Hypothetical: If S.A. were interested, Could they cquire the #1 pick from the Cavs

[cd021]

Hypothetical 1:


Have heard that the Cavs are open to moving the #1 pick (which is rumored,literally ever year)


Kawhi Leonard

2014 1st round pick (30th)

unprotected 2016 1st round pick *

(important because none of the big 3 would be under contract, meaning the Spurs could be much worse and their pick much more attractive)

*Danny Green may have to be included

Leonard ,apparently, is viewed in high regard around the league and is only 23.

The Cavs are probably going to lose Deng in free agency leaving them with no starting caliber small forward.


Joel Embiid is generally considered to be the front runner for the #1 pick and has been compared to Hakeem Olajuwon.







Hypothetical 2:


Bleacher Report recently mentioned the top FAs and their likely destinations.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...-agents/page/9

They mention Greg Monroe likely destination (obviously speculation)

but if Duncan were to retire after this season (hopefully with his 5th le)


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While it might be unlikely that Detroit simply lets Monroe sign an offer sheet elsewhere and then refuse to match, a sign-and-trade could work for both teams. Under Stan Van Gundy, Detroit will need perimeter shooters, and the Spurs have them in spades.

Even if it's just acquiring Danny Green and a draft pick, the Pistons would be well served to get something for Monroe and avoid a potentially messy situation where he publicly refuses to play for Detroit, which might not be out of the realm of possibility.

In Monroe, San Antonio would get a solid rebounder and great passer, two of Duncan's biggest contributions over the years. While he can't fill Duncan's shoes, San Antonio would be wise to chase the only young franchise big man who might be attainable this offseason, should Duncan retire.



The Spurs could have as much $22 million if Duncan were to retire (assuming the cap indeed rises to $63 million). Thats not including Mills and Diaw being unrestricted FAs.

He has been mentioned as the most likely of their front court to be moved considering Smiths bad contract and Drummond talent.

[Seventyniner]

Monroe/Splitter is a good, balanced frontcourt. However, Monroe is overrated and thus will likely be overpaid. That and Duncan might not retire even if the Spurs win the le.

As for the #1 pick scenario, as crazy as it may sound, I don't think it's worth losing Kawhi and Danny even to get Embiid. The Spurs would have no SF at all. If you include Deng in a sign-and-trade...hmm. The Spurs would have to take back some salary somehow.

Still, the Cavs have a new GM and he would get crucified for only getting Kawhi, Danny, the #30 this year and a likely low first-round pick in 2016. I don't know if they can do much better, but the public will think so.

[DesignatedT]

[Cry Havoc]

No way Cleveland would do that.

Embiid is listed as a center with a potential ceiling as high as Hakeem. They're not moving that pick for anyone who isn't a top 5 player in the league.

[BillMc]

Monroe/Splitter is a good, balanced frontcourt. However, Monroe is overrated and thus will likely be overpaid. That and Duncan might not retire even if the Spurs win the le.

As for the #1 pick scenario, as crazy as it may sound, I don't think it's worth losing Kawhi and Danny even to get Embiid. The Spurs would have no SF at all. If you include Deng in a sign-and-trade...hmm. The Spurs would have to take back some salary somehow.

Still, the Cavs have a new GM and he would get crucified for only getting Kawhi, Danny, the #30 this year and a likely low first-round pick in 2016. I don't know if they can do much better, but the public will think so.

Today's ESPN article on Pop and Duncan really gave the impression that Timmy isn't retiring anytime soon.

[Cry Havoc]

Today's ESPN article on Pop and Duncan really gave the impression that Timmy isn't retiring anytime soon.

If Timmy retires after next year, the cap space it would free up would give us a lot of room to pursue a near-max big to replace him.

[RD2191]

If Timmy retires after next year, the cap space it would free up would give us a lot of room to pursue a near-max big to replace him.

Any one in mind who could work and fit in with the Spurs? Anyone overseas worth bringing over?

[313]

Today's ESPN article on Pop and Duncan really gave the impression that Timmy isn't retiring anytime soon.

who's the first chick in your sig

[cd021]

Any one in mind who could work and fit in with the Spurs? Anyone overseas worth bringing over?

Love and Aldridge come off the books then.

[BillMc]

If Timmy retires after next year, the cap space it would free up would give us a lot of room to pursue a near-max big to replace him.

While I understand your point, I'd really rather Timmy play as long as he wants, even if at this point, we could replace him with a better FA.

