George Hill???

[Sigz]

?

[Sigz]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Hill_(basketball)

[dougp]

Where the fuck did this come from?

[intlspurshk]

He will be traded I believe

[Brutalis]

What a fucking joke Spurs.

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

what the hell ? :lol

[Sigz]

The fucking gayest pick in the draft.

[TwAnKiEs]

What the HILL??!! :wow

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

I like it.

[ShoogarBear]

Did RC think his last name was Iupui?

[manufor3]

what a weak pick. Arthur, Douglas-Roberts, Jordan, even freakin Chalmbers (who i hate) are all on the board you go with GEORGE FREAKIN HILL?

[jay014]

pretty good rebounder for his size 6'2 7rebounds.

[Go For Tree]

george hill, who nobody has heard of..... yet we didnt think we could get him in the second round? damnit they better be right this year....... at least they didnt go overseas to draft a player who will be 30 before we buy out his contract......

[dbestpro]

This is as bad as Alferdrick Hughes. Sometimes the Spurs want to prove they are so smart they're stupid.

[2centsworth]

RC must go.

[midgetonadonkey]

I reserve judgment until next year.

[rj215]

Maybe RC used up his luck on TP and Manu.....all the rest of his picks have sucked. Either they don't want to play in the U.S. (Splitter) or they have no work ethic (Beno). I hope they trade this dude.

[JoshO501]

i picked him in yesterdays mock draft.hahahah

[ShoogarBear]

Maybe RC used up his luck on TP and Manu.....all the rest of his picks have sucked. Either they don't want to play in the U.S. (Splitter) or they have no work ethic (Beno). I hope they trade this dude.

You forgot: or they trade them for nothing.

[ChumpDumper]

Don't curse in the titles.

[Manuismyhomeboy]

We have to get another draft pick to get an athletic wing

[underdawg]

priority one - the 4th string point guard. seriously - is anybody at the wheel? we are quickly becoming the Jets of the NbA

[Samr]

george hill, who nobody has heard of..... yet we didnt think we could get him in the second round? damnit they better be right this year....... at least they didnt go overseas to draft a player who will be 30 before we don't buy out his contract......

Fixed that for you.

At least we can pronounce this guy's name. He was not best available, but if the Spurs can get a consistent backup PG with him, then it was a good pick. But, I'm still all for firing RC. I have my reasons.

[lefty]

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a314/Mykoskalmyith/Funny%20Pics/wtf.jpg

[ChumpDumper]

That looks like a pre-op Vincent Price.

[manu2020]

I can't believe this crap!!! Why in the hell did they get a guard in the first round when they should have gotten a forward. Man ths SH*t is killing me.All the freaking guards in the draft, they pick one in the late first round

[Spurs Brazil]

26 George Hill SA A bit of a tweener. Like Chalmers better

http://sports-ak.espn.go.com/nbadraft/draftCast/index

[midgetonadonkey]

I like how everyone here knows better than the GM of a 4 time NBA Championship team.

[dbestpro]

A slow 6-1 shooting guard. Just what we need.

[2centsworth]

Don't curse in the titles.
Only tim deserves a lifetime exemption from suckage. The rest including RC are all held to the same standard, what have u done for me lately. Otherwise, malik and horry would still be on the roster.

[lefty]

I like how everyone here knows better than the GM of a 4 time NBA Championship team.

He's a great GM, but he's not perfect

[Sigz]

So much for that young wing player. What is really more important.. a backup PG who might not even be TP's backup, or a young wing player?

Fucking gay.

[midgetonadonkey]

So much for that young wing player. What is really more important.. a backup PG who might not even be TP's backup, or a young wing player?

Fucking gay.

Why wouldn't he back up TP? I don't see any other PGs on the roster that are worth a damn.

[Sigz]

Why wouldn't he back up TP? I don't see any other PGs on the roster that are worth a damn.

A wing player was/is more important.

[ChumpDumper]

Only tim deserves a lifetime exemption from suckage. The rest including RC are all held to the same standard, what have u done for me lately. Otherwise, malik and horry would still be on the roster.Are you drunk?

[rj215]

I can't believe this crap!!! Why in the hell did they get a guard in the first round when they should have gotten a forward. Man ths SH*t is killing me.All the freaking guards in the draft, they pick one in the late first round

Pop and RC better have seen something from this guy if he tried out for them. Does anyone know if he did? If not, why would you take someone from East Bumblefuck State University? His top competition was probably dudes that were Junior College rejects. WTF??!?!?!?!

[Bartleby]

A wing player was/is more important.

Maybe, but there are more options for wing players in the free agent market.

[manu2020]

Shoud they could have picked a guard in the second round and the way things are going hell they would have gotten a decent pg via fa

[Birn]

What the heck do you know about George Hill? Did you work him out personally? How do you know he "sucks"? I trust the Spurs know much better than all the GM wannabes in this forum. The guy can play both guard positions, defends well, and most importantly he can score!! That fills a big need for us.

I'm good with this pick.

[angelbelow]

man... so much potential left too..

[pjjrfan]

I would've taken a chance on Arthur, the guy is just what the doctor ordered. But, we'll have to wait and see how this goes down. It's a pick that doesn't make sense to me. Unless they had their hearts set on Batum or Anderson. Who knows what these guys are thinking.

[dbestpro]

I would have rather them sold the pick for a bag of chips and some salsa.

[AFBlue]

How long is RC going to get a pass for his drafts because of Tony and Manu...

I can't believe I waited this long for George Hill...an undersized, turnover-prone guard.

[Sigz]

What the heck do you know about George Hill? Did you work him out personally? How do you know he "sucks"? I trust the Spurs know much better than all the GM wannabes in this forum. The guy can play both guard positions, defends well, and most importantly he can score!! That fills a big need for us.

I'm good with this pick.

Chalmers....

[Bartleby]

I would've taken a chance on Arthur, the guy is just what the doctor ordered.

Unless they had their hearts set on Batum or Anderson.

Those puns were intentional, right?

[pjjrfan]

It's not that I know anything about him, but there were several guys who have played in big time competition and done well, Roberts, Chalmers, Arthur. I got my fingers crossed, but I just see the Spurs either trading this guy or letting him go before the season starts.

[saxman]

I'm pretty sure RC and POP know more about evaluating players and player situations better than any of us so I'll reserve judgement until later.

