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    Why's everyone always caught up on Covington? That dude is not winning ball. He's like in the Jeff Green category or Thad Young. Now if you want to talk up Forbes and do that trade... THAT would be great.

    Unfortunately there is some logic to this. Are the Spurs going to extend him? If not and he opts out or what ever then we are screwed. I say roll with DD and LA, two very unique players in the league. Roll with them and let's see if Lonnie, DJ and White are who we think they can be. This current team and a basketball "woke" coach can do some damage in the playoffs. I really think if anything we can get a SF that may be useful to us in a trade involving Forbes plus some other fodder.

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    DeRozan's stock hasn't gone up at all, nobody believes that he's somehow improved and reached a new ceiling at this point of his career. His value is the same as it has always been, this isn't the first time that he's had a great stretch in his career.

    Also, as flawed as he is, the thought of White, Murray and Walker leading an offense is painful defenses would adjust quickly, none of those guys possess the qualities to run an NBA offense as a lead option.
    Not as painful as a Kyle Anderson, Patty Mills lead one and we still managed to make the playoffs on a much tougher conference.

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    Not as painful as a Kyle Anderson, Patty Mills lead one and we still managed to make the playoffs on a much tougher conference.
    That team went 13-16 from February on and had the 28th ranked offense in the league during those last few months They would have easily missed the playoffs if they didn't have a fluky shooting start against literally the easiest schedule in the NBA.

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    i read that back at the start of the season but i also read other articles that brought up the possible drawbacks and orlando's need for outside shooting was one of them. some of the other articles i read suggested that if the magic would pursue such a trade it would because of the shooting woes of ross. it's been two months since the rumors started circulating so not sure if there is still any interest by either party. derozan has certainly played better as of late but i haven't paid enough attention to see if ross has. i just don't see that as worth it. for either team, really.

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    That team went 13-16 from February on and had the 28th ranked offense in the league during those last few months They would have easily missed the playoffs if they didn't have a fluky shooting start against literally the easiest schedule in the NBA.
    Do you really think a lineup of, let's say:

    Murray
    Walker
    Ross
    Gordon
    Aldridge

    White
    Mills
    Gay
    Lyles
    Poeltl

    wouldn't be in the contention for the 8th spot on this ty ass Western Conference?

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    But without a question. Covington fills that 3 and D void we so desperately lack and DeRozan's absence allows for guys like Walker, White and Murray to develop at a faster pace.
    De Rozan is not the reason our young guards are not developing. Decrease Forbes, Mills and Belinelli’s playing time and the 3 youngsters can play 28-32 minutes. Don’t resign Forbes and Belinelli. Extend De Rozan for 3 years 70 millions starting at 27, 23 and 20 and go after a star the following year when MIlls, Gay and Aldridge contracts are up.

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    De Rozan is not the reason our young guards are not developing. Decrease Forbes, Mills and Belinelli’s playing time and the 3 youngsters can play 28-32 minutes. Don’t resign Forbes and Belinelli. Extend De Rozan for 3 years 70 millions starting at 27, 23 and 20 and go after a star the following year when MIlls, Gay and Aldridge contracts are up.
    This is the part where you should stop talking, tbh.

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    lol ST experts

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    This is the part where you should stop talking, tbh.
    Why? Because it is too low or you think that this is too high. An argument would be better than emojis

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    With everything in me, I want to agree. But for what exactly? Who's walking through that door that will put us over the top? Spurs up draft picks like a virgin s up getting some pussy. No one we drafted is playing mins in the NBA, while Brandon Clarke is playing mins for Memphis. That says so much. You keep DeRozen, trade Marco, Carroll, an 1 of those dudes in the G league for a good rotational SF.

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    Why? Because it is too low or you think that this is too high. An argument would be better than emojis
    Sorry son. I like being an asshole sometimes.

    I just want DeRozan out of this team because I know that as long as he is here we are not going anywhere. That's also why I think any trade that could net us a first round pick is worth it.

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    Sorry son. I like being an asshole sometimes.

