)

Not a bad idea. Maybe the exemption becomes that you can use your MLE on that player.

[Bruno]

After today's game, Pete Mickael, a player of Tau, said that Splitter has signed a two year extension. When journalists ask Splitter to give a confirmation of that he said that they had to be patient.

While it makes few doubts that Splitter will sign with Tau, I wonder why they handle it like that.
If Splitter has signed his extension, why didn't they say it ?
If no, why his teammate says that he has signed it and what are they waiting to sign it ?

My guess : They are waiting the end of the league to said it and they have made a huge banner "we have fucked Spurs, again..." just for that event. :depressed

[Holt's Cat]

Oh well. Hopefully the Spurs can improve without his ass. That would be nice; not even needing him after this.

[Streakyshooter08]

After today's game, Pete Mickael, a player of Tau, said that Splitter has signed a two year extension. When journalists ask Splitter to give a confirmation of that he said that they had to be patient.

While it makes few doubts that Splitter will sign with Tau, I wonder why they handle it like that.
If Splitter has signed his extension, why didn't they say it ?
If no, why his teammate says that he has signed it and what are they waiting to sign it ?

My guess : They are waiting the end of the league to said it and they have made a huge banner "we have fucked Spurs, again..." just for that event. :depressed

:pctoss

[Mr. Body]

Tau's franchise has happily raped the Spurs for summers on end.

[kaji157]

Tau's franchise has happily raped the Spurs for summers on end.

The Spurs have raped themselves, it took Houston one week and 3 millions to land Scola, Spurs all-worshiped front office couldn´t do it in 5 years.

By the way, Houston is interested in Splitter Rights, Morey has said that he would like to have him and is willing to trade picks or money for them, actually Houston has nothing we want (they are not giving us Landry for him) but it could be funny to see if Houston lands goes on to UnLandable Redux with Splitter.

[T Park]

The Spurs have raped themselves, it took Houston one week and 3 millions to land Scola, Spurs all-worshiped front office couldn´t do it in 5 years.

By the way, Houston is interested in Splitter Rights, Morey has said that he would like to have him and is willing to trade picks or money for them, actually Houston has nothing we want (they are not giving us Landry for him) but it could be funny to see if Houston lands goes on to UnLandable Redux with Splitter.


How did the Spurs rape themselves on the Splitter deal please.

[ChumpDumper]

By the way, Houston is interested in Splitter Rights, Morey has said that he would like to have him and is willing to trade picks or money for them,I'm sure you have a link for this.

[T Park]

Well thats just fantastic.

Wonder if Biedrins can be had.

[SenorSpur]

Maybe Houston will be willing to give back Scola :-(

[Mr. Body]

Maybe Houston will be willing to give back Scola :-(

:lol That's not how prison rape works.

[kaji157]

How did the Spurs rape themselves on the Splitter deal please.

Basically from what i´ve learned from the Scola experience two things go often againts the Spurs, first of all, the treatment, Scola was publicly quoted saying that they only contacted him by email, you know, that´s not very polite, now in this thread there are some saying that Splitter decided after speaking to RC, well then is just more about this. Secondly, i think the Spurs are not selling the NBA correctly in all the good it have done to him they must speculate with marketing at some point because of the money it attracts, Scola was driven by the image rights to Houston because even when Houston was paying him 3 million dollars he received extra money in image rights and they benefits of playing alongside yao.

Later on Scola signed a shoe deal with anta (chinese shoes).

[Holt's Cat]

The Spurs actually want Splitter. Naturally they want the guy limited by the rookie scale and don't want the guy who they can spend the MLE on, but I digress.

[Holt's Cat]

The Spurs have raped themselves, it took Houston one week and 3 millions to land Scola, Spurs all-worshiped front office couldn´t do it in 5 years.

By the way, Houston is interested in Splitter Rights, Morey has said that he would like to have him and is willing to trade picks or money for them, actually Houston has nothing we want (they are not giving us Landry for him) but it could be funny to see if Houston lands goes on to UnLandable Redux with Splitter.

For the last time: the Spurs didn't want Scola.

[greens]

Wait, so that means Tiago is not coming this season to the Spurs?

[Bartleby]

After today's game, Pete Mickael, a player of Tau, said that Splitter has signed a two year extension. When journalists ask Splitter to give a confirmation of that he said that they had to be patient.

While it makes few doubts that Splitter will sign with Tau, I wonder why they handle it like that.
If Splitter has signed his extension, why didn't they say it ?
If no, why his teammate says that he has signed it and what are they waiting to sign it ?

Maybe he is close to signing but hasn't ironed out all the details or still has some reservations. I can't imagine him holding out for even more money, but who knows . . .

Or, maybe he wants to hear what the Spurs have to say before he tells them to fuck off.

Or, maybe he isn't planning to sign with Tau after all, but because he doesn't want his plans to be a distraction for his team right now he is making his intentions ambiguous (and his teammates are making assumptions because of this).

I'm hoping for the last of these three scenarios, but right now that sounds like the long shot.

[Holt's Cat]

Yeah, the long shot is he's leaving but doesn't want his teammates to think he's leaving while they're in the playoffs so he tells them he's staying. Again, a long shot.

[AFBlue]

Yeah, the long shot is he's leaving but doesn't want his teammates to think he's leaving while they're in the playoffs so he tells them he's staying. Again, a long shot.

I'd rather assume he's gone....that way my spirits won't be broken twice. And if he comes over, I will actually attempt this (:downspin:) in real life.

[Indazone]

The Spurs have raped themselves, it took Houston one week and 3 millions to land Scola, Spurs all-worshiped front office couldn´t do it in 5 years.

By the way, Houston is interested in Splitter Rights, Morey has said that he would like to have him and is willing to trade picks or money for them, actually Houston has nothing we want (they are not giving us Landry for him) but it could be funny to see if Houston lands goes on to UnLandable Redux with Splitter.