[dbestpro]

At 6-1 he played shooting guard in the junior college circuit. He has never played the point and he is too short to play the 2 spot. He is way slow by NBA standards and would readily be available in the seocnd round. This is a brick pick. Maybe he can make sure everybody gets plenty of water.

[GhostofAlfrederickHughes]

This is as bad as Alferdrick Hughes. Sometimes the Spurs want to prove they are so smart they're stupid.

Hey....hey...hey!!!!

[midgetonadonkey]

I'm pretty sure RC and POP know more about evaluating players and player situations better than any of us so I'll reserve judgement until later.

The n00b speaks the truth.

[Sigz]

I'm pretty sure RC and POP know more about evaluating players and player situations better than any of us so I'll reserve judgement until later.

They've done a hell of a job since drafting TP.

:salute:

[ShoogarBear]

He'll be the new 4 in Small Ball.

[Hillcrest]

It's not that I know anything about him, but there were several guys who have played in big time competition and done well, Roberts, Chalmers, Arthur. I got my fingers crossed, but I just see the Spurs either trading this guy or letting him go before the season starts.

how do we...

(a) go for a point guard, not a young wing/forward?

(b) pick a low rated point guard, when relatively "obvious" bigger-timers (chalmers, douglas-roberts) are available?

...i'm open to an answer. but i want an answer...how is this guy SO much better than the more proven guys?

[midgetonadonkey]

how do we...

(a) go for a point guard, not a young wing/forward?

(b) pick a low rated point guard, when relatively "obvious" bigger-timers (chalmers, douglas-roberts) are available?

...i'm open to an answer. but i want an answer...how is this guy SO much better than the more proven guys?

How is he not?

[koopa]

He'll be the new 4 in Small Ball.

the sad thing, with pop coaching, that is probably what we are gonna see

[midgetonadonkey]

The league is turning into a point guard league. This pick was made to slow down opposing point guards while getting some scoring in return.

[Hillcrest]

How is he not?

i don't know he's not, but i do know that no one expected him to go in the first round. i know he's relatively short. i know he's not an all-time athlete with a quick first step. i know he's not hidden away in europe either.

[sehui]

pretty retarded going for a young PG under tony when we desperately need some help at the 2,3 and downlow with timmy.

Who knows, this guy actually might be good!

[manu2020]

:wow
What the heck do you know about George Hill? Did you work him out personally? How do you know he "sucks"? I trust the Spurs know much better than all the GM wannabes in this forum. The guy can play both guard positions, defends well, and most importantly he can score!! That fills a big need for us.

I'm good with this pick.

[midgetonadonkey]

i don't know he's not, but i do know that no one expected him to go in the first round. i know he's relatively short. i know he's not an all-time athlete with a quick first step.

He's the same height as Tony Parker.

[rascal]

No where near as quick

[midgetonadonkey]

No where near as quick

But that doesn't mean he won't be a solid player. There are plenty of quick point guards that suck balls.

[wisnub]

http://www.nba.com/draft2008/profiles/GeorgeHill.html

I look at his statistics on 2007-2008 and he averaged 21,5 points. He also extremely quick and handle and pass the ball very well. Its a good pick considering Rush,Ibaka, Batum and Ajinkca already being picked. I smell 3 points potential as well. Hopefully he can be useful of the bench. Chalmers and CDR fans must be upset...

[2centsworth]

How long is RC going to get a pass for his drafts because of Tony and Manu...

I can't believe I waited this long for George Hill...an undersized, turnover-prone guard.
Forever, they are just going to waste the rest of tim, tonys, and manu's career because we got lucky with the ping pong balls and RC deserves aLl the credit

[manu2020]

Birn you man be happy with the pick but you have several other top combo guards that played in better competition that GH did. What the Spurs need was a young forward to play along side Tim and learn from the best pf in history.

[sehui]

"Here's an Eastern Conference scout on the San Antonio Spurs pick of point guard George Hill of IUPUI: "This kid can play every fact of the game. He has long arms, quick and is really, really a terrific scorer. He probably rebounds the point guard position better than any point guard in the country. He's a legit player. He could've started for anyone in America."

The Spurs also had been high on French forward Nicolas Batum, who was drafted by Houston (for Portland) one spot earlier."

from Yahoo
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/nba_08draft/post/Spurs-get-steal-in-Hill-?urn=nba,90597

[midgetonadonkey]

Birn you man be happy with the pick but you have several other top combo guards that played in better competition that GH did. What the Spurs need was a young forward to play along side Tim and learn from the best pf in history.

So who backs up Parker?

[Sigz]

This is the biggest fucking reach in the draft.

This guy would've have been at 45.

[midgetonadonkey]

This is the biggest fucking reach in the draft.

This guy would've have been at 45.

How do you know this? Because "analysts" put it in their "mock" "draft"?

[AFBlue]

So who backs up Parker?

Backup PG plays 15 minutes a game...when they're ready!

Wing players and post players have the potential to play 20 to 30 mpg if they prove they can handle it.

[Hillcrest]

But that doesn't mean he won't be a solid player. There are plenty of quick point guards that suck balls.

there were lots of "solid players" on the board. everything you say could also be said of chalmers or cdr.

you don't aim for "solid". if the spurs hadn't gotten lucky with some diamond in the rough finds, we wouldn't have tp, gino, or several other titles.

we need those finds. i don't see this being the guy. may i be wrong.

[manufor3]

"Here's an Eastern Conference scout on the San Antonio Spurs pick of point guard George Hill of IUPUI: "This kid can play every fact of the game. He has long arms, quick and is really, really a terrific scorer. He probably rebounds the point guard position better than any point guard in the country. He's a legit player. He could've started for anyone in America."

The Spurs also had been high on French forward Nicolas Batum, who was drafted by Houston (for Portland) one spot earlier."

from Yahoo
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/nba_08draft/post/Spurs-get-steal-in-Hill-?urn=nba,90597

some how i think the rockets only took batum to make the spurs screwed

[midgetonadonkey]

Backup PG plays 15 minutes a game...when they're ready!

Wing players and post players have the potential to play 20 to 30 mpg if they prove they can handle it.

No way!

