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What did Pop get the + for?
https://www.spurstalk.com/grades-san...ember-21-2019/
tl;dr: *sigh*
What did Pop get the + for?
Supposed floor-spacers Forbes and Belinelli being outshot percentage-wise by both White and Walker. If those guys had the same opportunities and roles, they'd get them up at the same attempts also.
No worries, we are used to it already
a result that shows the difference between the teams.
I hope you all realize that the Spurs were playing hard and would've had a chance to win the game if Pop played the right rotations. They were down 11 at halftime only cause Belinelli played the entire 2nd quarter. If you simply start Walker or Carroll for Forbes and let the other one come off the bench instead of Beli the defense and the offense would improve. This is on the coach sabotaging his own team and players. DeRozan had 20 at halftime, Aldridge had 10. They were clearly ready to compete, but here comes Flopovich with his rotations
I didn't watch it. So thanks for the grades. Timvp, can I get your honest opinion, no jokes, just a straight up intellectual opinion behind Pop's rotation, in particularly why is he not playing Walker or Carroll over Beli and Forbes? Edit* and not playing White and Murray together.
It would be nice if Pop got kicked out of games a lot more often so we could see Becky get some experience as well.
I know in the past you have said not to blow the team up until the playoffs aren't reachable, but even if they're only two games out of the playoffs, this is a bad team. A bad team that would only have a shot at the playoffs because the mid tier teams in the west all suck this year and making them with a sub-.500 record is reasonable. But what's the point of making the playoffs with a team that has no shot whatsoever of an pulling upset? Might as well just blow this up for draft position because giving minutes to DeRozan, Aldridge, Gay, Mills, Belinelli, etc isn't going to do anything to help the team's young talent improve and they don't look close to being a good team. It's finally time to see if they can land anything decent for the vets.
"Burn the tape."
Isn't that what people say when a good team has a bad game just so they could move on? More like burn the season.
Five rings, it looks like. I don't know what else.What did Pop get the + for?
Remember when OP was rock hard that his God decided to bench Lonnie after the 1st Clippers game because he saw something in him...
Sounds like the Chief Sniff Officer is coming to terms with the dementia-riddled that's ruining the only relevant thing in Fat Antonio
Ok! new sniffer conspiracy. Pop, knowing he can't win, is trolling around the 8th seed to mount a surprise, first round playoff series 7 game loss, to what could be assumed to be the clippers. Of course he's not going to play his best players if he wants to pull off the close defeat. You do have to admit, other than championships, 7 game losses, many in the first round are really pop's legacy.
"Instead, he [Lonnie] basically got put on a ship as it was sinking, got punished for a couple of minor mistakes and then participated in garbage time in the fourth quarter."
There's no "basically" about it. The game was lost. The Clippers were just putting the last nails in the coffin. If your goal was to destroy a young player, and you decided to invent a method to do it? It would wind up looking exactly like this.
I watched Lonnie while he was in the game last night, looking over at Pop to see if he was pissed about something. Once they were lining up for a Clippers free throw, and Lonnie just kept looking back to the bench - I felt sorry for him. The only thing worse than being second-guessed after the game is second-guessing yourself during a game.Nobody could play a sport under those conditions.
Whatever Pop used to be, he's ineffective now. He needs to step aside. As bad as that would be, him staying is ing up the future even more.
What point is Pop trying to prove by totally destroying this guys confidence. Lonnie Walker has a chance to have success with the Spurs well into the future - the current coach's window is much shorter. This is getting silly with Walker.
This team is lottery bound - the current roster has declining "stars", young guys with potential, and some older veterans who should be 15-20 MPG role players. They are NO threat to make the playoffs, let alone win a series.
Has anybody noticed that Beli, himself, seems to look puzzled at times, like, "why am I out here?" I don't mean confused about playing, I mean puzzled by why he's playing so much. It's almost looked that way to me a couple times, that Beli is also wondering.
Remember when OP was rock hard that his God decided to bench Lonnie after the 1st Clippers game because he saw something in him...
Sounds like the Chief Sniff Officer is coming to terms with the dementia-riddled that's ruining the only relevant thing in Fat Antonio
A lot of people here hate on DDR & LMA - sometimes with good reason, but last nights game was a great example of how the coach is killing all hopes of those two guys staying interested.
In the first half the spurs were in the game DESPITE pop playing Forbes & Beli and NEVER allowing white and murray to share the court...
now - take DDR & LMA’s first half and add LONNIE starting for forbes and give murray/white some run and rest DDR and allow LMA to score while murray/white/lonnie pressure on D -
then after LMA gets his- bring back a fresh DDR to close out the half
then it might be a start...
instead overplay the out of forbes/beli/mills
and this team is a disaster.
Thanks for the grades as always OP.It is the best thing about this site.
I missed the game so it gives me good insight. Cheers. But I do have to ask how so many of them get average (C) or passing (D) grades after an abomination like this? Only Pop failed by this scale and barely apparently with an "F+" Move that up to a D- and even he "passes."
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Maybe the F+ from timvp is because deep down he believes Pop can't be this stupid & is purposely sabotaging the record in order to get a higher draft pick. If not, Pop's inexcusable stubbornness is at Hall of Fame level. Mills and Forbes are not & never were meant to play the amount of minutes they play in the NBA. It's actually not fair to them. They are undersized and have one redeeming skill - shooting. They are built to come in and pile on a lead or perhaps be sparkplugs to cutting a deficit. They shouldn't be starting or playing more than 15 to 20 minutes a game IMO.
Let's call the Lonnie/Belli thing what it is at this point. It's a gross case of favoritism. Literally seconds prior to Lonnie entering, Marco gave up an and1 on a weak ass swipe down in transition. No reaction from Pop. No staredown, no scolding, certainly no benching. Lonnie comes in, commits a turnover and misses a shot and he's pulled within a minute. Gave him his chance and "it just didn't work out". If the situations are reversed, Lonnie is benched for a month after that swipe down and Belli plays the rest of the quarter after the TO+missed FG.
Lonnie needs to learn to play with his teammates. Yeah, well that Italian POS needs to learn how to not drag down his teammates.
CIA Pop
I smell a trade incoming.
Because they all played hard. DeRozan had 20 at halftime. Aldridge had 10. Even in the 3rd quarter the bench line up played their hearts out. The effort was there. The team was locked in from the start. It was Pop and his love for Belinelli that messed things up. The Clippers got Paul George and Kawhi out there, sometimes even with Lou Williams and here he is not playing Carrol, not playing Walker and never playing White and Murray together. How do you expect them to win that game with these kind of rotations?Thanks for the grades as always OP.
I missed the game so it gives me good insight. Cheers. But I do have to ask how so many of them get average (C) or passing (D) grades after an abomination like this? Only Pop failed by this scale and barely apparently with an "F+" Move that up to a D- and even he "passes."
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If you want to watch the replay just watch the first half. At the end of the 2nd quarter the Spurs got down to double digits, but that's with Beli playing the entire quarter, turning the ball over 3 times, bricking midrange shots, etc., etc.
F+ is way to generous, should be F---------------
Kawhi Leonard: A+
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