Why not, all we had to do is offer cash last time and Spanoulis who promptly went home. RC has set a precedent of what he's willing to do. Face it your front office likes Daryl Morey and will trade with the Rockets. LOL Give us Splitter and we'll give you more cash :)

[Holt's Cat]

The Spurs didn't want Scola and they didn't want to pay the lux tax for Jackie Butler. Now they are $20 mil under that threshold. So, uh, no.

[Indazone]

If you give us Splitter we'll make it worth your while. You can be $25 million under the threshold :lmao

[jag]

For the last time: the Spurs didn't want Scola.

They didn't want scola because they thought Splitter would work better with Duncan....

oh, the irony.

[Mr. Body]

Sad to say, Rockets fans have a right to smack us around on this one.

[Indazone]

Splitter would work pretty well with Yao with Scola on the other side don'tcha think? LOL

[Holt's Cat]

They didn't want scola because they thought Splitter would work better with Duncan....

oh, the irony.

No doubt.

[K-State Spur]

They didn't want scola because they thought Splitter would work better with Duncan....

oh, the irony.

It's likely proven to be a mistake, but that doesn't mean that their underlying assumption was wrong.

[jag]

Splitter would work pretty well with Yao with Scola on the other side don'tcha think? LOL

I think the first round has been a bitch, that's what i think.

[Indazone]

Our top two draft picks and cash for Splitter. Hell, we'll even give you Luther Head as a throw in.

[jag]

It's likely proven to be a mistake, but that doesn't mean that their underlying assumption was wrong.

oh, i dont disagree with you at all...i'm just saying that if Splitter ends up staying in Spain it's going to be very ironic.

[Indazone]

Splitter can come to Houston. We got a big fat shoe contract waiting for him

[completely deck]

Splitter can come to Houston. We got a big fat shoe contract waiting for him

Holy shit man, we get it, you want Splitter. It got old the first time you said it.

[mikekim]

I haven't really been following this thread...but does anyone know how big of an effort the Spurs made to try to convince him to sign despite Tau's offer?

I know we had a "Spurs official" over there, but what the hell was this guy doing?

Is Pop going over there? I mean, if he personally flew to "court" Damon Stoudamire...

[Bartleby]

According to Rockets fan the Spurs only send emails.

[exstatic]

IIs Pop going over there? I mean, if he personally flew to "court" Damon Stoudamire...

Pop and the Spurs were in the playoffs until Thursday, dumbass. When, exactly, was he supposed to fly 8 timezones and chat with some moody Brazilian who's already said he's not coming?

[mystargtr34]

Biedrins > Splitter at shotblocking. Splitter averaged less than a block per game ... in Euroleague.

In general, Biedrins >>>>>>>>> Splitter. Splitter is good but Biedrins is a younger and would be even more of a stud right now if he played for anyone other than Nellie.

I'll try to think of a good comparison for Splitter ... haven't thought of one yet.

Biedrins and Splitter isnt a good comparison... theyre completely different players.

Biedrins get his points of put backs and dunks, and hes more athletic and a much better shot blocker.

Like i said earlier, if you look at this clip

http://acbtv.acb.com/video/693

He shows more post moves in that 1 minute clip that Biedrins has shown in his entire career. For a guy whos 7 feet in shoes and probably about 250, he shows great athleticism... nothing like Biedrins, but hes far more polished.

Splitter is only a year older than Biedrins, and im not sure what you mean by Biedrins would be better if he didnt play for Nellie, i would think the run and gun style would suit his game pretty well given his offensive limitations and athleticism, as well as inflating his stats.

Biedrins would be a great fit alongside Timmy... but i would definately take Tiago.

[mystargtr34]

After today's game, Pete Mickael, a player of Tau, said that Splitter has signed a two year extension. When journalists ask Splitter to give a confirmation of that he said that they had to be patient.

While it makes few doubts that Splitter will sign with Tau, I wonder why they handle it like that.
If Splitter has signed his extension, why didn't they say it ?
If no, why his teammate says that he has signed it and what are they waiting to sign it ?

My guess : They are waiting the end of the league to said it and they have made a huge banner "we have fucked Spurs, again..." just for that event. :depressed

That sux, but i think all the talk of trading him away is stupid... any way you look at it, we got a steal with this guy and hes only 22, the Scola situation was completely different.

That opinion only stand if the Spurs decide to buy him out for 500k after the end of his first year, essentially allowing him to get 'paid' for one year. That could allow them to concentrate on developing and giving minutes to Ian.

Although i dont like this idea, being that it would put Splitter a year back, but i can see the thinking in it.

[Harry Callahan]

Basically from what i´ve learned from the Scola experience two things go often againts the Spurs, first of all, the treatment, Scola was publicly quoted saying that they only contacted him by email, you know, that´s not very polite, now in this thread there are some saying that Splitter decided after speaking to RC, well then is just more about this. Secondly, i think the Spurs are not selling the NBA correctly in all the good it have done to him they must speculate with marketing at some point because of the money it attracts, Scola was driven by the image rights to Houston because even when Houston was paying him 3 million dollars he received extra money in image rights and they benefits of playing alongside yao.

Later on Scola signed a shoe deal with anta (chinese shoes).

Splitter has already been to San Antonio in person and told everyone how he was looking forward to playing here in 08 (That was last summer I think).

[ElNono]

I would even bet that the Rockets guaranteed Scola to be part of the first team, some playing time at least early in the season, and that they wouldn't send him to the NBDL.
We know the Spurs won't do that, but that might be the difference to make him comfortable enough to come over.

[Harry Callahan]

That sux, but i think all the talk of trading him away is stupid... any way you look at it, we got a steal with this guy and hes only 22, the Scola situation was completely different.

