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    Do you not understand that society is a construct? That in reality we are all individuals? You cannot shoot society. You can shoot an individual. While congress is tied up doing what-the- -ever, individuals have the right to defend themselves - so sayeth the 2nd Amendment. It's still your right to not do so however. You have the right to wait for legislation and evolution to change society. Good luck with that.
    Oh neat semantic mode engaged now to give himself a feeling of victory

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    When did I say that?
    So you do want congress to act on gun control legislation???? You are very confusing.

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    A straw man is a form of argument and an informal fallacy based on giving the impression of refuting an opponent's argument, while actually refuting an argument that was not presented by that opponent.

    I did not present the argument that more guns everywhere was a solution - you did, after saying "armed people" you extrapolated that to "more guns". Then you asked me to defend it.
    Does this mean that having more guns everywhere will make us safer?
    Show me exactly where I asked you to defend anything. This is a yes or no question.

    Feel free to fit it into the actual structure of the strawman. Your claim, your burden of proof.

    The straw man fallacy occurs in the following pattern of argument:

    Person 1 asserts proposition X.
    Person 2 argues against a superficially similar proposition Y, falsely, as if an argument against Y were an argument against X.

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    Infowars is definitely an advocate for people having more guns, and tries to make the case.
    https://www.infowars.com/18-little-k...make-us-safer/

    NRA certainly goes down that route:
    "Guns make colleges safer"

    https://www.nraila.org/articles/2009...colleges-safer

    "women with guns make america safer"
    https://www.nraila.org/articles/2002...-america-safer

    Which Is Safer? More Guns Or Fewer?
    https://www.nraila.org/articles/2007...-guns-or-fewer

    How about the "general position of the NRA"


    https://www.foxnews.com/health/areas...hs-study-finds
    I don't listen to or read Infowars and have stated here many times Alex Jones is a fraud and idiot. I see no reason to defend a stance I haven't taken. argument from Infowars... new fallacy
    The general stance can be found here:
    https://www.foxnews.com/transcript/guns-in-america
    Why should I defend anything I didn't say?

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    Show me exactly where I asked you to defend anything. This is a yes or no question.

    Feel free to fit it into the actual structure of the strawman. Your claim, your burden of proof.
    When you ask me something like that, based on something else you just said, you are indeed asking me to support or deny something I didn't claim. "Yes or no" is just that.

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    So you do want congress to act on gun control legislation???? You are very confusing.
    Again, when did I say that? Don't just ignore what you claimed I said then ask another question.

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    I have seen many gun advocates suggest that more guns everywhere will make people in general safer. Do you agree with that or not? Why or why not?
    Why should I defend anything I didn't say?
    I haven't asked you to defend anything you didn't say.

    I have asked you what your actual position is.

    no-take meltdown.

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    Show me exactly where I asked you to defend anything. This is a yes or no question.

    Feel free to fit it into the actual structure of the strawman. Your claim, your burden of proof.
    When you ask me something like that, based on something else you just said, you are indeed asking me to support or deny something I didn't claim. "Yes or no" is just that.
    So you can't fit it into the strawman form.

    If you could, you would have.

    The straw man fallacy occurs in the following pattern of argument:

    Person 1 asserts proposition X.
    Person 2 argues against a superficially similar proposition Y, falsely, as if an argument against Y were an argument against X.

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    Again, when did I say that? Don't just ignore what you claimed I said then ask another question.
    I said that was your position... I concluded that was your position based on how unreceptive you've been to the prospect of better gun control legislation. For example:

    But my point is that neither you nor I can personally create the scenario you're talking about. A realistic measure beats wishful thinking.
    Feel free to correct me on your position if that's wrong... Are you for or against congress passing new gun control legislation?

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    Kinnunen's criminal history includes an arrest in River Oaks for possession of narcotics in 2009 and an arrest in 2016 for unlawful possession of a weapon in Linden, New Jersey, the source said.
    https://www.yahoo.com/gma/parishione...opstories.html

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    Once P45* is dictator, he's coming for all your guns.

