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    Getting the most delegates, I would imagine.

    You forgot Tulsi.
    thats not a path

    whats Bidens path to the nomination?

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    nothing would surprise me
    Like what?

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    thats not a path

    whats Bidens path to the nomination?
    Dunno. That's why I said Bernie will be the nominee.

    you forgot Tulsi

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    She’s just making stuff up when she says she and Elena were the only two without PACs...Bernie isn’t getting any PAC support.
    What's good for the goose is good for the gander. It's not like she's pro super-PAC. She doesn't want to have her legs cut off while Bloomberg does whatever the he wants ...

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    whats Bidens path to the nomination?
    Bernie himself doesn't have a clear path. It's all about plurarity. No one is getting a majority.

    Bernie needs to get at least 35-40% to avoid a contested convention. If Biden is withing 5 points of it Bernie is getting screwed.

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    What's good for the goose is good for the gander. It's not like she's pro super-PAC. She doesn't want to have her legs cut off while Bloomberg does whatever the he wants ...
    I don’t fault her for taking PAC money, I fault her for revising history. she’s making stuff up when she says she’s been the only candidate who was against PAC money having an influence.

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    hter

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    One never knows what money (donors money) coupled with unaccountability and fear of going to prison if not in office will cause trump to do.

    We dont know how he is going to pull off this feat of avoiding prison but history has shown that there are zero limits to his criminality.


    It will not surprise me in the least if we are sitting here late at night on november 3rd watching trump making a victory speech and knowing full well he was part of something ominous and criminal and controversial that happened on election day.

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    Bernie himself doesn't have a clear path. It's all about plurarity. No one is getting a majority.

    Bernie needs to get at least 35-40% to avoid a contested convention. If Biden is withing 5 points of it Bernie is getting screwed.
    I think even that’s conservative. Imo he needs 40% and at least a 7-8% lead to force the DNCs hand.

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    Dunno. That's why I said Bernie will be the nominee.

    you forgot Tulsi


    so Biden is out of the picture

    i say bernie has 50% chance of winning

    he has to sweep tuesday and win texas and cali

    then he has 89% chance

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    I think even that’s conservative. Imo he needs 40% and at least a 7-8% lead to force the DNCs hand.
    as i said if he sweeps tuesday and wins cali and texas. is that enough?

    it very damn well shud be

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    i say bernie has 50% chance of winning
    ridin' det fence every time.

    you forgot Tulsi.

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    I don’t fault her for taking PAC money, I fault her for revising history. she’s making stuff up when she says she’s been the only candidate who was against PAC money having an influence.
    WASHINGTON (AP) — Bernie Sanders says he doesn’t want a super PAC. Instead, he has Our Revolution, a nonprofit political organization he founded that functions much the same as one.

    Like a super PAC, which is shorthand for super political action committee, Our Revolution can raise unlimited sums from wealthy patrons that dwarf the limits faced by candidates and conventional PACs. Unlike a super PAC, however, the group doesn’t have to disclose its donors — a stream of revenue commonly referred to as “dark money.”

    Now, with less than one month to go before the Iowa caucuses, Our Revolution appears to be skirting campaign finance law, which forbids groups founded by federal candidates and officeholders from using large donations to finance federal election activity, including Sanders’ 2020 bid.

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    Our Revolution has taken in nearly $1 million from donors who gave more than the limits and whose iden ies it hasn’t fully disclosed, according to tax filings for 2016, 2017 and 2018. Much of it came from those who contributed six-figure sums.
    https://apnews.com/345bbd1af529cfb1e41305fa3ab1e604

    I'll be the first to admit I haven't read up on this, but from a few minutes of googling, she seems correct.

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    ridin' det fence every time.

    you forgot Tulsi.
    i respect that take

    but i truly believe its 50%

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    i respect that take

    but i truly believe its 50%
    I respect your ridin' det fence pretty much every time.

    you forgot Tulsi.

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    I respect your doing this pretty much every time.

    you forgot Tulsi.
    thanks

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    https://apnews.com/345bbd1af529cfb1e41305fa3ab1e604

    I'll be the first to admit I haven't read up on this, but from a few minutes of googling, she seems correct.
    It’s a 501(c)(4), not a super PAC. It doesn’t spend any money on campaign ads and does community organiing type . Warren specifically said super PACs.

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    It’s a 501(c)(4), not a super PAC. It doesn’t spend any money on campaign ads and does community organiing type . Warren specifically said super PACs.
    “We invest our money ... in things like organizing and phone banks and canvassing voters on issues that matter. We aren’t running ads or doing glossy mailers,” he said.

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    But the money has financed a sprawling volunteer-driven operation to mobilize Sanders supporters that could be crucial to his chances of winning.

    Last weekend, Our Revolution touted its outreach in eastern Iowa counties that voted for both Barack Obama and President Donald Trump, announcing a goal of enlisting 5,000 volunteers to help tilt next month’s caucuses in Sanders’ favor. On social media, it has amplified Sanders’ speeches and campaign initiatives while attacking his rivals. It has also sent out a steady stream of fundraising emails, which explicitly advocate for Sanders’ election.
    If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck ...

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    Bernie is all for a contested convention, except where it would cost him the nom
    Bernie is all for banning super PACs, so long as it doesn't interfere with the 501(c)(3) that campaigns for him
    Bernie is all for having Bloomberg terminate the NDAs, but his super PAC entered into one with a staffer
    Bernie is all for getting Trump's nepotism out of office, but the university headed by his wife paid 500k for a woodworking program run by their stepdaughter

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    Bernie is all for getting Trump's nepotism out of office, but the university headed by his wife paid 500k for a woodworking program run by their stepdaughter
    To be fair on this one, he did pretty much left his son out to dry when he ran for a house seat back in 2018. Didn't even held a single rally for his own blood.

    Cold blooded.

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    To be fair on this one, he did pretty much left his son out to dry when he ran for a house seat back in 2018. Didn't even held a single rally for his own blood.

    Cold blooded.
    not sure that makes it better

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    Please, please, please nominate Bernout

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    Please, please, please nominate Bernout

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    Please, please, please nominate Bernout
    If I'm underestimating America's penchant for radicalism / snowflakery, Bernie could be the tougher challenger.

    I mean, is Obama's creepy flunky really gonna put up much of a challenge?

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    If I'm underestimating America's penchant for radicalism / snowflakery, Bernie could be the tougher challenger.

    I mean, is Obama's creepy flunky really gonna put up much of a challenge?

    I guess we'll find out next week.

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