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interesting but means all is an interesting reason to start a new thread on that
Joe Biden has broken president Barack Obama's popular vote record set 12 years ago. The Democratic challenger is at 69,512,303 votes (50.1 percent) to Donald Trump's 67,069,982 votes (48.3 percent), according to The Associated Press' election results tracking at the time of writing.
https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-b...n-2020-1544754
Interesting bit, but means all with the electoral college.
interesting but means all is an interesting reason to start a new thread on that
Yeah but how many of them were dead uncles residing in their local cemeteries?
and the fatally flawed electoral college cannot be abolished w/o a Cons utional amendment which the oligarchy won't let get out of Congress never mind obtain approval by 3/4 of the states.
Trump also got more votes then Clinton did this year
None of them.Yeah but how many of them were dead uncles residing in their local cemeteries?
You realize this doesn't really happen right?
RG thinks the "start new thread" is actually "New Daily Journal Entry".
Trump won
Do you honestly believe the corpse of Joe Biden, who can't talk or generate any enthusiasm, got more votes than the Democratic messiah, Obama?
If not for COVID Trump wins in a landslide and the Republicans take the house back. The Democratic Party needs an enema.
Yes.Do you honestly believe the corpse of Joe Biden, who can't talk or generate any enthusiasm, got more votes than the Democratic messiah, Obama?
I believe the "not-Trump" candidate got more votes than Obama.
Quit huffing fox "news"
Fox news is just as liberal as you are
Didn't they pump like 200 million into South Carolina thinking they would unseat Graham?
If not for COVID Trump wins in a landslide and the Republicans take the house back. The Democratic Party needs an enema.
I'm sure they thought Maine was in the bag, too.
Double digit loses.
Polls
I guarantee you Trump is proud of this
” look how I energized everyone“
“I created chaos, distrust, I lie, I cheat... I’m popular”
The man has some serious character flaws.
But there is no denying he generated tons of enthusiasm unlike any Republican over the past few decades.
The liberal consensus was that Trump was a racist and an illegitmate candidate who somehow eclipsed a ceiling of 62 million votes and that in this cycle, he would be blasted by a blowout margin. Not only did Trump get 68 million votes this time around, he has become a champion for people of color places like Florida. He won't be in the White House next year thanks to his ty Covid response and funny mail in ballots, but he has essentially shattered the liberal stereotype of him and became somewhat of a Martyr for the Republican party. I can only hope the next Republican candidate adopts some of his ideology, especially on foreign policy.
I knew the McConnell race was a waste of money and I was complaining about it the whole time. South Carolina I thought might be in play but I thought the money being dumped into that race was beyond stupid.Didn't they pump like 200 million into South Carolina thinking they would unseat Graham?
I'm sure they thought Maine was in the bag, too.
Double digit loses.
Polls
It wasn't just those races where they wasted money. IIRC the guy who ran against Matt Gaetz raised on obscene amount of money for a congressional district race he had no chance of winning. Republicans wasted money in the same way (
The Democratic Party has an image problem. Even though I supported Bernie in the primary I don't think the election would have been a whole lot better with him at the top of the ticket. IMO these races fell apart because the Republican in bent campaigned around the message of "A vote for X is a vote for Chuck Schumer" and it worked in a big way. The Democrats need to start running more unconventional candidates like Katie Porter (who's basically turned a solid red district blue) but it's never going to happen.
Still I'm holding out hope for Yang 2024
Regarding the polls - The big difference this year is that the congressional district polls were just as if not more off than the public polls were. In 2016 the public polls were wrong but the congressional district polls were pretty spot on and showed Hillary Clinton warning signs with working class voters that she ignored. Regardless, we need to do something to restrict public polls. I'm not sure how but if there are ways to restrict news networks from releasing exit polls until after the polls close, I imagine there's a way to restrict public polls.
Fox news is just as liberal as you are
nope.
polling is a useful tool. i dont think if people actually believe they're a subs ute for votingDidn't they pump like 200 million into South Carolina thinking they would unseat Graham?
I'm sure they thought Maine was in the bag, too.
Double digit loses.
