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K, I'll make this easy.
true or false:
the Christian baker is a bigot because he denies the gays a wedding cake just because they're gays
The hatchling, desperate for a victory, begins to flap it’s wings furiously and cluck in a mocking fashion. However it’s unaware of it’s surroundings and slips & falls into the Pit of Self-Ownage. The hatchling struggles as it drowns in a puddle of irony, shrieking for it’s mother hen to come to it’s rescue...
K, I'll make this easy.
true or false:
the Christian baker is a bigot because he denies the gays a wedding cake just because they're gays
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That spam sh** is lame when RandomCuck does it.that you decided it was cool, Slob.
Close enough.
"Not at all. Evangelicals have always been bad, IMO."...RG
I get a chuckle when I read "being a Christian is a choice". Is being atheist a choice? No. It's the default position based on what you are compelled to believe. If you can choose to believe something, you're likely delusional. I am atheist because it's what has developed from my experiences and rationalizations. Saying that's my choice is saying "I don't understand epistemology".
Religious persecution isn't choice persecution. There's a reason religion is protected. Pretending you can be prejudiced about religious folks because you're not religious doesn't make it true. It's just another form of bigotry.
When someone says "most Christians are like this.." odd that no one shows up and says "prove it". How the do you know how most Christians act? You can only say how most that you have encountered act. Painting everyone with the same brush is akin to being racist because you had bad experiences, or being sexist for the same reasons. Pretend it's not all you like.
Last edited by DMC; 12-28-2019 at 07:02 PM.
Oh good.
Now please lecture on free will.
Why not?
You want to go into choice making.
Fire away professor.
The difference between personal secularity and sexual orientation is not that one is a choice and the other isn't, because both have causal factors that eliminate choice. The difference is that sexual orientation is determined almost entirely by biology, whereas religious disbelief is much more a combination of biology and environment. But in both cases, there's really no choice.
What other non value added dingleberry would you like to onto the forum?
BS on both bolded.
You skipped free will.
Great. I am more than willing to state:
It is ridiculous to say sexual orientation is almost entirely determined by biology.
And religious disbelief has is a combination biological and environmental factors.
Wtf do biological factors have to do with religious disbelief? Explain.
Sexual orientation is a natural part of who you are — it’s not a choice. Your sexual orientation can change over your lifetime.
What causes sexual orientation?
It’s not completely known why someone might be lesbian, gay, straight, or bisexual. But research shows that sexual orientation is likely caused partly by biological factors that start before birth. -Planned parenthood
Abstract
Sexual orientation is one of the largest sex differences in humans. The vast majority of the population is heterosexual, that is, they are attracted to members of the opposite sex. However, a small but significant proportion of people are bisexual or sexual and experience attraction to members of the same sex. The origins of the phenomenon have long been the subject of scientific study. In this chapter, we will review the evidence that sexual orientation has biological underpinnings and consider the involvement of epigenetic mechanisms. We will first discuss studies that show that sexual orientation has a genetic component. These studies show that sexual orientation is more concordant in monozygotic twins than in dizygotic ones and that male sexual orientation is linked to several regions of the genome. -National Ins ute of Health
But this does not mean that today's religious skeptics choose not to believe. Instead, we can see that personal secularity is primarily the result of brain function combined with access to knowledge, information, and a social setting allowing disbelief. Given the right conditions, the result will be an individual who does not accept supernatural explanations.
"Wtf do biological factors have to do with religious disbelief? Explain."
Low IQ folks are more likely to be theists. You won't find many low IQ atheists.
And there are studies that roundly refute the idea that sexual orientation is mostly genetic.Sexual orientation is a natural part of who you are — it’s not a choice. Your sexual orientation can change over your lifetime.
What causes sexual orientation?
It’s not completely known why someone might be lesbian, gay, straight, or bisexual. But research shows that sexual orientation is likely caused partly by biological factors that start before birth. -Planned parenthood
Abstract
Sexual orientation is one of the largest sex differences in humans. The vast majority of the population is heterosexual, that is, they are attracted to members of the opposite sex. However, a small but significant proportion of people are bisexual or sexual and experience attraction to members of the same sex. The origins of the phenomenon have long been the subject of scientific study. In this chapter, we will review the evidence that sexual orientation has biological underpinnings and consider the involvement of epigenetic mechanisms. We will first discuss studies that show that sexual orientation has a genetic component. These studies show that sexual orientation is more concordant in monozygotic twins than in dizygotic ones and that male sexual orientation is linked to several regions of the genome. -National Ins ute of Health
To say that upbringing has nothing to do with sexual orientation is pure BS. If it is purely genetic what genes on the sex chromosomes control this.
This not even close to some final work. If this study was considered the classic on this subject it would be read in textbooks it has now been determined that sexual orientation is vastly a genetic controlled behavior, not an environmentally controlled behavior. You read one article out of a Psychology magazine and call it? Thats BS science.
And again:
And religious disbelief has is a combination biological and environmental factors.
Wtf do biological factors have to do with religious disbelief? Explain.
You are basically saying the ability to rely on evidence is a genetic factor. That is also a stunning statement.
Im not an expert. But I certainly know enough to say it has not been determined how much of sexual orientation is controlled by genetic factors.
Last edited by pgardn; 12-28-2019 at 08:39 PM.
I answered that already
Im not an expert. But I certainly know enough to say it has not been determined how much of sexual orientation is controlled by genetic factors.
Tell what?I answered that already
Yes so did I. Wait for it, Wait for it...
To say that most human behavior is vastly genetic takes proof that we dont have the ability to say with any degree of certainty yet.
Its that simple.
To say that blue eyes is a largely genetic trait is much more straightforward.
What do you want? Alcoholism, addictive behavior, many behaviors we are interested in definitely have a genetic component. But to say its vastly genetic is insane.
Is this understandable?
You're arguing against the authorities and added "I'm no expert".
You also ed up your quote tags.
The authorities...
You dont know enough to know what I have stated is the authoritative state of the situation.
And I messed up my quote tags... The OCD is getting worse?
You're disagreeing without any stated reason, with well established authorities on the subject, and you expect to have an audience? You just decided to chime in and stepped into water deeper than you expected, now you're struggling to recover. You said you're not the expert.
Yes, fix your quote tags. Don't attribute words to me I didn't say.
Biological theories for explaining the causes of sexual orientation are favored by scientists. These factors, which may be related to the development of a sexual orientation, include genes, the early uterine environment (such as prenatal hormones), and brain structure.
Dmc avoiding his claim backing duties here using diversion tactics
What claim did I make to you?
Favor?
Favor?
You said ALMOST ENTIRELY.
That is a huge jump.
ALMOST ENTIRELY means environment has almost zero influence.
That is absolutely not the state of affairs as we know it currently.
Btw uterine environment is.... unbelievably enough, environment.
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