That opinion only stand if the Spurs decide to buy him out for 500k after the end of his first year, essentially allowing him to get 'paid' for one year. That could allow them to concentrate on developing and giving minutes to Ian.

Although i dont like this idea, being that it would put Splitter a year back, but i can see the thinking in it.

Breaking in two guys at the same time (essentially rookies) might be tough, but the Spurs need to get as many of their assets on the team as soon as possible to get younger.

You just hope Splitter is smart about this and gets over here sooner rather than later. Dicking around and staying in the minor leagues too long will cost him a lot of money if he can play (and most people seem to think he can play). The Spurs should sweet talk this dude and make him feel wanted.

Signing a two year deal is nice and all in Europe, but if he got hurt seriously over there and had only two years guaranteed, there is also a potential loss of big money in the long run.

All we heard last summer was that Splitter had a low buyout and the Spurs would have much less trouble getting him over here than that other guy. Now it doesn't look that way.

No Euros until the second round this year, if at all.

[mystargtr34]

Breaking in two guys at the same time (essentially rookies) might be tough, but the Spurs need to get as many of their assets on the team as soon as possible to get younger.

You just hope Splitter is smart about this and gets over here sooner rather than later. Dicking around and staying in the minor leagues too long will cost him a lot of money if he can play (and most people seem to think he can play). The Spurs should sweet talk this dude and make him feel wanted.

Signing a two year deal is nice and all in Europe, but if he got hurt seriously over there and had only two years guaranteed, there is also a potential loss of big money in the long run.

All we heard last summer was that Splitter had a low buyout and the Spurs would have much less trouble getting him over here than that other guy. Now it doesn't look that way.

No Euros until the second round this year, if at all.

Agree, we never know maybe Pop and co. told Tiago to sign the deal and made an agreement with Tau to reduce the buyout after one year. Allowing them to concentrate on Ian.

[E20]

Hopefully this doesn't unfold like the Scola situation. The dude stays with Tau for like 5 years, Spurs never buy his contract out and then he gets traded.

[Harry Callahan]

Agree, we never know maybe Pop and co. told Tiago to sign the deal and made an agreement with Tau to reduce the buyout after one year. Allowing them to concentrate on Ian.

One of my favorite Jerry Jones quotes is "Keep your powder dry". IOW, don't get mad at Splitter and try and work with him to get him over here now or later.

[ChumpDumper]

One of my favorite Jerry Jones quotes is "Keep your powder dry". IOW, don't get mad at Splitter and try and work with him to get him over here now or later.Fuck Splitter. If he re-signed with Tau, he's dead to me.

[T Park]

Yeah, I'm with Chump.

His whole story and prattle about "The NBA being my dream" Was obviously just a ruse.

When did a person's word become flexible because of money?

Fuck that.

[ChumpDumper]

Fuck Splitter. If he re-signed with Tau, he's dead to me.















Until he's a Spur.

I am a homer, after all.

[shaq_h8ter]

Ok, let me get this right.

The Spurs traded Scola, an at the least servicable PF, to the Rockets and the Rockets signed him for 3 Mill for 3 years.

Then turn around and sign Matt Bonner, a nice player but a PF want'a-be SF, for 3 Mill for 3 years?!

I'm sorry but WTF were they thinking!

I thought they traded Scola becuase they couldn't give him enough money.

Manu and Tony are great but our team at the end of day/playoffs, lives and dies in the low post.

[T Park]

Ok, let me get this right.

The Spurs traded Scola, an at the least servicable PF, to the Rockets and the Rockets signed him for 3 Mill for 3 years.

Then turn around and sign Matt Bonner, a nice player but a PF want'a-be SF, for 3 Mill for 3 years?!

I'm sorry but WTF were they thinking!

I thought they traded Scola becuase they couldn't give him enough money.

Manu and Tony are great but our team at the end of day/playoffs, lives and dies in the low post.

They traded Scola because they felt Splitter was a better fit.

[ChumpDumper]

Ok, let me get this right.

The Spurs traded Scola, an at the least servicable PF, to the Rockets and the Rockets signed him for 3 Mill for 3 years.

Then turn around and sign Matt Bonner, a nice player but a PF want'a-be SF, for 3 Mill for 3 years?!Your story is incomplete.

[Mr. Body]

Ok, let me get this right.

The Spurs traded Scola, an at the least servicable PF, to the Rockets and the Rockets signed him for 3 Mill for 3 years.

Then turn around and sign Matt Bonner, a nice player but a PF want'a-be SF, for 3 Mill for 3 years?!

I'm sorry but WTF were they thinking!

I thought they traded Scola becuase they couldn't give him enough money.

Manu and Tony are great but our team at the end of day/playoffs, lives and dies in the low post.

Traded Scola in a confluence of two things:

1. Thought Bonner was a better fit for the system.

2. Thought Scola was expendable due to the Splitter draft.

Both were wrong.

1. They saw Bonner's skill set only (hustler, shooter, rebounder) and confused that with talent. Corporate knowledge is not the only knowledge/talent there is.

2. Splitter's presence in no way should impact keeping Scola. Talent is talent, he had proven a hard-worker who could fit in in any situation.

[ChumpDumper]

Traded Scola in a confluence of two things:

1. Thought Bonner was a better fit for the system.

2. Thought Scola was expendable due to the Splitter draft.

Both were wrong.

1. They saw Bonner's skill set only (hustler, shooter, rebounder) and confused that with talent. Corporate knowledge is not the only knowledge/talent there is.

2. Splitter's presence in no way should impact keeping Scola. Talent is talent, he had proven a hard-worker who could fit in in any situation.Also incomplete.

[Mr. Body]

It's a pretty fair assessment.

Oh, I forgot the money angle? No, that's covered with Bonner's signing. That's pretty much it.

[ChumpDumper]

It's a pretty fair assessment.