[midgetonadonkey]

there were lots of "solid players" on the board. everything you say could also be said of chalmers or cdr.

you don't aim for "solid". if the spurs hadn't gotten lucky with some diamond in the rough finds, we wouldn't have tp, gino, or several other titles.

we need those finds. i don't see this being the guy. may i be wrong.

If everything I'm saying can be said of Chalmers and CDR, then why are you crying?

[Spurs Brazil]

26 San Antonio George Hill 6-2 181 PG Indiana Purdue
You have to love the Spurs. They always march to the beat of a different drummer. I sort of like this pick because I think he's a guy who can really play -- and play both the 1 and 2. But is he really better than Mario Chalmers? I don't think so. I don't want to second-guess one of the best-drafting teams in the NBA, but I think Chalmers will be a better NBA player.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nbadraft/draft/tracker/round?draftyear=2008

[leemajors]

well at least we got NJ to pick anderson.

[loveforthegame]

26 San Antonio George Hill 6-2 181 PG Indiana Purdue
You have to love the Spurs. They always march to the beat of a different drummer. I sort of like this pick because I think he's a guy who can really play -- and play both the 1 and 2. But is he really better than Mario Chalmers? I don't think so. I don't want to second-guess one of the best-drafting teams in the NBA, but I think Chalmers will be a better NBA player.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nbadraft/draft/tracker/round?draftyear=2008

Is he serious?

[Marco]

I suppose scoring is why they took Hill over Chalmers.

[sehui]

Is he serious?

people still worship us for drafting tony and manu..but that was like 10 years ago!!!

[peacemaker885]

Ok, if the Spurs keep this guy, I'm pretty sure Pop will do a Stodamire on him. Early in the season his ass will be asked to score score and score some more.

[Hillcrest]

If everything I'm saying can be said of Chalmers and CDR, then why are you crying?

because we didn't get the best, midge.

you're aiming for "solid"...good luck winning a title with "solid" first round draft picks. you have to draft better than everyone else to win also.

chalmers / cdr are better than solid. you have nothing suggesting george hill was a better pick than those guys.

that seems obvious, but maybe you're a homer.

[midgetonadonkey]

because we didn't get the best, midge.

you're aiming for "solid"...good luck winning a title with "solid" first round draft picks. you have to draft better than everyone else to win also.

chalmers / cdr are better than solid. you have nothing george hill being a better pick than those guys.

that seems obvious, but maybe you're a homer.

Apparently a lot of other teams don't think they are better than solid. They still haven't been picked.

[Samr]

This is going to be an excellent thread to bump the first time this guy scores more than 10 points.




Now, he may not score more than 11, but it still will be fun.

[TacoCabanaFajitas]

Apparently a lot of other teams don't think they are better than solid. They still haven't been picked.

Again I think you should take into account the needs of those teams before talking about them passing on those guys

[Booharv]

? is right.

[Spurtacus]

I've calmed down a little now...

I only know what I see on youtube. This guy looks like he can create his own shots and shoot. What about his defense? Chalmers would have been a better pick for a PG.

[Marco]

One need is scoring and they got Hill.

[Ginobilly]

Pop was actually right this time around. "Don't expect an impact player":( Why the fuck didn't they take CDR or Chalmers? Fuckin Spurs :bang They need to tea bag RC!

[TDMVPDPOY]

is this guy meant to be our monte elis? or duhorn? or cp3?

fukn bust pick

[Sigz]

One need is scoring and they got Hill.

Scoring from a wing player. I'm sick of watching Finley jack up blanks.


Fuck it... damon stoudemire could have given the Spurs that pg scoring if it was really that BIG of a need. He likes to chuck it.

[tim_duncan_fan]

Great pick! The playoffs showed us that what the team needed more than anything was a short, slow point guard and that's what the spurs are getting in this pick.

I'm glad they didn't pick up a young wing because we really don't need one of those.

[John_C]

He has good solid numbers in different aspects of the game, and there must have been something also in his attitude that RC and Pop feel that may compliment the team as a whole.

Hell, New York Knicks have a lot of talent in their roster, and so does Denver, yet they seem to fail in so many ways. So let's give the front office a little benefit of the doubt in their choice.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

He'll start 2 games into the season.

[AC#21_TD ERA]

Id rather see the Hill on the court instead of the garbage truck Vaughn. You cant get worse than JV. THE SPURS FRONT OFFICE IS OVERATED.

[dbestpro]

He's a short Alfredick Hughes.

[tim_duncan_fan]

Great pick! The playoffs showed us that what the team needed more than anything was a short, slow point guard and that's what the spurs are getting in this pick.

I'm glad they didn't pick up a young wing because we really don't need one of those.

[loveforthegame]

It's not a bad pick but I'm disappointed that the Spurs used the 26th on him. No telling who the Spurs pick at 45th now.

[midgetonadonkey]

The playoffs also showed that they need a defensive point guard that can stop other PGs in the league. Wings are available in free agency and they may find a gem at 45.

lol at all these "internet GMs" that know better than the pros.

[rondoistimmyspenis]

my question is why not draft an accomplished guy, who put up better numbers than the number one overall pick and won an NCAA record 38 games? Why not draft an athletic SG/SF that is a big and creative slasher? why not draft a guy who competed at a very high level? CHRIS DOUGLAS-ROBERTS!!! TRADE UP NOW!!!! CHRIS DOUGLAS ROBERTS!!!!!!!!!!!

[Sigz]

The playoffs also showed that they need a defensive point guard that can stop other PGs in the league. Wings are available in free agency and they may find a gem at 45.

lol at all these "internet GMs" that know better than the pros.

Yes. Because George Hill will stop CP3.

[A.H 21-50]

I start to think that it's not such a bad pick as a lot of teams passed on cdr or chalmers

the only guy i didn't understand we don't take him is Greene

[dbestpro]

Sure, we are going to see a slow 6-1 shooting guard for small college beable to play D on NBA level point guards. Yeah, that makes all the sense in the world.

[midgetonadonkey]

Yes. Because George Hill will stop CP3.

He has a 6'9 wingspan and from what I've read he plays stubborn D. How do you know he won't without him playing a minute in the NBA?

[Bruno]

I don't know who this guy is.
The sensible attitude is just to STFU, wait and see what he will do with Spurs before calling him a awful or a great pick.

[rondoistimmyspenis]

greene already got drafted...why not pick bill walker?