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    I haven't asked you to defend anything you didn't say.

    I have asked you what your actual position is.

    no-take meltdown.
    Do I agree that you've seen what you claim to have seen? Do I agree with what "gun advocates (whatever that means)" said?

    If the former, sure.. I have no reason to disagree you saw that.

    If the latter, don't paraphrase and ask if I agree. Show the quote. I am not going to click links and read articles - and get to the ing point.

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    I don't listen to or read Infowars and have stated here many times Alex Jones is a fraud and idiot. I see no reason to defend a stance I haven't taken. argument from Infowars... new fallacy


    Why should I defend anything I didn't say?
    he literally did what you asked and now you dismiss it

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    So you can't fit it into the strawman form.

    If you could, you would have.
    Idiot, that's how strawman works. It's always your claim. If it was mine it wouldn't be a strawman.

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    Idiot, that's how strawman works. It's always your claim. If it was mine it wouldn't be a strawman.
    Uh oh I sense emotion kicking in

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    Uh oh I sense emotion kicking in
    Again, you have zero to contribute. You're always a sidekick. Must come naturally to you.

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    he literally did what you asked and now you dismiss it
    Did you read the articles in the posted links?

    Each is talking about something different. One is talking about gun free zones not being safe from gun violence. It's not the same as saying "more guns everywhere is the solution".

    Show me someone saying more guns everywhere is the solution, even if it's not my argument, and I will discuss it. Until then it's just misdirection, like always, from the forum clowns.

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    I said that was your position... I concluded that was your position based on how unreceptive you've been to the prospect of better gun control legislation. For example:



    Feel free to correct me on your position if that's wrong... Are you for or against congress passing new gun control legislation?
    So you don't know my position but you're comfortable telling me what it is anyhow?

    I am all for new gun control legislation if it's effective and not a placebo. The placebo legislation is what salves the left, because, as I said, they are gun ignorant. Hey though, no bayonet lugs or forearm grips! In another thread you wanted legislation on assault rifles yet assault rifles were banned 35 years ago. You called it unimportant for the discussion. Then you suggested it's too easy to get a carry permit, at least to lawfully carry. I showed you it's not. When you decide to catch up to reality instead of expecting the gun savvy crowd to spoon feed you facts on demand, maybe someone will give a about your opinion. Your concern is one thing, but you're obviously not motivated to learn about it.

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    not even gonna waste time in yet another gun argument thread -

    but has DoxxMC threatened to doxx anyone yet?



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    I am all for new gun control legislation if it's effective and not a placebo.
    It took 8 pages to get that out of you, but now we know. Thanks! Me too by the way!!!

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    not even gonna waste time in yet another gun argument thread -

    but has DoxxMC threatened to doxx anyone yet?


    You posted here already, idiot

    Do you carry a firearm?

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    I have seen many gun advocates suggest that more guns everywhere will make people in general safer. Do you agree with that or not? Why or why not?
    Why should I defend anything I didn't say?
    I haven't asked you to defend anything you didn't say.

    I have asked you what your actual position is.

    no-take meltdown.
    Do I agree that you've seen what you claim to have seen? Do I agree with what "gun advocates (whatever that means)" said?

    If the former, sure.. I have no reason to disagree you saw that.

    If the latter, don't paraphrase and ask if I agree. Show the quote. I am not going to click links and read articles - and get to the ing point.
    no-take meltdown continues.

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    Again, you have zero to contribute. You're always a sidekick. Must come naturally to you.
    I've already done this same rodeo with you with all the same posts. You're not contributing anything new here either. I'm just here to lol when you say something ridiculous

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    no-take meltdown continues.
    No he provided a take. He’s for effective dun legislation!!!

    Top notch contribution DMC!

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    no-take meltdown continues.
    So I never said any of the you're asking me to confirm. Got it. See how easy that was?

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