Oh, I forgot the money angle? No, that's covered with Bonner's signing. That's pretty much it.Nope.

Incomplete.

[ElNono]

They traded Scola because they felt Splitter was a better fit.

That's what the Spurs said anyways. They never gave the guy a chance. He was younger and more talented than Oberto when we signed Oberto. I think that will go as one of the biggest screw ups this FO has done.

[Balance]

http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Tiago-Splitter-%22My-team-knows-that-I-want-to-go-to-the-NBA-%22-2039/

But he has the right to chance his mind...

[mikekim]

Pop and the Spurs were in the playoffs until Thursday, dumbass. When, exactly, was he supposed to fly 8 timezones and chat with some moody Brazilian who's already said he's not coming?

All right, shithead, thanks for pointing that out.

I was talking about the future. Is he flying over there to talk to him (as in...the future)? Or at least a personal phone call?

I said I haven't really been following the thread and as far as I know, the contract with Tau hasn't been signed and all reports have been "unofficial."

So does anyone besides this prick know if Pop or anyone in the front office is looking at this as critical enough to go out and meet with him or personally speak with him?

[ChumpDumper]

I'm sure they already had someone over there, and were sending more over to watch the finals.

[kobyz]

i think about it and understand that the TAU coach is SPAHIA who coach the spurs summer league and he a good friend of pop, and now he fuck us.

[I am Emoticon]

Fuck Splitter.

DAMN Splitter and Fuck Tau

:toast

[angelbelow]

we should just buy tau.

[Indazone]

Spurs couldn't afford Tau

[Indazone]

Throughout this entire thread. Where's Killbill!! This thread should be more than the guy can resist lol.

[Bartleby]

He has posted on several pages of this thread already. Don't encourage him.

[Buddy Holly]

Indazone is still posting in this thread? Holy shit...

[Indazone]

Cause you know that Daryl Morey is gonna offer RC some popcorn and a bag of chips for Splitter. He'll paint a glorious picture of why it's a good idea and before you know it...Splitter will be in a Red uniform lol.

[Bartleby]

Cause you know that Daryl Morey is gonna offer RC some popcorn and a bag of chips for Splitter. He'll paint a glorious picture of why it's a good idea and before you know it...Splitter will be in a Red uniform lol.

The Spurs have done enough to help your shitty ass team try to make it out of the first round. Just let it go.

[ChumpDumper]

That may have been funny the first time you made that joke, but not the following 200.

[temujin]

Let's see.

You are are about to start the Spanish finals.
You did OK in the Euroleague, but don't want to come home empty at the end of the season.

The Tau FO comes to you and offers you a multi-millions (Euro) deal.

You just tell them to go to hell, you don't care about them and that you want to get out of Basque country so badly, that you will accept 20% of what Tau offers and go to San Antonio (which is to NBA what Tau is to Euroleague, marketwise).

People in Vitoria are very happy, they cheer you up, your teammates are enthusiastic and the whole team is excited to enter the finals.

What a smart guy you are.


Or.

You tell them you are "considering" the offer, which is the real minimum for their generosity, wait untill you win the finals, you contribute a LOT in doing that, and while everyone is happy, you just mention that you might go to S. Antonio.

Provided that the Spurs FO wants you seriously.

Because if they want you as badly as they wanted Scola, you tell the NBA folks that Tau's offer is excellent and wave good bye to everyone for two years. At the END of those two years, you will still be younger than Scola was when he entered the NBA, a lot richer, and you are ready to start on a bad team (The Spurs will have traded you along Oberto, to get rid of his 3.5 M/year contract). Or play 20' as a rookie, even if that means seriously biting on Duncan's minutes.

Life is that simple.

[Bartleby]

The Spurs need Splitter now, not two years from now. If he wants to stay with Tau for two more years the Spurs should tell him to go to Hell. It's that simple.

[The Franchise]

I think the guy is signing this two year contract as insurance. He is getting his money now so when he comes over later there are no what if scenarios. What if he gets over here and Pop sticks him in the doghouse? What if he comes over here and gets hurt etc.That big money after his rookie deal disappears and he is ass out. He is doing the right thing. Me first the Spurs second. It sucks as a fan but he has kids to feed.:p: Look at Beno for example. He struggled as a Spur and got stuck in Pops basement. Nobody wanted to touch him this past summer and it was under the assumption that he couldn't play. The Kings took a chance and he looked like Tony Parker this year for them and is looking at a nice payday this summer. The kid seems like he just wants to get set financially before he steps into an alien environment and a big pay cut.

[Spur-Addict]

we should just buy tau.

That's a genius idea, I doubt it happens.

[koopa]

That's a genius idea, I doubt it happens.

it won't, holt can barely afford to pay the spurs, plus he needs that extra money for his booze

[Spur-Addict]

it won't, holt can barely afford to pay the spurs, plus he needs that extra money for his booze

:lmao....:lmao....:drunk......:lmao

[Big P]

:lmao....:lmao....:drunk......:lmao

That's wrong on so many levels.

[Spur-Addict]

That's wrong on so many levels.

Wrong? What's wrong about it? Oh, I see, Holt is viewing this thread so I should apologize right? Or, i'm not permitted to laugh at jokes since this isn't a democracy. Or, .....or I could act like i actually care about what you say....

:flipoff

[ChumpDumper]

It's wrong because he can afford to pay the Spurs AND buy all the booze he wants.

Whether he actually does is subject to speculation in which I will not participate.

[SPARKY]

It's wrong because he can afford to pay the Spurs AND buy all the booze he wants.

Whether he actually does is subject to speculation in which I will not participate.