[Sigz]

He has a 6'9 wingspan and from what I've read he plays stubborn D. How do you know he won't without him playing a minute in the NBA?

Your an idiot.

We're talking about c fuckin p3.

Bruce Bowen couldn't stop him..

TP couldn't stop him. The only way for him to even try to limit CP3 was to outplay him on the offensive end.


I think I'm going crazy if I see people writing that George Hill will STOP CP3.:blah

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Yes. Because George Hill will stop CP3.

As though anyone can.

[midgetonadonkey]

Sure, we are going to see a slow 6-1 shooting guard for small college beable to play D on NBA level point guards. Yeah, that makes all the sense in the world.

Why not? Did you ever think you would see a 37 year old undrafted journeyman be able to shut down the best player on the opposing team night in night out?

[John_C]

Lol, I wonder how some of these guys were also reacting when we took in Tony Parker, remembering that at that time Gilbert Arenas was still in the board.

[midgetonadonkey]

Your an idiot.

We're talking about c fuckin p3.

Bruce Bowen couldn't stop him..

TP couldn't stop him. The only way for him to even try to limit CP3 was to outplay him on the offensive end.


I think I'm going crazy if I see people writing that George Hill will STOP CP3.:blah

Oh we were talking about c "fuckin" p3. My bad.

[rondoistimmyspenis]

Cdr, Gone!!! Yay!!!!!!!!!!!! Lets Pick Some Obscure Foreign Fuck!!!

[rondoistimmyspenis]

why not pick devon hardin? they had us picking him in the first round a couple of months back. we dont need somebody who isnt gonna contribute immediately, we have 3 players under 30. matt bonner is one of those. oberto is absolutely worthless, hardin is a much more skilled center who can actually play some kind of defense, another thing Aragorn lacks.

[rondoistimmyspenis]

Oberto Sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[rondoistimmyspenis]

Oberto sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[rondoistimmyspenis]

Matt Bonner Sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[rondoistimmyspenis]

lets go big. DEVON HARDIN please...please....please...RC...quit trying to be mr. gem finder and just pick a good player that is the obvious right pick! Hardin, Matt Forbes(look him up he was conference player of the year at SF), Bill Walker, jamont gordon(slasher SG)

[Sigz]

Why not? Did you ever think you would see a 37 year old undrafted journeyman be able to shut down the best player on the opposing team night in night out?

Uh.. last time I checked... Bowen usually does.


But please. Keep thinking your weak little second round talent is the next coming of a defensive stopper.

:bking

[midgetonadonkey]

Uh.. last time I checked... Bowen usually does.


Thanks for making my point.

[Sigz]

Thanks for making my point.

Reading too fast.

-1 on me.

[DPG21920]

Hill is not a bad pick, but I read in the nbadraftnet that he broke his foot and is now playing with screws in it, that is a little worrisome

[rondoistimmyspenis]

Fuck Who The Fuc Kis This Guy We Just Drafted?

[rondoistimmyspenis]

Who Is This????????????????? Omfggggggggggggggg

[John_C]

Now, I seriously think we're fucked this year

[Emeyin]

Damn another wasted Draft Pick.. goodness.. they need to get their shit straight!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[rj215]

Hey well since Pop and RC are so much smarter than us 'internet GMs' I"m sure they'll have plenty of playing time ready for Splitter when he plays for us next year....oh wait, he isn't? Oh because he used the Spurs FO so he could get a better contract overseas? Oh OK. Well at least we have Marcus Williams from last year to be a good role player....what we don't? Oh damn. What about all those other foreign players we drafted from 2000 -2007 that had so much 'upside'? Oh they play in Europe...oh ok.

Sometimes it's ok to say that RC and Pop SUCK at something. Yes yes, they got Manu and TP right but WHAT ELSE???? Let me answer that....NOTHING. They are lucky that Timmy can carry anybody to a Championship. They should build a statue to him right now in front of the AT&T Center.

[rondoistimmyspenis]

We Always Have James White...wait We Released Him Too?? Gosh Good Thing He Wasnt An Athletic Wing...

[midgetonadonkey]

Hey well since Pop and RC are so much smarter than us 'internet GMs' I"m sure they'll have plenty of playing time ready for Splitter when he plays for us next year....oh wait, he isn't? Oh because he used the Spurs FO so he could get a better contract overseas? Oh OK. Well at least we have Marcus Williams from last year to be a good role player....what we don't? Oh damn. What about all those other foreign players we drafted from 2000 -2007 that had so much 'upside'? Oh they play in Europe...oh ok.

Sometimes it's ok to say that RC and Pop SUCK at something. Yes yes, they got Manu and TP right but WHAT ELSE???? Let me answer that....NOTHING. They are lucky that Timmy can carry anybody to a Championship. They should build a statue to him right now in front of the AT&T Center.

If you could do such a better job why aren't you the GM of a team?

[midgetonadonkey]

We Always Have James White...wait We Released Him Too?? Gosh Good Thing He Wasnt An Athletic Wing...

He was so good he is playing in Turkey. It's not like they gave up an allstar.

[rondoistimmyspenis]

did yall see that graphic espn showed how we have the draft rights to 5 players who are under contract with foreign teams? bullshit, we might as well shit our picks into paper bags and set them on fire at james dolans door...

[rj215]

If you could do such a better job why aren't you the GM of a team?

Because I have to get on boards like this and correct nut lickers like you who have no clue and will just support whatever draft pick the Spurs make even though it's almost always a mistake.

[rondoistimmyspenis]

im upset that we released him!!! we dont even have his rights, he was on indiana before he went to turkey. and now devon hardin is gone...GREAT!!!

[midgetonadonkey]

Because I have to get on boards like this and correct nut lickers like you who have no clue and will just support whatever draft pick the Spurs make even though it's almost always a mistake.

So you passed up being a GM of an NBA team to be on a message board?

[rondoistimmyspenis]

midgetonadonkey youre defending the spurs for releasing white?

[midgetonadonkey]

midgetonadonkey youre defending the spurs for releasing white?

Yes. He was worthless. He couldn't shoot for shit and had the basketball IQ of a doorknob.

But I bet you liked him because he can dunk.

