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    You can tell Warren is getting desperate. She just made a major strategic error.
    Not diagreeing, but what's the error?

    Attacking Bernie is legit, can't really fault anyone for trying to get an edge in a crowded field. What looks like an unforced error to me is calling off her followers and playing the victim.

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    Not diagreeing, but what's the error?

    Attacking Bernie is legit, can't really fault anyone for trying to get an edge in a crowded field. What looks like an unforced error to me is calling off her followers and playing the victim.
    she obviously lied about Bernies comments on woman president as much as she lied about being an indian

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    Not diagreeing, but what's the error?

    Attacking Bernie is legit, can't really fault anyone for trying to get an edge in a crowded field. What looks like an unforced error to me is calling off her followers and playing the victim.
    In the end they are both ing each other up. Warren’s supporters now have a grudge against Bernie. They are now more likely to split between the remaining candidates should she drop out. I don’t see Bernie retaining her entire coalition as would have been the case in my opinion.

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    In the end they are both ing each other up. Warren’s supporters now have a grudge against Bernie. They are now more likely to split between the remaining candidates should she drop out. I don’t see Bernie retaining her entire coalition as would have been the case in my opinion.
    Smacks of wishful thinking, but you could be right. Bernie's ace in the hole isn't progressives imho, it's young people and people who don't usually vote.

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    i've been sayin tulsi is angling for a spot on bernie's ticket, tbh...

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    Not diagreeing, but what's the error?

    Attacking Bernie is legit, can't really fault anyone for trying to get an edge in a crowded field. What looks like an unforced error to me is calling off her followers and playing the victim.
    Picking a fight with Bernie was just dumb. As I have said all along, a Bernie/Warren truce to team up together at the convention could probably pick up enough delegates to win the nomination. She just poisoned those waters.

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    Bernie's cult of personality isn't going to allow for any kind of coalition

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    Bernie's cult of personality isn't going to allow for any kind of coalition
    The last two candidates alleged to be leaders of a cult of personality were Barack Obama and DJT.

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    The last two candidates alleged to be leaders of a cult of personality were Barack Obama and DJT.
    Lol Obama supporters had very different temperaments than the other two

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    Smacks of wishful thinking, but you could be right. Bernie's ace in the hole isn't progressives imho, it's young people and people who don't usually vote.
    I was going to vote for Warren, but but after talking it over with my 16 year old, I decided to let him pick my vote in the Democratic primary. I will vote the way he tells me to.

    With the sole condition that he provide me with a short rationale as to why. Facts, policies, etc.

    I figure it will be a good excercise.

    He has of course, picked Bernie.

    Texas has a mix of caucus and voting for the Democratic primary. He probably doesn't know this, but I remember it well from the Hillary/Obama vote. It is interesting.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_T...cratic_primary

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    Picking a fight with Bernie was just dumb. As I have said all along, a Bernie/Warren truce to team up together at the convention could probably pick up enough delegates to win the nomination. She just poisoned those waters.
    Nah.

    Whatever goes one will be set aside for the general election. Do not underestimate how much Democrats hate Trump.

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    The last two candidates alleged to be leaders of a cult of personality were Barack Obama and DJT.
    They won tho.

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    Lol Obama supporters had very different temperaments than the other two
    Ok


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    Ok

    Salon.com Are you boutons?

    This is some high grade nitpicking here.

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    So did Bernie last time he ran as a socialist against a Republican in bent. ;-)

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    Salon.com Are you boutons?

    This is some high grade nitpicking here.
    Obama followers being deluded cultists and woman haters was a narrative pushed by HRC. There's not really any maybe about that.

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    So did Bernie last time he ran as a socialist against a Republican in bent. ;-)
    Not in the primary run for POTUS. ;-)

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    Salon.com Are you boutons?

    This is some high grade nitpicking here.
    So desperate

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    Not in the primary run for POTUS. ;-)
    Sanders was a much stronger candidate than expected in 2016. The same might be true again.

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    Sanders was a much stronger candidate than expected in 2016. The same might be true again.
    His supporters were less than gracious losers in 2016. The same might be true again.

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    Bernie's cult of personality isn't going to allow for any kind of coalition
    The last two candidates alleged to be leaders of a cult of personality were Barack Obama and DJT.
    hmm all the more reason to run bernie then

    His supporters were less than gracious losers in 2016. The same might be true again.
    statistically, they were gracious with respect to how they voted in the general election. again, if the big (unfounded) concern is that angry berniebros are going to jeopardize the election, then may as well just run him tbh. that way you keep the bros and all the other very well behaved dems will just toe the line

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    When you average all the polls, it's a much closer affair. (Tighter than I anticipated)

    Bernie:
    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...ders-6250.html

    Biden:
    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...iden-6247.html

    Biden is right on top of the margin of error while Bernie is just a tick below it.

    Last time I checked these a few months ago both of them showed they beat Trump by well over 8% on average.

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