[RD2191]

Love and Aldridge come off the books then.

Who would you pursue? I'm thinking Love since he is younger. Though I hear his dream is to be a Laker.

[BillMc]

who's the first chick in your sig

You mean the one with the suntan lotion? Mic e Keegan, British actress.

[Baam]

Monroe sucks imo but I like crackpot scenarios so that's my kinda thread...

I think making it to the Finals make Tim retiring and any significant move less likely. Then again we're not quite there yet...

Regarding Kawhi : while he produces awesome advanced stats it's clear as day he's robotic offensively and probably shouldn't be more than a 3rd banana... Id consider trading him while he still has that blue chip aura but it would have to be worth it, basically anything short of a Duncan replacement would suck... Also when I look at Stephenson I see a young SJax, I think you could fill the void left by Kawhi with Lance quite easily.

My favourite crackpot scenario would probably be something like Splitter + Kawhi for Love + a pick in a 3 teams trade or something...

[cd021]

Who would you pursue? I'm thinking Love since he is younger. Though I hear his dream is to be a Laker.

L.A. I think he is from Texas and would be a great pairing with Tiago. He'd be 31 though but still a great shooter.

[Cry Havoc]

Any one in mind who could work and fit in with the Spurs? Anyone overseas worth bringing over?

This draft is insanely deep for one, so much so that even with a very late pick we could grab someone to develop over the next couple of years. Jusuf Nurkic is a guy that's getting thrown around a lot, Mitch McGary
, and Kristaps Porzingis as well. And as usual we could see someone fall through the draft OR the Spurs could swipe someone from the free agent market. There are going to be a ton of free agents between now and the end of the 2015 free agency.

[Beaverfuzz]

no.

[DPG21920]

That video of Emiid looked like he was playing on an 8 foot rim.

[Mugen]

If Duncan/Manu do end up retiring at the end of this season or the next then the FA (realistic) I want the Spurs to pursue is Marc Gasol who's contract is up after next year.

It's obviously a downgrade but a lineup of TP/Green/Leonard/Splitter/Marc should be a contender depending on the landscape of the West around that time. Gives you another 2-3 year window before Parker/Pop are probably done.

[cd021]

Monroe sucks imo but I like crackpot scenarios so that's my kinda thread...

I think making it to the Finals make Tim retiring and any significant move less likely. Then again we're not quite there yet...

Regarding Kawhi : while he produces awesome advanced stats it's clear as day he's robotic offensively and probably shouldn't be more than a 3rd banana... Id consider trading him while he still has that blue chip aura but it would have to be worth it, basically anything short of a Duncan replacement would suck... Also when I look at Stephenson I see a young SJax, I think you could fill the void left by Kawhi with Lance quite easily.

My favourite crackpot scenario would probably be something like Splitter + Kawhi for Love + a pick in a 3 teams trade or something...

self deprecating humor. That Love deal is alright but but they have Pec thats a Memphis type of pairing and that can be hard to do in todays NBA.

I do think Kawhi is overrated and could have an inflated value.

[cjw]

If Timmy retires after next year, the cap space it would free up would give us a lot of room to pursue a near-max big to replace him.

Leonard's new contract will kick in by then, so cap space will quickly be taken up.

[vander]

when TD retires, Spurs will need to trade TP, Kawhi will get injured, and Spurs will get the #1 pick

[poeticism707]

That video of Emiid looked like he was playing on an 8 foot rim.

This.

This guy has top 10 all time potential written all over him.

No way the Cavs trade that pic,

so non issue.

[RD2191]

This draft is insanely deep for one, so much so that even with a very late pick we could grab someone to develop over the next couple of years. Jusuf Nurkic is a guy that's getting thrown around a lot, Mitch McGary
, and Kristaps Porzingis as well. And as usual we could see someone fall through the draft OR the Spurs could swipe someone from the free agent market. There are going to be a ton of free agents between now and the end of the 2015 free agency.

Thanks for your thoughts. Will def look into players mentioned.

[RD2191]

L.A. I think he is from Texas and would be a great pairing with Tiago. He'd be 31 though but still a great shooter.

His age is the only think that concerns me. His defense is also iffy.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

The real scenario is to pick up Harden and trade for Anthony Davis.. we would instantly have potential for a new big 3 just like the old... Parker/Harden/Davis...

Not as impossible as you think...

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