[whitebust]

RC decided that he would only draft players that were unable to dunk and run the floor slower than yao

[rondoistimmyspenis]

you're wrong, his shot was decent. plus who do we have replacing him? matt bonner? im guessing you like him too? yeah I liked his dunking ability but shooting and bball IQ can be taught, he was a young guy. And I guess youre trying to make me look like an ignorant basketball fan, but you look stupid for calling him good on one post and then calling him worthless on the next...

[whitebust]

RC's next pick:
Mantas Kalnietis PG LITHUANIA

[midgetonadonkey]

you're wrong, his shot was decent. plus who do we have replacing him? matt bonner? im guessing you like him too? yeah I liked his dunking ability but shooting and bball IQ can be taught, he was a young guy. And I guess youre trying to make me look like an ignorant basketball fan, but you look stupid for calling him good on one post and then calling him worthless on the next...

If he was so coachable and willing to learn then why didn't any other NBA team pick him up?

[mexicanjunior]

I guess they just didn't want a player in this draft that could help the team. I guess it will be nice to have Hill check out my groceries in 3 years after being released from the Toros...

[rondoistimmyspenis]

and you are wrong, white shot almost 40 percent 3 points in college. 30 percent in the NBA but you can't judge because he only played in six games

[rondoistimmyspenis]

indiana picked him up...

[midgetonadonkey]

indiana picked him up...

And then released him because he sucked.

Just tell me this, what NBA team is he on now?

[rondoistimmyspenis]

he's playing pro ball overseas but there are plenty of players who were in the NBA that are overseas. Did he come to the spurs with great expectations? No. Was he a first round pick? No. He managed to play one season and realized he had greater opportunities overseas. He will be in the NBA again within the next couple of years. And using your judgment you are saying that all ex-NBAers that are overseas were sucky NBA players? Then you are saying that Avery Johnson was a sucky NBA player because he went from NBA to overseas and back? Oh wait he was a starting PG for a championship team.

[kobyz]

who do you want us to pick instead Hill?

[rondoistimmyspenis]

And how are you so convinced that White sucked? He barely played for us...

[tav1]

I don't know who this guy is.
The sensible attitude is just to STFU, wait and see what he will do with Spurs before calling him a awful or a great pick.

Amen, Bruno.

I certainly fancied other players, but since I'm totally ignorant on Hill I'll wait on my evaluation. Still, it was tough to take initially.

[rondoistimmyspenis]

We could have picked douglas-roberts kobyz

[tim_duncan_fan]

If he was so coachable and willing to learn then why didn't any other NBA team pick him up?

look dude, the bottom line is that outside of the no-brainer with Tim, and lucking out with tony and manu the FO has sucked in regards to the draft and you foot have to be a GM to see it.

[midgetonadonkey]

And how are you so convinced that White sucked? He barely played for us...

Because he hasn't played for anyone.

If he comes back into the league and becomes even a garbage player, you can bump this thread and talk as much shit as you want. But until then he isn't good enough to be an NBA player.

[rondoistimmyspenis]

I think he is good enough, better than Matt Bonner who ties with Scalabrine as the worst player in the NBA. We shall wait and see on Flight White as we must wait on George Hill...I think even as a garbage player white is better than bonner and vaugn...and he could have had time to learn because finley would have given him a couple of years to learn before he got too old...

[kobyz]

We could have picked douglas-roberts kobyz

but there was a reason he fall to the 40

[rondoistimmyspenis]

James Gist, a gem maybe?

[rondoistimmyspenis]

i dunno...if nothing comes out as a reason then I would be upset because CDR was a very good player in college

[angelbelow]

time to hope for the best.

[Lake_show]

lol @ 2 Point Guards.

[ShoogarBear]

Not everyone gets to make trades with Jerry West.

[MoSpur]

He will surprise many

[koopa]

He will surprise many

probably dleague scouts

[rondoistimmyspenis]

get your lakers trash out of here please...and that andrew bynum thing is trash...careers arent made out of monthly averages...

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

probably dleague scouts

Yes because he has no ability to get better.

[whitebust]

He will surprise many

as a D league bust

[koopa]

Yes because he has no ability to get better.

not with pop coaching him, not saying pop can't coach, but the first mistake hill makes he'll go in the dog house and never be trusted to play again

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

not with pop coaching him, not saying pop can't coach, but the first mistake hill makes he'll go in the dog house and never be trusted to play again

So this would've changed if we picked someone else?
Why bother drafting at all then?

[midgetonadonkey]

as a D league bust

How long have you been a professional basketball scout?

[ducks]

yeah tp never bad a mistake as a rookie
and never trusted

[mexicanjunior]

So this would've changed if we picked someone else?
Why bother drafting at all then?

Chalmers and CD-R would probably be given more of the benefit of the doubt because...well, they are just better players.

[midgetonadonkey]

So this would've changed if we picked someone else?
Why bother drafting at all then?

It would've changed if they would've drafted someone who's name they recognize.

[midgetonadonkey]

Chalmers and CD-R would probably be given more of the benefit of the doubt because...well, they are just better players.

Pop must believe that Hill is the better player so that means he will be given the benefit of the doubt over Chalmers or CDR.

[ducks]

Chalmers and CD-R would probably be given more of the benefit of the doubt because...well, they are just better players.

hwo do the fuck you know?
have you seen hill play

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Chalmers and CD-R would probably be given more of the benefit of the doubt because...well, they are just better players.

That must explain why the Spurs targeted Hill over them.

[Marcus Bryant]

hwo do the fuck you know?
have you seen hill play

Indeed.

[MoSpur]

I honestly think he will beat out Vaughn to be TP's backup

[Marcus Bryant]

How long have you been a professional basketball scout?

Ever since he first turned on the modem.

[mexicanjunior]

Yeah, Hill was so much better that he played for the powerhouse known as the Summit league and was expected by scouts to be available with either of their 2nd round picks. That totally spells all star...

[midgetonadonkey]

Yeah, Hill was so much better that he played for the powerhouse known as the Summit league and was expected by scouts to be available with either of their 2nd round picks. That totally spells all star...

Apparently Pop and Buford felt he was better then the other two. I'm sure they have seen him play and evaluated him a lot more than you have. You should just shut the fuck up.

