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    fake news. back it up.
    Being a propagandist means never having to back up your own bs.

    Chris never does.

    100% fiat and spam

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    Being a propagandist means never having to back up your own bs.

    Chris never does.

    100% fiat and spam
    Gonna back up my fake news claim:

    https://www.journalgazette.net/news/...gun-free-zones

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    Categorization and nomenclature are a .

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    Had you followed the link at El Nono's post, you might have noticed he preemptive rekt your source.

    Simple Chris wears a blindfold, not a mask

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    Had you followed the link at El Nono's post, you might have noticed he preemptive rekt your source.

    Simple Chris wears a blindfold, not a mask
    yep

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    fake news. back it up.
    yeah 97.8% is not a believable statistic, if he had posted like 73% I would have believed it though

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    yeah 97.8% is not a believable statistic, if he had posted like 73% I would have believed it though
    Well, a similar research puts it at 10%. Even if we're generous and cut in the middle, that would put it at 55%, and that's without taking into account that crime rate has decreased substantially in the last few decades...

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    When you're talking about something that's defined one way but commonly used in another way, the arguments tend to stratify along the most convenient version.

    When you see "what is a mass shooting?" you know you're getting into semantics. That's fine as long as everyone in the discussion is aware that front page mass shootings aren't the only mass shootings being considered, so when someone decides to ignore the "mass shooting" at a party in Baltimore, for example, they aren't really focused on preventing mass shootings as much as preventing high profile mass shootings. So maybe agree to which you're concerned with instead of cherry picking which version you're going with at the moment.

    Regardless, "gun free zone" isn't the issue. The issue is large number of soft targets = high kill count success rate i.e eventually a Netflix do entary about the shooter.

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    Well, a similar research puts it at 10%. Even if we're generous and cut in the middle, that would put it at 55%, and that's without taking into account that crime rate has decreased substantially in the last few decades...
    Let's just agree that both parties are in the wrong. Both the war on guns and the war on drugs have failed miserably as the black market has proved way too powerful and the worse evil than just having legalization and taxation.

    I do think guns purchased should have higher taxes but that also helps to weed out the more-likely-criminal types (i.e. the poor) from acquiring them.

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    det memory hole


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    Dems/progressives will use any means necessary to silence the opposition and curtail free speech.


    Terrorists.

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    lol that owen dude has been making waves since his stunt on the hill during the bull impeachment hoax.

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    Dems/progressives will use any means necessary to silence the opposition and curtail free speech.


    Terrorists.
    I only care when free speech is curtailed against conservatives or blind patriots.
    Right cuz anybody else "idgaf."

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    Dems/progressives will use any means necessary to silence the opposition and curtail free speech.


    Terrorists.
    Trump hired Epstein's legal team.

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    Thanks for chiming in.

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    When you're talking about something that's defined one way but commonly used in another way, the arguments tend to stratify along the most convenient version.

    When you see "what is a mass shooting?" you know you're getting into semantics. That's fine as long as everyone in the discussion is aware that front page mass shootings aren't the only mass shootings being considered, so when someone decides to ignore the "mass shooting" at a party in Baltimore, for example, they aren't really focused on preventing mass shootings as much as preventing high profile mass shootings. So maybe agree to which you're concerned with instead of cherry picking which version you're going with at the moment.

    Regardless, "gun free zone" isn't the issue. The issue is large number of soft targets = high kill count success rate i.e eventually a Netflix do entary about the shooter.
    That's pretty much the argument on the article I linked, and the reason those stats are generally baloney. There just simply isn't solid definitions of both 'mass shootings' and 'gun free zones', which gives the opportunity to political hacks to basically make up.

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    KY bill would establish preventive detention without probable cause.

    https://amp.kentucky.com/news/politi...239389143.html

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    KY bill would establish preventive detention without probable cause.

    https://amp.kentucky.com/news/politi...239389143.html
    It's stop and frisk all over again, but with temporary pseudo-arrest without legal recourse. Land of the free.

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    "The issue is large number of soft targets"



    The issue American culture's "norm" that gun violence is how to solve "problems", with BigGun's propaganda, with help from Christ-loving pastors. rams that issue home and keeps it there with gullible people.

    Got a problem with schools, Jews, abortionists, Muslims, your wife, blacks, browns, someone disses you, culture disses you, women diss you, etc?

    American culture's solution, deeply ingrained and continuously re-enforced, says, "shoot 'em", and join law enforcement so you can shoot, or at least beat the out of them, without punishment.








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    That's pretty much the argument on the article I linked, and the reason those stats are generally baloney. There just simply isn't solid definitions of both 'mass shootings' and 'gun free zones', which gives the opportunity to political hacks to basically make up.
    As long as people are content with customized definitions, both sides of the arguments will always be right (and wrong).

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    Thanks for chiming in.
    Do you think that kind of government censorship is a good thing, Qhris?

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    As long as people are content with customized definitions, both sides of the arguments will always be right (and wrong).
    yup, thus the fake news.

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