Polls
and if you go state by state for the presidential election, right now florida is the only state that has broken against the aggregate polling data (though north carolina would be the second if thats called for trump)
Look at Maine. Susan Collins was not ahead in even one poll all year long. She was supposed to not only lose, but get blown out... and she won by near double digits
I do agree it is useful in that the internals show you where you are lacking. Trump knew he was hurting with white suburban women and for the most part, that was spot on from the polling data. He also knew the american people, in general, were not happy with his Covid response since like, June, yet continued with his ridiculous waffling on masks and encouraging less testing. Pretty much sealed his fate and he is his own worst enemy.
polling is a useful tool. i dont think if people actually believe they're a subs ute for voting
and if you go state by state for the presidential election, right now florida is the only state that has broken against the aggregate polling data (though north carolina would be the second if thats called for trump)
i understand this is you, so it probably is too complicated, but...Look at Maine. Susan Collins was not ahead in even one poll all year long. She was supposed to not only lose, but get blown out... and she won by near double digits
I do agree it is useful in that the internals show you where you are lacking. Trump knew he was hurting with white suburban women and for the most part, that was spot on from the polling data. He also knew the american people, in general, were not happy with his Covid response since like, June, yet continued with his ridiculous waffling on masks and encouraging less testing. Pretty much sealed his fate and he is his own worst enemy.
the party of trump people showed up on Election Day. There were some that were turned off by what an odious piece of of a human being he is, and maybe didn’t vote for him.
but they voted r straight down the ballot.
You all are still completely in support of the ideals of today’s party of trump, but somehow think that not voting for him makes you any less of a trumper. Trumperism of today’s r party.
If it were somewhere other than South Carolina, Graham's "use my words agaisnt me" quote would have done just that and he gets unseated.
I could see Yang making some headway as he is pretty likable/sensible and is an effective communicator. I could also see you guys taking a page out of the Trump-Republican playbook with a celebrity candidate with a populus message. Maybe Mark Cuban, maybe someone else with enough appeal to a general audience.
I knew the McConnell race was a waste of money and I was complaining about it the whole time. South Carolina I thought might be in play but I thought the money being dumped into that race was beyond stupid.
It wasn't just those races where they wasted money. IIRC the guy who ran against Matt Gaetz raised on obscene amount of money for a congressional district race he had no chance of winning. Republicans wasted money in the same way (
The Democratic Party has an image problem. Even though I supported Bernie in the primary I don't think the election would have been a whole lot better with him at the top of the ticket. IMO these races fell apart because the Republican in bent campaigned around the message of "A vote for X is a vote for Chuck Schumer" and it worked in a big way. The Democrats need to start running more unconventional candidates like Katie Porter (who's basically turned a solid red district blue) but it's never going to happen.
Still I'm holding out hope for Yang 2024
Regarding the polls - The big difference this year is that the congressional district polls were just as if not more off than the public polls were. In 2016 the public polls were wrong but the congressional district polls were pretty spot on and showed Hillary Clinton warning signs with working class voters that she ignored. Regardless, we need to do something to restrict public polls. I'm not sure how but if there are ways to restrict news networks from releasing exit polls until after the polls close, I imagine there's a way to restrict public polls.
I think you are a miserable human being who just found my ignore list.
Yang practically is a celebrity candidate at this point, I think he basically is the liberal version of the Trump-Republican playbook.
Either way, this election shows what the Democrats are doing isn't working or reaching enough voters. They need a very unconventional candidate in 2024, and I can't think of one better than Yang.
if polls were supposed to track elections 100% then we would just skip the elections.Look at Maine. Susan Collins was not ahead in even one poll all year long. She was supposed to not only lose, but get blown out... and she won by near double digits
I do agree it is useful in that the internals show you where you are lacking. Trump knew he was hurting with white suburban women and for the most part, that was spot on from the polling data. He also knew the american people, in general, were not happy with his Covid response since like, June, yet continued with his ridiculous waffling on masks and encouraging less testing. Pretty much sealed his fate and he is his own worst enemy.
the hyper-accuracy of polls is obviously a desired/ideal outcome but its an unrealistic expectation imo
you embraced your love of trump. You are proud of it.
many were turned off by his constant drama and lying. But they still absolutely hold dear the tenants of trumpism that is today’s Republican Party.
there can be no question that trump is the face used as the driving force behind what that party believes in. Just because some people tired of him, doesn’t mean they aren’t lockstep with the dogma
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