[rondoistimmyspenis]

vaugn sucks, if hill cant beat him then he was a horrible pick. and midgetonadonkey no one here is an nba scout or gm can you get off that shit? that is why this is a forum for FANS. FANS! So quit trying to use that "since when were you a scout" or "since when were you a gm" and respect people's opinions and use an intelligent reply if you disagree! you did so with me, why not do it with everyone else instead of just posting pointless BS...if this was a forum for scouts and GM's no one here would be in it...anyways off the soap box I am not sure about Hill...he was a good player at a small school but likely won't be an immediate contributor, something we need out of a young player. I hope we sign JR Smith...

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

Hopefully it means Pop and RC are hoping to cut Stoudamire and bench Vaughn by December? I really hope so. Guess he's a wait and see guy.

He sounds like he belongs in a Colonial American footnote.

[koopa]

So this would've changed if we picked someone else?
Why bother drafting at all then?

for shits and giggles

[midgetonadonkey]

vaugn sucks, if hill cant beat him then he was a horrible pick. and midgetonadonkey no one here is an nba scout or gm can you get off that shit? that is why this is a forum for FANS. FANS! So quit trying to use that "since when were you a scout" or "since when were you a gm" and respect people's opinions and use an intelligent reply if you disagree! you did so with me, why not do it with everyone else instead of just posting pointless BS...if this was a forum for scouts and GM's no one here would be in it...anyways off the soap box I am not sure about Hill...he was a good player at a small school but likely won't be an immediate contributor, something we need out of a young player. I hope we sign JR Smith...

All this is pointless BS. That's the point of a message board. So as much as you get a hard on about players that dunk I can go tell people to shut the fuck up because they don't know what GMs and scouts know.

[rondoistimmyspenis]

Neither do you, and we are here to talk basketball not talk shit to other people. So please talk basketball and not try and insult people's intelligence. It makes you look very immature.

[midgetonadonkey]

Neither do you, and we are here to talk basketball not talk shit to other people. So please talk basketball and not try and insult people's intelligence. It makes you look very immature.

I'm here to talk shit, not basketball. And I am very immature and people here know it. They've known it for years and they also know I like pissing off noobs like you. If you don't like my posts just hit the ignore button.

[Ice009]

They are lucky that Timmy can carry anybody to a Championship. They should build a statue to him right now in front of the AT&T Center.

lol maybe that statue should be built out the front of RC's house ;).

[rondoistimmyspenis]

you must not have much a life to be posting on here simply to talk shit...and i wish there were forums for shit talkers so that people can talk basketball without having to listen to your pointless sarcasm and BS. and the word noob doesnt offend me...let me guess youre like a 15 year old who plays world of warcraft? runs around calling people noobs? is that an insulting word now? lol...

[Tully365]

At 6-1 he played shooting guard in the junior college circuit. He has never played the point and he is too short to play the 2 spot. He is way slow by NBA standards and would readily be available in the seocnd round. This is a brick pick. Maybe he can make sure everybody gets plenty of water.

According to Draftexpress.com, Hill's 3/4 court sprint time was identical to the times of DJ Augustin and Jarryd Bayless, and slighter faster than the times of Russell Westbrook and OJ Mayo.

[Bartleby]

With just 3% body fat the guy is either a freak of nature or a hell of a hard worker.

[jayc23]

Ya im sure the detroit street player would be a much better back up for TP

[Marcus Bryant]

Great thread. Really great thread.

[DMX7]

Word.

[anakha]

Meltdowns like this thread are always entertaining.

[Marcus Bryant]

Great thread. Because you've seen this kid play. Because you think you know how he will project to the pro game.

[SequSpur]

hwo do the fuck you know?
have you seen hill play

:lmao at Ducks...

You can't even enter the word fuck correctly in a sentence which is damn near impossible.........:lol

[Mr. Peabody]

I remember when people would bitch back when Pop first started drafting Euros. I guess unless we drafted Rose or Beasley people were bound to bitch.

[TDMVPDPOY]

this guy better not turn out to be a stud like we had that young mcdonald guy last season

[T Park]

this guy better not turn out to be a stud like we had that young mcdonald guy last season

Huh?

[Mr. Peabody]

this guy better not turn out to be a stud like we had that young mcdonald guy last season

Are you talking about James White?

[TDMVPDPOY]

Are you talking about James White?

im talkin about the PG we had that was stash on the torros and ended up playin in europe

[T Park]

im talkin about the PG we had that was stash on the torros and ended up playin in europe

Darius Washington?

Uh yeah, the Spurs will have Hill for at least 2 years.

[Brutalis]

Thursday evening proved to be bit of a shock to Spurs fans. With Darrell Arthur and Mario Chalmers on the board San Antonio instead decided to take a sleeper in George Hill.

"I thought April Fools was over with" Hill said on the phone after being woken up from sleeping. "Dude I just pulled a 16 hour shift on Call of Duty 4 on XBox Live, and I need my rest, are you serious?"

Serious indeed. As RC Buford on the other end of the line was somewhat surprised at his 26th pick being asleep for the draft.

"What's that crackling noise" Buford asked. "Sorry I have a thing for Hersey bars" Hill replied.

It was reported RC hung up the phone not taking much humor from the guards jokes.

"I've gotten like 30 calls since they picked me" Hill said. "Mostly from fans asking who do I think I am. Honestly man I don't know- they kinda boring anyways."

Needless to say the Spurs need for an athletic wing player remains, and Spur fans continue to riot.

-ESPN

[Spurtacus]

Out of respect for George Hill, can we change the thread title? We shouldn't be "fucking" this kid. Spurs are the ones who passed up talent.

[Marcus Bryant]

Out of respect for George Hill, can we change the thread title? We shouldn't be "fucking" this kid. Spurs are the ones who passed up talent.

No kidding. What moron started this?

[T Park]

Out of respect for George Hill, can we change the thread title? We shouldn't be "fucking" this kid. Spurs are the ones who passed up talent.

If this kid is good, then did they really pass up anything?

[Spurtacus]

If this kid is good, then did they really pass up anything?

Verdict is still out. Many of us are upset because we passed up MORE proven guys like CDR, Chalmers, Arthur, and Green. Hill may be as talented as them...guess we will wait and see.