Exactly. How many of his fellow NBA owners would balk at paying the lux tax to improve a championship team? To have the sweetheart arena deal he enjoys? To not have players causing off court criminal drama? etc

[Ginobilly]

Fuck Splitter and his Paella eating ass!! Let that fucker stay in Spain. What we need to start drafting is some Americans! Or how about that Mexican kid who crossed over kobe and then shot a 3 in his face in the Olympic game a few years ago? Is he available?:rollin

[ChumpDumper]

Exactly. How many of his fellow NBA owners would balk at paying the lux tax to improve a championship team? To have the sweetheart arena deal he enjoys? To not have players causing off court criminal drama? etcMost of them.

That's just the way it is.

[Spur-Addict]

Exactly. How many of his fellow NBA owners would balk at paying the lux tax to improve a championship team? To have the sweetheart arena deal he enjoys? To not have players causing off court criminal drama? etc

If the man is cheap what can we ever do? At least there is a great product already out there. Also, a very classy product at that. I'm sure he can afford an extra 15Mil on the Lux though. We need it now more than ever.

[ChumpDumper]

Even if they were willing, ownership would be hard pressed to reach an $85 million payroll next season

[SPARKY]

Most of them.

That's just the way it is.

Yeah. I'm resigned to that fact. It's like the nonsensical bitching about RC. All in all, RC's done a fine job as GM. Yes, there are some points you can hit him on, but given the constraints he's done a very good job. It is what it is. If the championship era is really over and you're a fan only because you expect to cheer on a championship team every season then you should probably talk with a professional about that.

[SpurOutofTownFan]

I think the guy is signing this two year contract as insurance. He is getting his money now so when he comes over later there are no what if scenarios. What if he gets over here and Pop sticks him in the doghouse? What if he comes over here and gets hurt etc.That big money after his rookie deal disappears and he is ass out. He is doing the right thing. Me first the Spurs second. It sucks as a fan but he has kids to feed.:p: Look at Beno for example. He struggled as a Spur and got stuck in Pops basement. Nobody wanted to touch him this past summer and it was under the assumption that he couldn't play. The Kings took a chance and he looked like Tony Parker this year for them and is looking at a nice payday this summer. The kid seems like he just wants to get set financially before he steps into an alien environment and a big pay cut.

a nice post -

Let me add that Tau is owning the Spurs since the Scola issue. The Spurs tried getting Scola in before 2008 but the BO clause was the dagger.

European clubs are getting smarter about the NBA now. They have their currency at their favor and most of all, they aren't going to get rid of their work like that and give them away for free. They figured out the NBA was making them spend money and resources building up their guys and with zero investment the idea was to bring them over to the NBA offering the maximum allowed by the league. So you would spend all of that to have the guy later on snatched by a foreign club.

This is a no-brainer for Splitter and his family - we can forget about him now unless the spurs pay him the 900K now and commit (in writing) to sign him in 2009-2010 for 5 years with guarantee x amount of millions of dollars. If they can't guarantee this they its all over.

[Spur-Addict]

Even if they were willing, ownership would be hard pressed to reach an $85 million payroll next season

Where there is a will etc......

[SPARKY]

a nice post -

Let me add that Tau is owning the Spurs since the Scola issue. The Spurs tried getting Scola in before 2008 but the BO clause was the dagger.

European clubs are getting smarter about the NBA now. They have their currency at their favor and most of all, they aren't going to get rid of their work like that and give them away for free. They figured out the NBA was making them spend money and resources building up their guys and with zero investment the idea was to bring them over to the NBA offering the maximum allowed by the league. So you would spend all of that to have the guy later on snatched by a foreign club.

This is a no-brainer for Splitter and his family - we can forget about him now unless the spurs pay him the 900K now and commit (in writing) to sign him in 2009-2010 for 5 years with guarantee x amount of millions of dollars. If they can't guarantee this they its all over.

The exchange rate is an issue, but the major issue is the rookie scale.

[SpurOutofTownFan]

Even if they were willing, ownership would be hard pressed to reach an $85 million payroll next season

If I have 200 millions I would make an offer to buy the franchise.. you Chump would be my GM. what do you think? we go Cuban on all these guys.

[ChumpDumper]

If I have 200 millions I would make an offer to buy the franchise.. you Chump would be my GM. what do you think? we go Cuban on all these guys.Unfortunately, that amount wouldn't get you halfway to a purchase price.

[SPARKY]

Yeah, Holt's sitting on a nice cap gain.

[SpurOutofTownFan]

Unfortunately, that amount wouldn't get you halfway to a purchase price.

Come on! you wouldn't ask for a huge salary I guess!

[ChumpDumper]

I would be extraordinarily cheap, relatively speaking. Let me know when you get the cash.

[Birn]

It doesn't matter if Holt were the richest man in the world. Splitter's salary is slotted and pre-determined by the NBA Rookie Scale. It has nothing to do with Holt. Splitter had no choice but to accept the Tau offer since it is 8X the salary he was slotted to receive from his rookie contract. Holt couldn't pay him more if he wanted to because the rules prohibit it. The same thing is happening with the Blazers and Rudy Fernandez.

[clubalien]

heb contract ;/

[Indazone]

The players union and the NBA are going to have to get together this summer to decide what to do with the rookie salary cap.

[SpurOutofTownFan]

The players union and the NBA are going to have to get together this summer to decide what to do with the rookie salary cap.

The problem is the definition of "rookie". Is a guy who is already a pro for several years outside the US a rookie? can you compare him with a guy fresh off HS or College? That's the sweet in it - US teams were grabbing European players with zero investment in grooming them. Europe just got smarter.

If the league will continue to allow US teams to get players overseas then they need not apply that rule to those players. They can leave it for College and HS in the US.

[DaDakota]

It is NOT a ROOKIE scale or cap, it is a draft cap, and only players drafted in the first round are suceptible to it.

For instance, Luis Scola was a rookie, but he earned about 2.9 million, which is a lot more than players drafted late in the first round could get.

Something has to be done about players that are already pros elsewhere, and it may mean that a lot of USA high school players forgoe college and go straight to the Euroleagues instead of the NCAA....