    I just want DeRozan out of this team because I know that as long as he is here we are not going anywhere. That's also why I think any trade that could net us a first round pick is worth it.
    He picked Luka Somma in the draft. He's 2yrs away from being ready for nba mins.

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    He picked Luka Somma in the draft. He's 2yrs away from being ready for nba mins.
    with Bazley and Thybulle still available.

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    A young, promising, complimentary piece that would fit this roster better (pipe dream: Robert Covington) and draft pick/s.
    Robert Covington is a role player, and he's 29.

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    Do you really think a lineup of, let's say:

    Murray
    Walker
    Ross
    Gordon
    Aldridge

    White
    Mills
    Gay
    Lyles
    Poeltl

    wouldn't be in the contention for the 8th spot on this ty ass Western Conference?
    that team would have to go back to playing through Aldridge post ups. This team right now has a far more modern playing style with DeRozan attacking the paint and LaMarcus spacing the floor. You can't run this offense unless you have somebody getting to the paint drawing double teams. None of the perimeter players on that team can do what DeRozan has been doing in the last couple of games

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    Robert Covington is a role player, and he's 29.
    Complimentary = role player

    And yeah, I ed up with the "young" part. When I wrote "young and promising" I didn't have Covington in mind yet.

    I can reprhase the statement: "a young promising player" or a "complimentary player on the right side of 30s".

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    that team would have to go back to playing through Aldridge post ups. This team right now has a far more modern playing style with DeRozan attacking the paint and LaMarcus spacing the floor. You can't run this offense unless you have somebody getting to the paint drawing double teams. None of the perimeter players on that team can do what DeRozan has been doing in the last couple of games
    I agree, maybe Demar / Aldridge duo has finally found a way to be compe ive, but let's wait a few more games to be sure.

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    do it.

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    You have to know that the same forces that make him rise in value make an extension just as likely? We're in no man's land until he indicates he wants to leave.

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    I agree, maybe Demar / Aldridge duo has finally found a way to be compe ive, but let's wait a few more games to be sure.
    with the way they are playing now, they fit together very well. Before that it was an awkward fit where people said it doesn't work because they both like to post up, both love to shoot midrange shots and don't really shoot the 3.

    With Aldridge on the perimeter that changes. Aldridge is a shooter anyway and DeRozan has more space in the paint. It's no coincidence that he's been scoring at a legendary efficienct level and averages the FG% of a Michael Jordan. DeRozan drawing double teams and being a great passer gets the Spurs back into being able to run a motion offense. All the team got yesterday were easy buckets. This is a sustainable offense, I said that ever since they played like that the first time. It works.

    That makes the pairing a good fit, so no reason to trade for weaker players. Then you'd have to go back to Pop being mad scientist trying to figure out how to run the offense and who to run it through. Walker, Murray, White and Poeltl should keep improving. If this team had Marcus Morris like it was planned it could go toe to toe with any team in the west. A closing line up of

    Murray/Walker/DeRozan/Morris/Aldridge

    would've been a line up with 4 players who can go iso, 4 players who can shoot the 3, 3 post up threats and no defensive holes.

    They should consider adding a 3-and-D starter level forward. Besides that DeRozan is likely opting in which wouldn't be too bad at 27 million. I wouldn't want to pay him more, but that's decent value for an All-Star. I see Rudy Gay's contract as a bigger problem.

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    LMA shooting more 3's has cured a lot of the problems caused by derozan's shooting limitations.

    derozan is flawed and hard to build around, but having Aldridge/Lyles being able to camp out is a nice way to make it work.

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    with Bazley and Thybulle still available.
    Brandon Clarke

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    He picked Luka Somma in the draft. He's 2yrs away from being ready for Euroleague mins.

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    Robert Covington is a role player, and he's 29.
    This is the kind of


    not you exsctatic, the OP who is like so many on here posting to trade one of our stars for random overrated role players, like it would help.

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    The team is finally showing signs of turning this thing around and you wanna trade it’s most consistent player on offense? He isn't that good on defense, but he is very consistent on offense.

    Trading Belinelli and Forbes for a Trevor Ariza or a Robert Covington is the only trade the Spurs should consider.

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