[Man In Black]

So many asshats here sometimes...UNREAL. I remember 01 and people saying TONY WHO?
They'd watch the video and say he can't dunk, his jump shot is funny and euros are soft and now look at him... he is sleeping with a Maxim's Top 5 girl and driving a Murcielago. That biatches, is knowing what a player can do. It's not a bad pick for 26. A few years from now, there will be some Joe Fortes' and Kirk Hastons and Jerryl Sassers. UM....where are they now? All of those mofos were drafted before TP. The only player picked after TP that has an impact on todays game is Agent Zero Gilbert Arenas. So yeah...FUCKING ORIGINAL POSTER. THINK.

[jayc23]

“Nobody really knew who he was, and probably even now some people don't know who he is,” Popovich said. “A lot of people found out about him because of Orlando.”

When Houston took French forward Nicolas Batum at No. 25, there was much rejoicing in the Spurs' war room.

Sounds like the Spurs knew who he was .... man its too bad George hasn't sold himself to the beer drinking fans yet.

[Marcus Bryant]

“Nobody really knew who he was, and probably even now some people don't know who he is,” Popovich said. “A lot of people found out about him because of Orlando.”

When Houston took French forward Nicolas Batum at No. 25, there was much rejoicing in the Spurs' war room.

Sounds like the Spurs knew who he was .... man its too bad George hasn't sold himself to the beer drinking fans yet.

Don't worry. It'll take a couple games and there won't be anyone who didn't know he was a solid pick.

[T Park]

Verdict is still out. Many of us are upset because we passed up MORE proven guys like CDR, Chalmers, Arthur, and Green. Hill may be as talented as them...guess we will wait and see.

Lots of teams passed up CDR and Chalmers.

Chalmers is an undersized shooting guard, while CDR is another potential Chris Carrawell.

Spurs addressed a NEED in backup point guard with a potentially damn good point.

[rondoistimmyspenis]

we shall wait on george hill. he may have something. and the 3 percent body fat is ridiculous, he must be a hard worker if he eats so many hershey bars. he shot 55% from the field, 45% from 3 and averaged over 20, 5 and 5. not bad. I would have preferred CDR but we did get a slasher(hairston) and another athletic guy (gist). Thank goodness we got rid of that lithuanian guy...

[rondoistimmyspenis]

haha ducks is getting straight murdered tonite...he has been told on 2 threads i have seen so far...

[Harry Callahan]

The guy played against some other high draft picks in college from what th articles say. How'd he do?

It does appear that he is able to score the basketball in a variety of ways - inside or outside. He also looked able to change direction and be tricky with the ball.

Drafting at 26, there will be holes in just about anyone's game taken there.

The Spurs biggest problem seemed to be a lack of players who can create their own shot.

Hill appears to have that ability. We'll see.

I like the fact that SA now has at least three #2s next year. Perhaps they can recoup that #1 they gave away for Thomas. At worst there will be three things for the site posters to complain about.

[T Park]

At worst there will be three things for the site posters to complain about.


More like at best.

[jayc23]

somebody took the time to do this lol http://www.the26thpickofthedraft.com/

I googled "george hill"

[T Park]

:lol

that website makes no sense at all.

[John_C]

http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/stories/MYSA062708.1D.BKNspurs.draft.main.4511270.html

It does seem that Popovich was really intent on getting this guy, and he may have really seen something good about this kid during pre-draft camp in Orlando.

Anyways, we have addressed 2 positions with this draft. Solid backup point guard, and a player in the forward position.

The picks may not be bad at all.

[T Park]

When pop likes a kid, it usually turns out good.

Josh Howard, Raja Bell, Udonis Haslem....

[DAINTX]

http://www.nbadraft.net/admincp/profiles/georgehill.html


http://www.mynbadraft.com/NBA-Draft-Combine-Results/

[whitebust]

i wasnt feeling Hill at first seeing as who else was available but after some research it seems he is a decent pick and addresses the spurs needs.

[wijayas]

For all who doubt Pop and RC's pick, I just have one question for you all: do you professionally evaluate George Hill during his work-out?

In Pop We Trust.

[DMX7]

That 91 isn't out of a 100, lol. Regardless, I'm just so done with this team. I'm ready to gear up for some Longhorn football.

[objective]

I was never completely sold on Chalmers because I don't trust 2-guards in college converting to NBA point guards.

Hill is no different. He played the 2 in college. Just because he's short and had to play point at draft camps this guy is now a real point guard behind Parker?

[baseline bum]

For all who doubt Pop and RC's pick, I just have one question for you all: do you professionally evaluate George Hill during his work-out?

In Pop We Trust.

To be fair, I didn't draft Marcus Williams at 33 like RC.

[T Park]

That 91 isn't out of a 100, lol. Regardless, I'm just so done with this team. I'm ready to gear up for some Longhorn football.

Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.

[Buddy Holly]

Mario Chalmers is this years Jamaal Tinsley.

[Mister Sinister]

That 91 isn't out of a 100, lol. Regardless, I'm just so done with this team. I'm ready to gear up for some Longhorn football.
You'll be missed.

Like Scola.

[John_C]

Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.

Lol, he must have been thinking Pop will miss him :lol

[MateoNeygro]

I like how everyone here knows better than the GM of a 4 time NBA Championship team.

i'm with you on this one. Nobody in here has probably ever seen this guy play, i'm sure the spurs know what they're doing. Just have some faith in a team that has won 4 championships. They gonna pick up a FA thats an athletic wing

[SenorSpur]

i'm with you on this one. Nobody in here has probably ever seen this guy play, i'm sure the spurs know what they're doing. Just have some faith in a team that has won 4 championships. They gonna pick up a FA thats an athletic wing

I just wonder if Hill could've been had in the 2nd round

[K-State Spur]

I just wonder if Hill could've been had in the 2nd round

i wonder that myself. but if you're not sure of it, and this is the guy you like, then you don't wait.

[SenorSpur]

i wonder that myself. but if you're not sure of it, and this is the guy you like, then you don't wait.

True dat.

The other question we'll never know if what would the Spurs have done if both Hill and Batum were available? Delicious question, indeed. :p:

[Spur-Addict]

somebody took the time to do this lol http://www.the26thpickofthedraft.com/

I googled "george hill"

Silky Steve :lmao

[oligarchy]

I just wonder if Hill could've been had in the 2nd round

I think that it's a number of people's complaints, but let's just assume they tried to trade up to a low second round pick and were unable to acquire that pick. So, they chose to draft early.

