Dallas Church Shooting

[RandomGuy]

I have seen many gun advocates suggest that more guns everywhere will make people in general safer. Do you agree with that or not? Why or why not?

Why should I defend anything I didn't say?

I haven't asked you to defend anything you didn't say.

I have asked you what your actual position is.

no-take meltdown.

Do I agree that you've seen what you claim to have seen? Do I agree with what "gun advocates (whatever that means)" said?

If the former, sure.. I have no reason to disagree you saw that.

If the latter, don't paraphrase and ask if I agree. Show the quote. I am not going to click links and read articles - and get to the ing point.

no-take meltdown continues.

So I never said any of the you're asking me to confirm. Got it. See how easy that was?

no-take meltdown continues.

RG: Some people say chocolate ice cream is the best flavor of ice cream. Do you agree? or think another flavor is better?

DMC: I never said about liking chocolate ice-cream, don't ask me to defend that statement.

[RandomGuy]

Make a statement of your own,.

Does have a take, demands others have a take.

[RandomGuy]

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[Spurminator]

That guy is a badass in part because he's an ex-FBI agent who runs a gun range and qualifies as a sharpshooter from all positions, quarterly.

What are the chances?

Conservatives love these stories because they imagine themselves to be just as capable of stopping an invasion with a kickass headshot if only the libs would quit trying to take them guns away.

[RandomGuy]

Conservatives love these stories because they imagine themselves to be just as capable of stopping an invasion with a kickass headshot if only the libs would quit trying to take them guns away.

Exactly.

I am waiting for the first such incident where some untrained Rambo wannabe gets his (and it will be a man) ass shot by the cops who show up and have to make a split-second threat assessment, or some idiots shoot each other, each thinking that other is the shooter.

The vast majority of people are much less well-trained, and that increases the potential for accidents and other negative outcomes. More guns invariably means more accidental shootings, and more successful suicides. That is what the data says.

[TheGreatYacht]

Exactly.

I am waiting for the first such incident where some untrained Rambo wannabe gets his (and it will be a man) ass shot by the cops who show up and have to make a split-second threat assessment, or some idiots shoot each other, each thinking that other is the shooter.

The vast majority of people are much less well-trained, and that increases the potential for accidents and other negative outcomes. More guns invariably means more accidental shootings, and more successful suicides. That is what the data says.

it's bound to happen tbh...

[DMC]

Conservatives love these stories because they imagine themselves to be just as capable of stopping an invasion with a kickass headshot if only the libs would quit trying to take them guns away.

liberal narrative
hero is a conservative
"just as capable" vs cowering behind a bench, waiting to die

[DMC]

no-take meltdown continues.

RG: Some people say chocolate ice cream is the best flavor of ice cream. Do you agree? or think another flavor is better?

DMC: I never said about liking chocolate ice-cream, don't ask me to defend that statement.

Does have a take, demands others have a take.

..

RG meltdown again

[ChumpDumper]

Chumpy going on an all-nighter again. Livin' the dream

You posted later than I did.

About me.

I am your dream.

[RandomGuy]

I have seen many gun advocates suggest that more guns everywhere will make people in general safer. Do you agree with that or not? Why or why not?

Why should I defend anything I didn't say?

I haven't asked you to defend anything you didn't say.

I have asked you what your actual position is.

no-take meltdown.

Do I agree that you've seen what you claim to have seen? Do I agree with what "gun advocates (whatever that means)" said?

If the former, sure.. I have no reason to disagree you saw that.

If the latter, don't paraphrase and ask if I agree. Show the quote. I am not going to click links and read articles - and get to the ing point.

no-take meltdown continues.

So I never said any of the you're asking me to confirm. Got it. See how easy that was?

no-take meltdown continues.

RG: Some people say chocolate ice cream is the best flavor of ice cream. Do you agree? or think another flavor is better?

DMC: I never said about liking chocolate ice-cream, don't ask me to defend that statement.

RG meltdown again

"i'm not a meltdown, you're a meltdown"



Still can't answer simple questions. Still don't understand logical fallacies.

You got one schtick, which is personal attacks, and can't even do that effectively. You are on the same level as ducks koriwhat, and derptacular. Better spelling and grammar, tho. Boutons at least has a viewpoint that he can support, in that he is above your level which is ironic, given your feeble attempts at putting him down.

[Spurtacular]

You posted later than I did.

About me.

I am your dream.

Sounds like another big tiny w for ya.

Now tell us how it's really only about DMC's L.

lol dump

[Chris]

liberal narrative
hero is a conservative
"just as capable" vs cowering behind a bench, waiting to die

"kickass headshot"

[Trainwreck2100]

Exactly.

I am waiting for the first such incident where some untrained Rambo wannabe gets his (and it will be a man) ass shot by the cops who show up and have to make a split-second threat assessment, or some idiots shoot each other, each thinking that other is the shooter.

The vast majority of people are much less well-trained, and that increases the potential for accidents and other negative outcomes. More guns invariably means more accidental shootings, and more successful suicides. That is what the data says.

