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    It's so sad to watch "armchair GM's" get it a lot better than the people that is actually on charge.

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    Spurs fans showing their wisdom and seeing the big picture here too.
    Nope. First, it's not a massive overpay. Two, y'all can't about some of the awful at udes and then complain when they try to keep the culture going and just mock it. Third, they expected to have kawhi. Fourth, he's easily been worth his contract this year.

    ing at everything and then acting prescient when it FINALLY falls apart is hilarious.

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    Nope. First, it's not a massive overpay. Two, y'all can't about some of the awful at udes and then complain when they try to keep the culture going and just mock it. Third, they expected to have kawhi. Fourth, he's easily been worth his contract this year.

    ing at everything and then acting prescient when it FINALLY falls apart is hilarious.
    Disagree 100%. Mills proved to be unplayable in the playoffs so that was 100% true. His “culture” obviously has meant nothing given the fact having him on the team has not prevented awful at udes and losing. Lastly, it was a bad deal WITH Kawhi for the reasons I stated and even worse without him.

    This is not some hindsight thing; it was literally called out immediately.

    Sure, Mills is playing well for a player like Mills; just look what it gets you. Nothing.

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    Nope. First, it's not a massive overpay. Two, y'all can't about some of the awful at udes and then complain when they try to keep the culture going and just mock it. Third, they expected to have kawhi. Fourth, he's easily been worth his contract this year.

    ing at everything and then acting prescient when it FINALLY falls apart is hilarious.
    Mills is playing as well as one can possibly can expect and yet it's not worth what he's getting. Just goes to show you that the signing was an awful one.

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    Disagree 100%. Mills proved to be unplayable in the playoffs so that was 100% true. His “culture” obviously has meant nothing given the fact having him on the team has not prevented awful at udes and losing. Lastly, it was a bad deal WITH Kawhi for the reasons I stated and even worse without him.

    This is not some hindsight thing; it was literally called out immediately.

    Sure, Mills is playing well for a player like Mills; just look what it gets you. Nothing.
    Of course it gets you nothing when the coach is literally sabotaging the team and you don't have a star player capable of carrying the team. Mills is not perfect. He's never going to be. The idea that this is a massive overpay if this were a compe ive team is utterly false.

    You're saying its this bad with Mills here ignoring that it could be way worse. Mills is a good teammate to have around and very important for the youth. MORESO when your best players are mentally weak AF.


    People out EVERYTHING immediately on this site DPG. They're wrong way more than their right, so I'm not going to see here and be like "WOW YA'LL ARE SO SMART" when the collective broken clock is right.

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    Mills is playing as well as one can possibly can expect and yet it's not worth what he's getting. Just goes to show you that the signing was an awful one.
    Disagree its not worth what they're getting. If the two "stars" on this team were worth a damn it would definitely be a worth it. If the coach hadn't completely lost his damn mind it would be worth it.

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    Nope. First, it's not a massive overpay. ...
    It's a massive overpay. It's $4 million more than Fred VanVleet.

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    Disagree its not worth what they're getting. If the two "stars" on this team were worth a damn it would definitely be a worth it. If the coach hadn't completely lost his damn mind it would be worth it.
    It's the first year that its arguable that he deserves his salary though. We still have to see how long he keeps it up, and whether theres a big dropoff in the playoffs (if they make it). He shot 20% from the field and 10% from three last years playoffs ffs.

    I kind of defended the deal when it was made but that was mainly because I thought these kind of deals were going to be the norm after all the crazy deals were given when the salary cap went up. I also expected him to play like he has this year for most of his deal. In hindsight, it was a dumbass deal that overvalued his value off the court.

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    Of course it gets you nothing when the coach is literally sabotaging the team and you don't have a star player capable of carrying the team. Mills is not perfect. He's never going to be. The idea that this is a massive overpay if this were a compe ive team is utterly false.

    You're saying its this bad with Mills here ignoring that it could be way worse. Mills is a good teammate to have around and very important for the youth. MORESO when your best players are mentally weak AF.


    People out EVERYTHING immediately on this site DPG. They're wrong way more than their right, so I'm not going to see here and be like "WOW YA'LL ARE SO SMART" when the collective broken clock is right.
    That’s fair - Im just a believer in my fellow Spurs fans tbh...I’m an optimist by nature

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    12 points and two dimes is fine for $12.5 ,i mean compared to forbes(3 mil per)mills looks like an allstar

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    Nope. First, it's not a massive overpay. Two, y'all can't about some of the awful at udes and then complain when they try to keep the culture going and just mock it. Third, they expected to have kawhi. Fourth, he's easily been worth his contract this year.

    ing at everything and then acting prescient when it FINALLY falls apart is hilarious.
    Mills is not overpaid now, but he was back then. You forget that the salary cap goes up every year, so 2 years ago his salary was way too high and his contract way to long. He also wasn't playing nearly as good as he is now

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    It's a massive overpay. It's $4 million more than Fred VanVleet.
    and Lou Williams

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    But sweet lou took less to help the clips out.hopefully mills will do the same after next season

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    But sweet lou took less to help the clips out.hopefully mills will do the same after next season
    Nice troll job

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    It's so sad to watch "armchair GM's" get it a lot better than the people that is actually on charge.
    I would argue that internet forum posters should benefit more from "crowd wisdom" than NBA executives who limit their wisdom to the few people they respect and regularly come into contact with. In the internet age, everyone has access to all the information in the world - and we regularly expose ourselves to the full spectrum of opinions on any given topic. People who are in positions of power often exist in echo chambers where they only hear the same opinions all the time, and they tend to look down on "outsiders" with a dismissive at ude. "Why the would I read an internet forum?" says the NBA executive in his arrogant, dismissive voice. But to ask that question misses the point. Wisdom lies not in any particular forum or post, but in the collective wisdom of all the combined voices around the world, with the many perspectives they bring to the table.

    Perhaps they would benefit from reading outsider opinions from time to time.

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    Mills was overpaid. But its hard to put a figure on chemistry and locker room culture/leadership. Locker room chemistry is a stat that cannot be measured, and sounds lame when the team is looking as inept as the Spurs are right now.

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