I think it will be interesting to see how some people that were left on the board at the time fare in the league; CDR, Arthur, Greene, and Chalmers.

[MateoNeygro]

there were lots of "solid players" on the board. everything you say could also be said of chalmers or cdr.

you don't aim for "solid". if the spurs hadn't gotten lucky with some diamond in the rough finds, we wouldn't have tp, gino, or several other titles.

we need those finds. i don't see this being the guy. may i be wrong.

but he very well could be a diamond in the rough, i mean when they drafted parker and ginobili i'm not gonna lie i was like who the fuck?? Because i don't pay much attention to the draft until it happens, why? because our opinions and who we want have no effect on who the spurs actually take. so chill out and wait for this guy to prove himself which i think he will. at least it wasnt' Romandovahovichi Demainolava Slabadonemalosavich from fuckin butt fuck russia or some shit.

[MateoNeygro]

I don't know who this guy is.
The sensible attitude is just to STFU, wait and see what he will do with Spurs before calling him a awful or a great pick.

exactly, well said.
:toast

[MateoNeygro]

look dude, the bottom line is that outside of the no-brainer with Tim, and lucking out with tony and manu the FO has sucked in regards to the draft and you foot have to be a GM to see it.

wait so the spurs got lucky with parker and manu? They din't evaluate and pass up other players that were more popular picks?? yah they just get lucky thats bullshit

[nfg3]

Lots of teams passed up CDR and Chalmers.

Chalmers is an undersized shooting guard, while CDR is another potential Chris Carrawell.

Spurs addressed a NEED in backup point guard with a potentially damn good point.

:tu

And as others have stated before the verdict is still out. Since CRD and Chalmers didn't go until the 2nd round it looks like all of the other GMs felt that they weren't 1st round material, either.

Hopefully by now everyone has calmed down a bit and lets see what happens in the summer league and training camp. This guy could turn out to be exactly what we need in backing up TP. We still need to find that wingman but the Spurs had more than one need gong into the next season and backup PG was one of them.

[AFBlue]

Last productive domestic player the Spurs took outside of the lottery?

Yeah, I'm not betting on the Spurs' "track record of 4 titles". That has absolutely nothing to do with evaluation of young talent and projecting how it translates to the NBA.

People are second-guessing the pick for good reason. Hill wasn't even the highest rated player on the board in the "undersized guard with questions about his ability to play PG full-time" mold...let alone the highest rated individual player on the board regardless of position.

Blind faith in Spurs' ability to pick future studs out of college is not based in factual reality.

[Mr. Body]

PT - This is the crux of it. They were obviously high on Hill, but whenever you are reaching for a player, there is value to be had in your draft position. Apparently they didn't even try to trade back to get another asset or two while still selecting their back-up 'PG'. Especially with two guys (Greene, Arthur) still there, it is imperative to get more value. Wellk, just like the Rockets did. They got their player, plus Dorsey.

[ChumpDumper]

Apparently they didn't even try to trade back to get another asset or two while still selecting their back-up 'PG'.How do you know?

[T Park]

Apparently they didn't even try to trade back to get another asset or two while still selecting their back-up 'PG'.

Link?

[AFBlue]

How do you know?

I thought about this as I saw so many of the picks rolling across the screen with the message afterward "(pending trade)". I mean, there must've been over a dozen trades that simply had to do with swapping.

I'm not sure if the Spurs didn't attempt to trade back because they were legitimately worried he'd be picked up before the early second round (say Minnesota's #34 pick), or if teams really don't like to trade with the Spurs.

Given the later trade (#45 to #48) and the number of other trades during the day, I think the Spurs could've traded up or back if they wanted.

Take #24 for example...if the Spurs REALLY wanted Batum, they probably could've swapped with the Sonics and given cash or one of their 2009 second rounders as consolation.

Bottom Line: They wanted Hill and I doubt they made any attempt to trade back for fear of him not being there.

[exstatic]

People spend TWO FUCKING YEARS bitching about Jacques Vaughn, and then pile on his replacement before he even hits town.

Fucking emos.

[T Park]

People spend TWO FUCKING YEARS bitching about Jacques Vaughn, and then pile on his replacement before he even hits town.

Fucking emos.

But but but but

They could've had a worse shooting tweener with a much cooler name!!!

[VaSpursFan]

i like george hill for this reason...Pop, the guy who will coach him, is high on him. sure he isn't a big name and we were all like WTF, but Pop saw something in this guy that he likes. i think we're going to be pleasantly surprised by this kid.

[Lake_show]

LOL. They drafted Hill to take Jaque Vaugns place.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

LOL. They drafted Hill to take Jaque Vaugns place.

That must've been why the Lakers were looking to trade for him.

[Lake_show]

That must've been why the Lakers were looking to trade for him.

Only the swagger jacking Spurs were dumb enough to take the bait.

[objective]

All the Lakers were doing were looking for a 3rd string point to groom to become a 2nd string point in 2-4 years when Fisher's gone.

[mystargtr34]

George Hill looks alot like Rajon Rondo.

Both about 6'2", long and wiry and both excellent rebounders and good athletes.

Hill has a better jump shot but Rondo was also 2 years younger when he enetered the league.

He has all the tools to be an awesome defender at the PG spot... not just a hustler and tenacious like JV

[Sway]

I was pissed when the Spurs took Hill with the 26 spot. Not because I think Hill is a bad prospect, but because I thought that was way too early. I actually had Hill on the list of players I wanted the Spurs to take in the 2nd round so I do like his potential.

In the end only time will tell if the Spurs made the right decision. A comparison of the players still left on the board (i.e. CDR, Arthur, Greene, Chalmers) against Hill’s rookie season stats should answer this debate.

I will say, if those guys left on the board do end up blowing up, I think it’s high time the FO homers around here stop defending every move RC makes.

[Mr. Body]

I will say, if those guys left on the board do end up blowing up, I think it’s high time the FO homers around here stop defending every move RC makes.

They'll never stop. RC is a mixed bag, lately worse than before, but you'll always have a cultish crew desperate to make everything grand by shouting about it. Hey, it's the Internets.

[picnroll]

They'll never stop. RC is a mixed bag, lately worse than before, but you'll always have a cultish crew desperate to make everything grand by shouting about it. Hey, it's the Internets.

Apply for the job.