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do you always believe the announcers?
during lastnight boradcast of the susns sonics game. they had a list up of the oldest and youngest teams in the league...what caught my eyes where the run and gun, media darlings from Phoneix is the second oldest in the league. you never hear people speaking about suns being old.
do you always believe the announcers?
Well part of the reason the Suns are now old is Grant Hill...
Just like most of the reasons the Spurs are old are Robert Horry, Bruce Bowen, Brent Barry and Michael Finley.
Duncan's not old...he's still in his prime, as is Manu. Parker has yet to hit his...I guess if Oberto had what could be considered a prime, he's still young enough to be in it.
It's really the Spurs bench that is old.....and you know what? Old benches are good...we win a le every time we have an old bench just about.
It's when multiple starters are old that problems start to crop up.
Amen I like the old guys in the playoffs. I dont mind Horry cruising into the playoffs and lighting it up once we are in. The old dogs know how to get it done when it counts.
And they also don't need a ton of minutes to develop their games either....
Weren't we old 2 years ago?
Young is needed to play run and gun.
Defense can be played at any age.
Suns Roster
2007-08 Roster
Marcus Banks 11/19/1981 26
Leandro Barbosa 11/28/1982 25
Raja Bell 09/19/1976 31
Boris Diaw 04/16/1982 25
Grant Hill 10/05/1972 35
Shawn Marion 05/07/1978 29
Sean Marks 08/23/1975 32
Steve Nash 02/07/1974 33
Eric Piatkowski 09/30/1970 37
Brian Skinner 05/19/1976 31
Amare Stoudemire 11/16/1982 24
D.J. Strawberry 06/15/1985 22
Alando Tucker 02/11/1984 23
Average Team Age - 28.7
Last edited by Solid D; 11-02-2007 at 01:59 PM.
I thought Pop put this to bed on media day when he said something like "We were the oldest team 3 years ago. We're older than now."
Spurs Roster
2007-08 Roster
Brent Barry 12/31/1971 35
Matt Bonner 04/05/1980 27
Bruce Bowen 06/14/1971 36
Tim Duncan 04/25/1976 31
Francisco Elson 02/28/1976 31
Michael Finley 03/06/1973 34
Manu Ginobili 07/28/1977 30
Robert Horry 08/25/1970 37
Ian Mahinmi 11/05/1986 20
Fabricio Oberto 03/21/1975 32
Tony Parker 05/17/1982 25
Ime Udoka 08/09/1977 30
Jacque Vaughn 02/11/1975 32
Darius Washington 12/06/1985 21
Team Average - 30.1 years of age
Median is usually a better determinant than average.
The Suns median age is 29. The Spurs median age is 31.
The Suns number is still deceptive. If you drop Sean Marks and Eric Piatowski (two practice players the Suns would cut if they didn't have to keep a certain number of players on the roster), the median age for the Suns drops to 26.
If the Spurs cut Horry and Bowen, the median age only falls to 30.5
Yeah, being younger really helped the Suns win the NBA championship last year.
Inasmuch as it has no correlation to winning NBA championships whatsoever, you are absolutely right.The Suns number is still deceptive.
There are not really any misleading numbers with the Spurs, though. 10 of their 14 players are in their 30s. Only Matt Bonner, Tony Parker, Darius Washington and Ian Mahinmi are under 30.
Don't cry ChumpDumper.
I'm not.
Tell us how the Suns' relative youth helped them win an NBA championship last season.
When did I say that youth=championship? The thread starter asked why the Suns aren't tagged with the "old" label like the Spurs. I gave him an answer.
Don't like it? Tough. I can't change the data.
And you never answered my question about the last time the Suns won an NBA championship.
When was that?
You can stop posting now....Im able to deduct that your response to ANY argument is that the Suns have never won a championship.
The Spurs are still old. They still have no chance of getting Oden (or any other marquee free agent).
I don't know enough about the Suns to make that call.Im able to deduct that your response to ANY argument is that the Suns have never won a championship.
I'm asking you -- when was the last time the Suns won an NBA championship?
No one seriously said they did.They still have no chance of getting Oden
The only Phoenix Sun with a ring.
That dude is old!
Who cares? What does winning matter? TV ratings and popularity aren't everything - they're the only thing. And the Suns are the NBA TV Ratings & Popularity Champions! I owned you, ChumpDumper, I owned you so bad! Hooray for me!
It's difficult to keep track of all the underscores.
Suns Roster
2007-08 Roster
Marcus Banks 11/19/1981 26 NO RING
Leandro Barbosa 11/28/1982 25 NO RING
Raja Bell 09/19/1976 31 NO RING
Boris Diaw 04/16/1982 25 NO RING
Grant Hill 10/05/1972 35 NO RING
Shawn Marion 05/07/1978 29 NO RING
Sean Marks 08/23/1975 32 NBA CHAMPIONSHIP RING
Steve Nash 02/07/1974 33 NO RING
Eric Piatkowski 09/30/1970 37 NO RING
Brian Skinner 05/19/1976 31 NO RING
Amare Stoudemire 11/16/1982 24 NO RING
D.J. Strawberry 06/15/1985 22 NO RING
Alando Tucker 02/11/1984 23 NO RING
LOL!!
END OF DISCUSSION!
LOL at SEAN MARKS!
LOL!!
END OF DISCUSSION!
LOL at SEAN MARKS!
Yes..those IDIOTS at TNT!
Why do they bother bringing up those stupid graphics of useless data!!!
The only stat that should ever be shown is who is who won the le last year.
Standings, sta istics, age etc.
IRRELEVANT!
All they need to do is predict that whatever happened last year is what is going to happen this year. PERIOD.
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