DD

[ChumpDumper]

Something has to be done about players that are already pros elsewhere, and it may mean that a lot of USA high school players forgoe college and go straight to the Euroleagues instead of the NCAA....I'm all for that. If you don't plan on getting an education why waste your time?

[ElNono]

The players union and the NBA are going to have to get together this summer to decide what to do with the rookie salary cap.

The union at least is not going to do a damn thing.
They were already bitching about how many foreigners were working in the league, and how that took away work from American veterans.
I also don't think the NBA has any incentive to start funding other leagues around the world that they have no control of, by allowing teams to pay big lumps of money for foreign players.

[Indazone]

Well I suppose the solution maybe teams have to figure this out for themselves the hard way. If you draft someone first round you're gonna get screwed if they are a pro from FIBA because they can get more money at home. They should probably make all the guys from International Ball exempt from even being in the draft. Just bring them over and pay them as professionals and have them count against the cap. Everyone else who is an amateur straight from college or has never played in the FIBA should be classified as a rookie. Everyone else should be classifed as professional. It's the only way to compete against the Euroleague if they are paying 8x the salary for guys like Splitter and get them here when you need them.

[Buddy Holly]

Well I suppose the solution maybe teams have to figure this out for themselves the hard way. If you draft someone first round you're gonna get screwed if they are a pro from FIBA because they can get more money at home. They should probably make all the guys from International Ball exempt from even being in the draft. Just bring them over and pay them as professionals and have them count against the cap. Everyone else who is an amateur straight from college or has never played in the FIBA should be classified as a rookie. Everyone else should be classifed as professional. It's the only way to compete against the Euroleague if they are paying 8x the salary for guys like Splitter and get them here when you need them.

All that because one player got a FIBA record high two year 8 million dollar deal? :rollin

If some FIBA hot shot is drafted in the top 5, he's making 6-8 million for three seasons. If they're drafted top 20 they're at least making over a million per year for three years.

[ducks]

Most of them.

That's just the way it is.

yes
last year 4 teams paid the tax right?
spurs were the only ones to make it out of the first round that paid the tax to:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol

[Indazone]

All that because one player got a FIBA record high two year 8 million dollar deal? :rollin

If some FIBA hot shot is drafted in the top 5, he's making 6-8 million for three seasons. If they're drafted top 20 they're at least making over a million per year for three years.

Hey Buddy! won't be the last one!!!

[CaptainLate]

The U.S. dollar is losing its milk by the minute,

Europeans are going to stop cumming to the NBA.

Our currency is shooting blanks compared to the Euro, and it is only going to get worse.

Agreed. The USD is being manipulated to crash in order to intro the "Amero" (NorthAmerican equivalent of the Euro). Google "Amero".

Moses Stern needs to address this. "Rookie" salaries for overseas players needs adjusting.

[Tully365]

Originally Posted by Indazone
Well I suppose the solution maybe teams have to figure this out for themselves the hard way. If you draft someone first round you're gonna get screwed if they are a pro from FIBA because they can get more money at home. They should probably make all the guys from International Ball exempt from even being in the draft. Just bring them over and pay them as professionals and have them count against the cap. Everyone else who is an amateur straight from college or has never played in the FIBA should be classified as a rookie. Everyone else should be classifed as professional. It's the only way to compete against the Euroleague if they are paying 8x the salary for guys like Splitter and get them here when you need them.

* * * * *
The NBA would never do this, because then hordes of US players would skip college to play one year in Europe in an attempt to avoid the draft position salary rules so they could sign for more money as NBA rookies. It would ruin college basketball, get lots of people mad, etc... Ah, loopholes.... they always make life interesting...

[tmtcsc]

Is it official ? Are the playoffs over ? Did he re-sign for 2 years with Tau ? I have seen lots of posts or reports saying he is not coming. I thought we still had a shot to try and convince him to come over now.

I know its not likely but we still had a chance.

[Obstructed_View]

The only reason to delay reporting it is because it's either got a snag or because he's stalling until after the season to announce the bad news, and if he's telling his teammates that he's going to sign it (and they are blabbing it to the reporters) but he's not commenting then it sounds again like he's just trying to delay the announcement.

Not having seen an official announcement, I think there's still reason to hold out hope. He knows he's going to start if he comes to the NBA. Unless I'm mistaken, the Spurs will have a lot of money to spend when his rookie contract is up, but only if he jumps now.

[remingtonbo2001]

Still got a chance.


Believe.

[MarceloM!]

I remember Scola Trade. Now, similar thing with Tiago. He is a very good choice for a future. Tiago is a very good player. Don't repeat the mistake.

[stxspurs]

im sure he will eventually beat out oberto/bonner

[Indazone]

Still got a chance.


Believe.

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2005/writers/bill_syken/07/21/daily.blog/p1_dumb.jpg

I still got a chance!

[Bruno]

Season is finished for Tau and Splitter.
They sweep Barcelona 3-0 in the Spanish league final and Tau won its first main title since 2002.

I guess that it's time now to have some bad news for Spurs from Splitter. :depressed

[objective]

I guess the slim hope is that now with an ACB title Splitter might feel he has nothing left to accomplish there. That's if he ignores euroleague.

So maybe he'll want the challenge of the NBA?

maybe?

:hang

[Marcus Bryant]

The only hope is that he didn't want to break the bad news to his team until after the season. Hope.

[ChumpDumper]

At least it looks like we'll know Splitter's status before the draft. The Spurs can adjust their draft strategy accordingly, if needed.

[Borosai]

I just got off the phone with Splitter, and he told me the Spurs still have a chance, but they will have to send him the Coyote's outfit to seal the deal. Sounds reasonable.

[remingtonbo2001]

I just got off the phone with Splitter, and he told me the Spurs still have a chance, but they will have to send him the Coyote's outfit to seal the deal. Sounds reasonable.

