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    https://www.spurstalk.com/san-antoni...-moves-decade/

    The Gist: Mostly from the past five seasons, we all know what number one is...

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    The Spurs Best Front Office Decisions of the Decade:

    https://www.spurstalk.com/san-antonio-spurs-best-front-office-moves-decade/

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    Patty Mills' 50 mills not in the list?! Constantly bringing back Bonner not in the list?! Getting Ayres not in the list?! Getting Joffrey not in the list?! Come on, man...but thanks for the article, nonetheless and Merry Xmas, tbh.

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    nah kawhi. the only bad part of that trade was it shoulda been done sooner.

    merry christmas to all except the leonards. ok even them but kawhi

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    Patty Mills' 50 mills not in the list?! Constantly bringing back Bonner not in the list?! Getting Ayres not in the list?! Getting Joffrey not in the list?! Come on, man...but thanks for the article, nonetheless and Merry Xmas, tbh.
    Mills and Joffrey are on the list

    Mills is under the "2017 off-season" as was Joff, who I was fairly harsh on.

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    Ayers was considered but his signing alone didn't warrant inclusion tbh.

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    Keep em coming cal

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    Didn't need you to ruin my Christmas morning, Cal, but great article lol. Luckily it seems like we're finally starting to move away from the consequences of the 2017 offseason. Patty's contract is down to two years and is less brutal right now considering how well he's playing.

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    Didn't need you to ruin my Christmas morning, Cal, but great article lol. Luckily it seems like we're finally starting to move away from the consequences of the 2017 offseason. Patty's contract is down to two years and is less brutal right now considering how well he's playing.
    yeah, we are suffering the consequences of the 2019 offseason now, cause this front office can't stop making dumb decisions. No Bertans, an overpaid Carroll who won't get any playing time but is signed for 3 years, an overpaid Rudy Gay and Demar DeRozan

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    Ayers was considered but his signing alone didn't warrant inclusion tbh.
    We shouldn't be too rough on Ayres. He was good luck at least. The team won it all with him on the roster. He's now with a Japanese team on Okinawa, btw.

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    Nice read. Thank you.

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    We shouldn't be too rough on Ayres. He was good luck at least. The team won it all with him on the roster. He's now with a Japanese team on Okinawa, btw.
    He played too much his first season but was a deep bench guy his second season.

    He did have the worst hands of any player I've ever watched, but also a weirdly good finisher and pretty good rebounder- go figure. Ultimately wasn't a disastrous signing, given the price.
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    He played too much his first season but was a deep bench guy his second season.

    He did have the worst hands of any player I've ever watched, but also a weirdly good finisher and pretty good rebounder- go figure. Ultimately wasn't a disastrous signing, given the price.
    Oh yeah, I remember about Ayres' hands. Sometimes the way it looked, you'd think he was trying to catch the ball with a tennis racket.

    I checked the advanced stats, for TOV% (turnovers per 100 plays.) Using Aldridge for comparison. LMA has a TOV% this year so far of 8.0 That's good, LMA has sure hands. Ayres' TOV% his first season with the Spurs was 24.1. Ew. Those hands.

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    excellent article. PATFO

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    yeah, we are suffering the consequences of the 2019 offseason now, cause this front office can't stop making dumb decisions. No Bertans, an overpaid Carroll who won't get any playing time but is signed for 3 years, an overpaid Rudy Gay and Demar DeRozan
    I don’t think you can blame the front office for trading Bertans, it was the right move for Morris and it’s well do ented what happened. Idk who to blame for Carroll, but I think he replaces Belinelli at some point

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    Nothing we didn't already know. -- spurstalk

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    I don’t think you can blame the front office for trading Bertans, it was the right move for Morris and it’s well do ented what happened. Idk who to blame for Carroll, but I think he replaces Belinelli at some point
    My issue with the trade was less that they traded Bertans and more that they didn't utilize him properly when they had him.

    For previous articles, I looked over lineup stats from last season and it was clear how impactful Bertans was to the offense. Some lineups with Bertans has outrageously net ratings, and that wasn't isolated to last season either.

    Getting both Morris and Carroll would have boosted the defense for sure, and apparently Morris could've really helped on offense too. The idea was fine but the follow through was the issue.

    Just getting Carroll and then not even playing him was what made it a bad decision.

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    My issue with the trade was less that they traded Bertans and more that they didn't utilize him properly when they had him.

    For previous articles, I looked over lineup stats from last season and it was clear how impactful Bertans was to the offense. Some lineups with Bertans has outrageously net ratings, and that wasn't isolated to last season either.

    Getting both Morris and Carroll would have boosted the defense for sure, and apparently Morris could've really helped on offense too. The idea was fine but the follow through was the issue.

    Just getting Carroll and then not even playing him was what made it a bad decision.
    right on cue

    "Ha, net rating. That's a hoax"

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    Oh yeah, I remember about Ayres' hands. Sometimes the way it looked, you'd think he was trying to catch the ball with a tennis racket.

    I checked the advanced stats, for TOV% (turnovers per 100 plays.) Using Aldridge for comparison. LMA has a TOV% this year so far of 8.0 That's good, LMA has sure hands. Ayres' TOV% his first season with the Spurs was 24.1. Ew. Those hands.
    Wow, that's pretty damn bad tbh. Doesn't surprise me about Aldridge thought, he's known for being a low turnover player.

    Nate Duncan mentioned on his podcast, a while back, that LMA turned it over just nine times in 1100 post-up possessions during the 17-18 season.

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    Article based on false assumptions, writers misinformed bad opinions and god knows what else-

    no thanks - will skip futher articles from this writer.

    unless he does research and writes factual info

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    Article based on false assumptions, writers misinformed bad opinions and god knows what else-

    no thanks - will skip futher articles from this writer.

    unless he does research and writes factual info

    That's your opinion, isn't it?

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    Just getting Carroll and then not even playing him was what made it a bad decision.

    When they pick up a guy who basically gets zero minutes, it says to me that they didn't do their homework before signing him.
    They could have held a roster spot. They could have held onto the money until the trade deadline.

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    Didn't mention re-signing Mills over CoJo?

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    Quite a few bad FO signings. But there's not a whole lot an organization can do when prime FAs want nothing to do with S.A.? Continuously drafting in the low first round hasn't helped either.

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    Didn't mention re-signing Mills over CoJo?
    Considering COJO is on his 4th team, there really was no need to.

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