Seriously, this thread - on a per post basis - has the worst takes in a long long time.
tell me why?? this roster has everything: defense,3pt shooters, offense, spacing etc. Plus an all star in drussel. Show me spurss player that is better now than him.
zach lavine is waaay better than him. Drummond and gordon are slightly better now but they are younger so in a 1-2yrs they would be much better than aldridge. In a long term those 3 players are undoubtful an improvement for spurs.
Last edited by spurspl; 12-29-2019 at 08:04 AM.
LA and Demar aren’t exactly going to fetch you a Jayson Tatum , Jaylen Brown , Brandon Ingram , Marcus Smart , Jrue Holiday , Pascal Siakam, De’Aaron Fox type of player... just being somewhat realistic in what we can get ... sheesh lighten up... I still think the players on my list improve the spurs in the long run...
Last edited by Realdeal1; 12-29-2019 at 08:40 AM.
Aldridge outplayed Drummond last night and you still don't see the light of the day
Lavine is a worse shooter than Aldridge from everywhere on the floor. He's also a bad defender. This team doesn't need more bad defenders. Aldridge even has a better Assist to Turnover ratio than Lavine.
I know that. But none of these players are young talented guys who will make a jump long term and some of them, like Love for example, are on terrible overpaid deals. I'm simply saying I wouldn't include Aldridge in any of these trades.
Drummond consistently gets you 20/20 games, is a decade younger and a much better defender. LMA has always had the talent and ability to be great. The problem is that he’s mentally weak and disappears against good teams and in the playoffs. Like his 12pts/4rbds against LAC and his 3pts/4rbds against Boston. Using you’re logic of looking at head to head you’d say LMA isn’t as good as Zubac or Theis....both of which outplayed LMA head to head.Aldridge outplayed Drummond last night and you still don't see the light of the day
Lavine is a worse shooter than Aldridge from everywhere on the floor. He's also a bad defender. This team doesn't need more bad defenders. Aldridge even has a better Assist to Turnover ratio than Lavine.
I know that. But none of these players are young talented guys who will make a jump long term and some of them, like Love for example, are on terrible overpaid deals. I'm simply saying I wouldn't include Aldridge in any of these trades.
LaVine is 12yrs younger, a better scorer than LMA, can get his scoring with fast break transition points, and is a good 3pt shooter. No LMA is not a better shooter than he is.
obviously Love is older and has a bad contract. In order to do a trade for him we’d need to get a draft pick with him as well. LMA or Love and lottery pick? I’d take the latter
I'm still for moving DDR and Forbes but, since we are essentially tied for 8th, if we wanted to improve our PO chances and not totally screw the future something like this would be interesting (and yes I know all the ny won't trade with us and we dont want him back bs is out there)
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=wg3ucf2
Or
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=wqhlcv3
With a pick attached
Last edited by mo7888; 12-29-2019 at 10:37 AM.
If LaVine is a better shooter than why is he shooting a worse percentage? Also what has Drummond done in the playoffs? Like ever? LA just has slow starts to the season, he's still better than Drummond. I get the age factor, but I don't think either are a good fit for the team. I got my eyes on RoCo, Gallo and Gordon as well, but would want them playing next to Aldridge cause they would fit well.
Just for the record...
my 3 favorite proposed trades are:
1) Murray/DDR for LaVine/OPJ
2) Murray/DDR/Poetl for Drummond/Jackson/1st Rd Pick
3) DDR for Gordon/Ross
To be fair those are all DDR centric trades. And you could keep LMA on those teams. Moving LMA is much harder. These are the only good trades for him that I’ve seen so far:
1) LMA for Hayward/1st Rd Pick
2) LMA for Whiteside/1st Rd Pick
I haven’t seen much else that I like so far.
So with those Aldridge trades are you suggesting to tank the 2020-21 season or pick up a certain big?
I just don't see how any of these trades improve the team long term. I'd rather try to add a starting PF to the team we have now by moving 2 of Belinelli/Carroll/Forbes/Mills/Lyles
The LMA trades have to be complementary to one of the DDR trades above. I wouldn’t do an LMA trade by itself. Used together these trades improve the talent on the roster and drop the age of the roster down significantly. So you get better and younger at the same time. So no...not tanking.
You can still do that trade. Didn’t list any of these names in my trade options above.
You have a more talented roster that is also younger. That helps the franchise longterm.
You do realize the OPJ is injury prone and has been out for most fo they year? I dont see how that makes us much better. Lavine is not a winner.
Drummond does not fit the league anymore. He would have been good against Shaq.
I will stick with my trades.
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yxyrbv7x
DDR gets closer to home.
We get rid of marco and Bryn. they could see Bryn and DDR as future players. We get a SF that can actually play that position and another big to warm the bench maybe trade him somewhere else.
NY would be hard to trade with.
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=qr9d55y we would also get their rookie pick. NY is wanting to get a star player. It thy would not give up Barret then Payton or Ellington. I would rather sub out a worse player then lose their pick.
KAT is unhappy in minny, probably gonna be traded. I just wanna make some trade scenarios but guess what, we dont have any good enough players nor picks, well done patfo
I got my eyes on Bogdanovic, Covington and Gallo, but I don't think we got anything that those teams would want in return
Unless somebody wants lma/derozan/walker/white/murray our mills,carrol,belli,Forbes,lyles poo poo platter isnt going to cut itI got my eyes on Bogdanovic, Covington and Gallo, but I don't think we got anything that those teams would want in return
if we get bogdanovic(lavine) gordon and bamba while keeping murray loonie and white thats a huge big A+ for PATFO. Id even forget this horrible kawhis trade.
Rumor has it that KAT is not happy in Minny. If that's true Spurs should be on the damn phone offering to pony up whatever Minny wants. He's kind of overrated and soft but kid has a lot of talent he wont realize wasting away in Minnesota. Duncan coaching this kid might unleash the beast.
For sure - but I don’t think SA would have enough. He would probably net a PG to Clippers type deal (not quite as much since there’s no Kawhi with him, but the point was it would be a fierce bidding war).
But yeah, if you can actually land a KAT then you offer up whatever it takes.
Twolves would only be interested in youth a picks. Spurs would need to offer White, Walker, DD, Gay, Poeltl for Towns and their over payed backup center.
Dubs will get him for Russel and their #1 pick
if we took LA deal for kawhis and tank this season we would have 1#pick and ball/ingram/hart + lma and our young players to trade. But we have stupid management as and no chance to get KAT.
They don’t. Last I heard, they still think they can get assets for him. The fact that they’re in the playoff mix helps their cause.
And if he gets injured in that opt in year? He’d be looking at Rudy Gay money for the last few years of his career. I don’t think he has six good years left, so he’ll never reach that $64M plateau.
I think the wolves would be ok with this trade. Basically disgruntled KAT for Russell and Wiseman
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