Wtf?
Doctors tell Florida woman she ‘likely’ has coronavirus
but refuse to test her for it
the hospital is “following guidelines for testing established by the CDC and the Florida Department of Health.”
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/03/doc..._campaign=3858
Dear Leader descended from heaven on the wings of a million sparrows, to grace us with a news conference.
This gets more North Korea as time goes on.
Tragic is all the people without paid sick time showing up to work sick. our "free market" system is going to make the spread in the US faster.Ah, America, craven, avaricious, predatory venality is your name
‘Why are we being charged?’
Surprise bills from coronavirus testing spark calls for government to cover all costs
“Huge surprise medical bills [are] going to make sure people with symptoms don’t get tested.
That is bad for everyone.”
Pennsylvania native Frank Wucinski “found a pile of medical bills” totaling $3,918 waiting for him and his three-year-old daughter after they were released from government-mandated quarantine
(CDC) is not billing patients for coronavirus testing,
there are other charges you might have to pay, depending on your insurance plan, or lack thereof,”
“A hospital stay in itself could be costly and you would likely have to pay for tests for other viruses or conditions.”
“There are
legal,
moral
public health
reasons not to charge the patients,”
“the ambulance company that transported [them] charged the family $2,598 for taking them to the hospital.”
“An additional $90 in charges came from radiologists who read the patients’ X-ray scans and do not work for the hospital,”
the American government’s response to a public health emergency, ... could be
handicapped by relying on a system built around private hospitals and for-profit health insurance providers.”
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/03/why...ver-all-costs/
It's spreading fast globally RG but yeah communism could stop it.
My standing orders for my employees is if you have a fever stay home and I will pay you. We don't want what you have. If they still show up sick I send them home.
china seems to be getting a handle on it tbqh
Sensible.
My boss regularly visits his 84 YO father, and has sent me home once or twice. I have allergies, so it is hard to tell when I am sneezing from a flu. Easy enough to work from home.
I point out a fact, you have... a strawman. Requiring a minimum floor for paid days off, would mitigate the economic damage done by people showing up to work sick when they can't afford to take time off. Probably can find some actual economic data to back that up.
Our system is a tragedy of the commons writ large.
Free markets are not infallible, so quit being naive about that.
If you follow the link to the original story, they did test her
She has a common coldThe woman shared with CBS Miami copies of her test results from Jackson showing she tested positive for earlier strains of the virus – coronavirus 229E and NL63.
WHO now estimated covid-19 mortality rate about 3.4%, vs 0.1% for seasonal flu, about 35x more deadly.
Nice tracker with timeline slider so you can see the world getting infected
http://ncov.bii.virginia.edu/dashboard/
Resistance is futile
That's ing great. Spanish flu was 2.5% and killed 50-100 million in a world with 1/4 of the current population and far less travel.
Idk where he's getting that. 3.4% is the current rate deaths/confirmed but confirmed cases are skewed towards serious cases. Mortality rate is still unknown officially.
Fauci just wrote about it in NEJM
On the basis of a case definition requiring a diagnosis of pneumonia, the currently reported case fatality rate is approximately 2%.4 In another article in the Journal, Guan et al.5 report mortality of 1.4% among 1099 patients with laboratory-confirmed Covid-19; these patients had a wide spectrum of disease severity. If one assumes that the number of asymptomatic or minimally symptomatic cases is several times as high as the number of reported cases, the case fatality rate may be considerably less than 1%. This suggests that the overall clinical consequences of Covid-19 may ultimately be more akin to those of a severe seasonal influenza (which has a case fatality rate of approximately 0.1%) or a pandemic influenza (similar to those in 1957 and 1968) rather than a disease similar to SARS or MERS, which have had case fatality rates of 9 to 10% and 36%, respectively.2
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.105...elated_article
I had to round up figures from Diamond Princess cases to even get 1%. And you know most of of those passengers were older, more vulnerable demographic.
Coronavirus emergency bill stalled over vaccine cost concerns
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/0...cy-bill-119729
House and Senate leaders have run into last-minute snags on a $7.5 billion emergency package to combat the U.S. spread of coronavirus, including disputes over vaccine availability and hospital reimbursement costs.
...
Democrats are insisting the spending package include significant funding to purchase large amounts of coronavirus diagnostics, treatments and vaccine, when it becomes available, which would then be made available to the public free of cost, according to a senior Democratic aide.
The Democratic aide said Republicans are trying to eliminate the “fair and reasonable price” federal procurement standard for the vaccines and treatments that will be developed and purchased with the emergency funds. “Fair and reasonable price” is a basic standard to prevent price gouging in federal contracts.
Republicans, however, argue they are trying to fight Democratic efforts to create a new set of price controls and that they are not asking for changes to the underlying procurement standards.
...
“We are not going to say the companies after we taxpayers have paid for it, ‘now go out and make a huge profit.’ That's not going to happen,” said Senate Appropriations ranking member Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.).
...
Separately, health insurers want assurances the government will help pay the cost of widespread testing or expensive treatment.
Yeah, I'm sure it will prove to be more deadly than your average flu, but so many governments including ours are being pussies about testing and reporting so the number of deaths is the one thing that's concrete and final. Actual reported cases without death are going to balloon soon enough.
Most people can't. They don't live with Mom and Dad.
almost 4% deathrate worldwide
and even higher US
but lets concentrate at deathrate on a boat
Russia has banned all exports of masks and related equipment
They also interetingly said they are taking measures to protect Putin from the virus. probably boosting his immune system and isolating him
Russia is taking this as an alien invasion
s real
US is probably doing the opposite with Donaldo
although it would be a tremendous embarrasment if hes sick but maybe they dont care
Darcy Burner some famous tech geek in Seattle said Seattles hospital isolation wards are filled with thousands of ppl sick but untested
Seattle = Wuhan
Sounds reasonable to me. If Trump can see his way clear to supporting hospitals, why not sick Americans who can't afford a day off? Paid sick leave seems a no brainer.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-a...ts-11583258943A 1918-like pandemic would cause U.S. hospitals to absorb a net loss of $3.9 billion, or an average $784,592 per hospital, according to a 2007 report in the Journal of Health Care Finance that called on policy makers to consider contingencies to ensure hospitals don’t become insolvent as a result of a severe pandemic.
The National Disaster Medical System is subject to available funds and reimburses doctors and health facilities that provide care to eligible natural-disaster patients under specific guidelines if care isn’t available in their local area. It has been used in the past for situations such as Hurricane Irma in 2017, when about 85 patients were covered under the program.
We get it Darrin, you think old people are disposable.
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