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    It's hilarious when actual lawyers on Trumpette fantasies.

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    Really? “Prepare to die, c-cksucker” doesn't “rise to the level of a violent threat”? Even if the recipient didn't think he would follow through, it doesn't stop being one.

    This is the problem with commentary like this, you need total suspension of reality to argue that point. Plus the prosecution job *is* to throw the book at him, because the judge eventually is the one that decides.

    And, btw, you can see that he's very much agreeing that the prosecution simply stuck to the federal sentencing guidelines, because that's what prosecutors do. There wasn't anything weird about what the prosecution requested.
    In the context of their decade long strange friendship no, it wasn’t a violent threat, it was talking, same thing that goes on here every day. Credico himself said it was nothing more than typical Stone talking.

    The judge will decide, and it will be nothing close to the excessive try by the prosecution.

    btw how many federal cases have you tried?

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    Lot of assumptions there to unpack, your "characterization" of the facts lacks credibility imho.



    (Go ahead, beat your chest in public some more...)
    assumptions
    characterizations

    Your boy Obama’s hand picked Inspector General said exactly that

    https://www.justice.gov/storage/120919-examination.pdf

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    In the context of their decade long strange friendship no, it wasn’t a violent threat, it was talking, same thing that goes on here every day. Credico himself said it was nothing more than typical Stone talking.

    The judge will decide, and it will be nothing close to the excessive try by the prosecution.

    btw how many federal cases have you tried?


    How many have you tried?

    100?

    200?

    1000?

    ing rube

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    In the context of their decade long strange friendship no, it wasn’t a violent threat, it was talking, same thing that goes on here every day. Credico himself said it was nothing more than typical Stone talking.

    The judge will decide, and it will be nothing close to the excessive try by the prosecution.
    The judge rarely matches the full request from the prosecution anyways, and normally it can also be lowered on appeals, that's not the point.

    The point is whether the request was excessive in light of federal sentencing guidelines, which the prosecutors themselves don't have control over. I actually do not like these cookie cut guidelines, and it should be an integral part of criminal reform, IMO.

    But, that's what prosecutors have to work with.

    btw how many federal cases have you tried?
    why does this matter? My opinion is as good as anybody else's opinion.

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    There are two things in this life we can all count on...

    #1) unlike Trump -

    pay taxes


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    #2) stroll into this thread any day - 24/7 - and you will be just in time to witness TSA getting on by a mul ude of posters



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    Nobody is getting shat on. Silly we can't just have a discussion without somebody turning it into a sporting event.

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    Nobody is getting shat on. Silly we can't just have a discussion without somebody turning it into a sporting event.
    Sorry, I like it when you post intelligent, thoughtful rejoinders that disprove fallacious posts.

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    I can't say that what he posted was a lie or wrong, because he posted an opinion piece. I can only disagree with it, and back up why.

    But I'm glad he did, so we can have that conversation. It's certainly much better than just posting tweet after tweet.

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    assumptions
    characterizations

    Your boy Obama’s hand picked Inspector General said exactly that

    https://www.justice.gov/storage/120919-examination.pdf
    Said what now?

    Be as specific as you can, quoting from your own source.

    Then compare it with what you said.

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    Said what now?

    Be as specific as you can, quoting from your own source.

    Then compare it with what you said.
    There's definitely a disconnect of what the report says and what TSA claims. At this point I'll just chalk it up to simply not accepting reality.

    Sorta unfortunate too, he was drumming up that report for a solid year+?

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    There's definitely a disconnect of what the report says and what TSA claims. At this point I'll just chalk it up to simply not accepting reality.

    Sorta unfortunate too, he was drumming up that report for a solid year+?
    Glossing an official report to suit the wishcasting is very on brand.

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    I can't say that what he posted was a lie or wrong, because he posted an opinion piece. I can only disagree with it, and back up why.

    But I'm glad he did, so we can have that conversation. It's certainly much better than just posting tweet after tweet.
    ok George Carlin

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    You're welcome Qhris

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    The troll thingie

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    The troll thingie
    get rekt

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    chop chop, those twee s are not going to post themselves...

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    I'm a trendsetter.

    I set trends.

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    Did the Obama appointed Inspector General present evidence in his report that proved the FBI lied to the FISA court in order to obtain and warrant on Carter Page? Yes or no.
    Are you saying we didn't land on the moon?

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    why dont you have spurs homer on ignore? honest question
    He needs people to troll. Putting someone on ignore would hinder that.

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    The judge rarely matches the full request from the prosecution anyways, and normally it can also be lowered on appeals, that's not the point.

    The point is whether the request was excessive in light of federal sentencing guidelines, which the prosecutors themselves don't have control over. I actually do not like these cookie cut guidelines, and it should be an integral part of criminal reform, IMO.

    But, that's what prosecutors have to work with.



    why does this matter? My opinion is as good as anybody else's opinion.
    Do prosecutors have discretion on enhancements?

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    Probably also not a lawyer.

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    Are you saying we didn't land on the moon?


    Did the FBI director confirm the surveillance of Carter Page was illegal?

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