Done and Done.

[Ocotillo]

At least it looks like we'll know Splitter's status before the draft. The Spurs can adjust their draft strategy accordingly, if needed.

Good point.

[mystargtr34]

Any minute now....

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Hopefully.

[T Park]

I have no life

[mystargtr34]

Oh by the way.... 11 points on 3-6shooting 4 boards 3 assists and 2 blocks in 25 minutes in the Game 3 series clinching win against Barcelona last night.

[mystargtr34]

Also got to the line 7 times and made 5.

The should go through him a little more...

[Russ]

The Spurs should get proactive and creative -- they're usual tack with foreign players is to sit back and wait to "confer the gift" of Spurdom if they so choose.

Won't work anymore in this modern world.

The Spurs need to camp outside where this kid lives and present him with shoe deal plans and ancillary income opportunities. They need to sell him on the NBA and his chance to rise to the top of his profession. They need to recruit him like Tarkanian would go after a kid in reform school. They need to pursue him like Pop went after Duncan in 2000.

It's time to show some grit and determination to secure the future. :flag:

[exstatic]

Also got to the line 7 times and made 5.

They should go through him a little more...

They will...next year.

[smrattler]

You think he'd be able to say no if Pop showed up tomorrow and hand delivered him a bottle of wine and a low key "we want you" speach?

Probably but that would be our only chance I think.

[ElNono]

Back in '04, I remember Scola telling Craig Sager that RC Bufford used to email him after every game he played, win or lose, telling him his rebounding was not good enough, you need to make your freethrows, etc etc etc. It got to the point where Scola told Craig he was tired of the negativity. Now, I don't know if that was an isolated case. But if that's the way we're enticing our draft picks to come over, I can see where they might have a problem. After all, that's going to be your boss right there...

[exstatic]

Back in '04, I remember Scola telling Craig Sager that RC Bufford used to email him after every game he played, win or lose, telling him his rebounding was not good enough, you need to make your freethrows, etc etc etc. It got to the point where Scola told Craig he was tired of the negativity. Now, I don't know if that was an isolated case. But if that's the way we're enticing our draft picks to come over, I can see where they might have a problem. After all, that's going to be your boss right there...

Scola's rebounding is quite possibly the weakest part of his game. His FT shooting sucks, too. If he got all boo hooey about a few emails, Pop probably would have made him cry at the first practice.

It's probably good that we found out now that Splitter is a liar rather than turn a snake loose in the clubhouse.

I'm beginning to think that we mined out all of the Euros with testicles by taking Manu and Tony.

[T Park]

Back in '04, I remember Scola telling Craig Sager that RC Bufford used to email him after every game he played, win or lose, telling him his rebounding was not good enough, you need to make your freethrows, etc etc etc. It got to the point where Scola told Craig he was tired of the negativity. Now, I don't know if that was an isolated case. But if that's the way we're enticing our draft picks to come over, I can see where they might have a problem. After all, that's going to be your boss right there...

sniff

awww the poor wittle pro player got told to improve on something.

God grow a pair.

[ElNono]

Scola's rebounding is quite possibly the weakest part of his game. His FT shooting sucks, too. If he got all boo hooey about a few emails, Pop probably would have made him cry at the first practice.

It's probably good that we found out now that Splitter is a liar rather than turn a snake loose in the clubhouse.

I'm beginning to think that we mined out all of the Euros with testicles by taking Manu and Tony.

Funny you mention that because Scola in his rookie year had more rebounds per game and better free throw % than our starting center.

I'm just wondering if that's how we're enticing our draft picks to come over. By telling them they're not good enough...

[blaze89]

Anything official?:wakeup

[exstatic]

Funny you mention that because Scola in his rookie year had more rebounds per game and better free throw % than our starting center.

I'm just wondering if that's how we're enticing our draft picks to come over. By telling them they're not good enough...

Just the fact that you're comparing him to our scrubb-ass, can't jump over a phone book center that everyone acknowledges needs replacing speaks volumes. Fabricio is five years older and played Scola's ass to a draw. Ask David West if he isn't a tough hombre, too.

[BOHOLANO#21]

latest news:
H.E.B is reportedly offering Splitter endorsement money for $4 million if he will play for the spurs.

[midnightpulp]

latest news:
H.E.B is reportedly offering Splitter endorsement money for $4 million if he will play for the spurs.

Really?

Any links? Or this on San Antonio local radio?

[Indazone]

you know, this is the only way around the rookie cap. Endorsement money to come over and play. So basically, now he is up to 6 million a year making it 18 million dollars total vs Tau's offer at 16 million dollars. Hmm maybe your owner is actually on the ball after all.

The extra 2 million probably offsets the extra perks that Tau would offer like the home, the taxes paid etc. So I view this as a matching offer.

[Marcus Bryant]

VIA is apparently willing to offer him $5 mil per for 4 years.

[Marcus Bryant]

ADULT VIDEO is offering a 10% discount.

[wireonfire]

Just the fact that you're comparing him to our scrubb-ass, can't jump over a phone book center that everyone acknowledges needs replacing speaks volumes. Fabricio is five years older and played Scola's ass to a draw. Ask David West if he isn't a tough hombre, too.

Scola averaged more rebounds than David West in the playoffs, 9.3 in 36.7 minutes vs 8.5 in 40.4. His regular season rebounding efficiency is higher than West's too.

[BOHOLANO#21]

Scola averaged more rebounds than David West in the playoffs, 9.3 in 36.7 minutes vs 8.5 in 40.4. His regular season rebounding efficiency is higher than West's too.
Scola's number is better than West but the Rockets still can't get out of the first round. what's the point?

[Mr. Body]

Free mangos for Tiago.