I believe what happens before that is some Rambo kills an innocent trying to shoot the bad guy

[DMC]

I believe what happens before that is some Rambo kills an innocent trying to shoot the bad guy

The left leaned heavily on this "some Rambo" narrative while trying to oppose the CHL many years ago in Texas. They said there would be shootings in the streets, road rage shootings, Rambos everywhere.. but it never materialized.

You're like children who make up stories to pretend you know what the is going on, like you'd have any idea.

[SpursforSix]

Some comments regarding the crazy guy...

He was separately charged with arson that year after allegedly starting a fire in a cotton field by tying tampons soaked in lamp oil to the crop. Earlier on the day of that fire, Kinnunen soaked a football in the accelerant, lit it on fire and then threw it back and forth with his son, who was a minor, according to the arrest affidavit. The boy told police he was afraid his father would get mad if he asked to stop.

[ElNono]

How do we “strive for better” ElNono? Can you provide some examples of potentially “effective” gun control legislation. DMC supports additional effective gun control legislation but he’s incapable of expressing an actual opinion on what that might entail. You seem to be a pretty straight shooter. What are your thoughts?

I’ve mentioned it before. I think there’s value on universal background checks. I think a person diagnosed with depression, coming out of a traumatic divorce, and other difficult life situations need to be monitored closer. If needed, turn over any weapons they own until cleared by a professional. I also think there should be ongoing (maybe every two years?) psychological assessments on gun owners. Again, if you’re deemed a danger to yourself or other people, you have to get right before you can get them back.

Obviously, all this only works with additional enforcement and closing loopholes on the gun trade.

But, you know, last time I spoke about some of these things, TSA was adamant he wouldn’t want to be at the ‘mercy’ of a medical professional. I even offered having the ability to have a second opinion.

At some point they just have to say they’re just fine with the way things are, and all these senseless killings are the price to pay for muh gun freedom

[DMC]

"kickass headshot"

Only firearm experience from a first person shooter. Thinks everyone but LEOs have about the same experience as him.

[ElNono]

Yeah, I know you made a 98 on your exam, Billy.. and you were failing prior.. but 100 would be better. Chop chop

There are creative little ways people avoid giving credit where it's due. This is one of them.

Would you rate this incident a 98/100? I’ll put a 65, maybe 70 on it.

[DMC]

Would you rate this incident a 98/100? I’ll put a 65, maybe 70 on it.

It depends on how you look at it.

If you think the grade includes the guy walking in with the gun, then they the bed on that right away. However if you consider how the people dealt with the guy with the gun, I'd consider that in the mid 90's. One guy who was shot was drawing his weapon. The other guy was unarmed. The invader was the 3rd fatality. In a congregation of that size, I'd say it's a solid 95. If I was sitting in that church, I'd give it a bonus 105. You can really only consider it 70 or so if you draw an ideal scenario where the bad guy never got a gun to begin with, or he was stopped outside the church. Infinite regression comes into play though.

I'd be interested in knowing what you think the ideal scenario would be - given the fact an armed guy intent on killing people walks into a crowded room with a shotgun. How many points are extra lives worth?

[Blake]

Would you rate this incident a 98/100? I’ll put a 65, maybe 70 on it.

Two people died so that's minus two points on the DMC grading scale

Still an A+ though

[Spurtacular]

Two people died so that's minus two points on the DMC grading scale

Still an A+ though

One of the rare times you've fired off a joke that works.

See, I'm not an insecure cuck, so I can admit that.

[spurraider21]

I’ve mentioned it before. I think there’s value on universal background checks. I think a person diagnosed with depression, coming out of a traumatic divorce, and other difficult life situations need to be monitored closer. If needed, turn over any weapons they own until cleared by a professional. I also think there should be ongoing (maybe every two years?) psychological assessments on gun owners. Again, if you’re deemed a danger to yourself or other people, you have to get right before you can get them back.

Obviously, all this only works with additional enforcement and closing loopholes on the gun trade.

But, you know, last time I spoke about some of these things, TSA was adamant he wouldn’t want to be at the ‘mercy’ of a medical professional. I even offered having the ability to have a second opinion.

At some point they just have to say they’re just fine with the way things are, and all these senseless killings are the price to pay for muh gun freedom

mhm

[Blake]

One of the rare times you've fired off a joke that works.

See, I'm not an insecure cuck, so I can admit that.

If you ever finally fire off a joke that works I'll let you know

[spurraider21]

somebody builds home with unneccessarily flammable material, house catches fire, fire department puts out fire, saving 75% of home

you can laud the fire department for doing an excellent job, but can also look into building regulations and say that the house could have been built better. prevention >> mitigation

[DMC]

somebody builds home with unneccessarily flammable material, house catches fire, fire department puts out fire, saving 75% of home

you can laud the fire department for doing an excellent job, but can also look into building regulations and say that the house could have been built better. prevention >> mitigation

But we're judging the response, not the shooter. The church wasn't built to be shot up. The shooter is a given. You'd need a completely different test to judge the shooter.