[Mr. Body]

Scola averaged more rebounds than David West in the playoffs, 9.3 in 36.7 minutes vs 8.5 in 40.4. His regular season rebounding efficiency is higher than West's too.

I could fucking shoot myself.

[exstatic]

Scola averaged more rebounds than David West in the playoffs, 9.3 in 36.7 minutes vs 8.5 in 40.4. His regular season rebounding efficiency is higher than West's too.

A six game sample is statistically insignificant.

[tp2021]

please stop making this into a scola thread!
it's about scola 2.0!

[T Park]

I could fucking shoot myself.

i could provide the 45.

[Indazone]

I still don't think Tiago is coming over..but this offer certainly makes it more interesting. What's Stopping Tau from reaching deeper into their pockets to counteroffer and then getting some local business to offer endorsement money too?

[Mr. Body]

i could provide the 45.

No thanks. I might accidentally 'miss'.

[Mr. Body]

I still don't think Tiago is coming over..but this offer certainly makes it more interesting. What's Stopping Tau from reaching deeper into their pockets to counteroffer and then getting some local business to offer endorsement money too?

Nothing. Maybe the Rockets can offer money for him to stay, too?

[angelbelow]

guys stay positive. many fans from brazil are saying hes committed to the spurs. lets hope for the best guys!

[T Park]

guys stay positive. many fans from brazil are saying hes committed to the spurs. lets hope for the best guys!

fans don't make me hopefull

people in the organization and people here would :)

[T Park]

latest news:
H.E.B is reportedly offering Splitter endorsement money for $4 million if he will play for the spurs.

This can't be for real....

[angelbelow]

ADULT VIDEO is offering a 10% discount.

make it 50% and i think hes in. :toast

[T Park]

make it 50% and i think hes in. :toast

screw it, give him the whole GD store and throw in the cities finest hookers and blow.

[ElNono]

Just the fact that you're comparing him to our scrubb-ass, can't jump over a phone book center that everyone acknowledges needs replacing speaks volumes. Fabricio is five years older and played Scola's ass to a draw. Ask David West if he isn't a tough hombre, too.

I'm comparing him with our center because that's where he would end up playing. In our team it's always TD + somebody else. That's where Splitter would play, and that's where Bonner, who got the money we could have used for Scola, plays.

And in case you forgot already, we switched Duncan over to David West for Games 6 & 7 after he embarrased Oberto and KT with 30 or so points in Game 5.

[ElNono]

please stop making this into a scola thread!
it's about scola 2.0!

Sorry. Like I said earlier, if we're so desperate to improve our TD sidekick, it sure looks like we're not trying hard enough...
Any news if Pop is in Spain already?

[Indazone]

The Spurs team that had both Robinson and Duncan on it at the same time was a well oiled machine. Ever since then, it hasn't been quite the same. I think that was one of the best teams of all time.

Now the Spurs search for that elusive big man to replace Robinson but since that time, you've had Nazr, Elson, Oberto and now Splitter to be that replacement. Not quite the same.

[T Park]

The Spurs team that had both Robinson and Duncan on it at the same time was a well oiled machine. Ever since then, it hasn't been quite the same. I think that was one of the best teams of all time.

Now the Spurs search for that elusive big man to replace Robinson but since that time, you've had Nazr, Elson, Oberto and now Splitter to be that replacement. Not quite the same.

Yeah they only have won 2 more since Robinson and Duncan were together.

They've struggled so much.


Get the fuck out of here.

[Indazone]

haha..totally missed the point. yeah they won 2 more but they were nowhere near as dominant as that origianl team with Duncan/Robinson.

[T Park]

haha..totally missed the point. yeah they won 2 more but they were nowhere near as dominant as that origianl team with Duncan/Robinson.

In 05 they went 16 and 7
Uh, they went 16 and 4 in 07.

in 03 they went 16 and 8.

Wanna rethink that again genius?

[Spur-Addict]

Yeah they only have won 2 more since Robinson and Duncan were together.

They've struggled so much.


Get the fuck out of here.

:reading.....:lmao

[ElNono]

Part of the reason is that good coaches, like PJ, will immediately expose your offensive weakness and use it against you. Kurt Thomas looked good when he was able to drain his jumper. But he's not consistant or athletic enough, so he fouls a lot.
The thing is, we're already playing 5 on 4 offensively when Bowen has to be out there. Givng up two is too much.

[Indazone]

Spurs 2003 Record 60-22 record
Spurs 2005 Record 63-19 record
Spurs 2007 Record 58-24 record

However my opinion and you are welcome to yours that the Duncan/Robinson team was better than the 05 and 07 teams.

[urunobili]

Guys TAU has just won the league ACB title...

[mystargtr34]

No shiite :)

[kobyz]

maybe the spurs can give TAU 2 players from Austin for giving up on Splitter

[mystargtr34]

Send DerMarr :lol

[tav1]

I hope Splitter is a room with Pop right, Pop giving him that "don't piss me off" stare.

[Ocotillo]

Any news if Pop is in Spain already?

Naw, he doesn't like Spanish wine that much, he's in France using Batum as an excuse to get some French wine.

[mystargtr34]

I had a dream last night

Splitter
Duncan
Bowen
Smith/Manu
Parker

[MoSpur]

So is it official? Splitter signed an extension with Tau?

[mystargtr34]

Nope its not official.

The offer is on the table, and they said a decision was to made after the ACB Final series with Barcelona was over, which it is.

So any time now..... its up to Tiago.

[Bruno]

http://www.euroleague.net/resourceserver/14290/58f38790-0695-47e7-996f-82678566478f/d22/rglang/en-US/filename/58f.jpg

:downspin:

[Mr. Body]

I hear Tiago requested 50 Euros for each rep for the camera.

[tav1]

I hear Tiago requested 50 Euros for each rep for the camera.


Yes, and he agreed to nude photos upfront but backed out at the last minute.