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    yes I expect the # of infections to raise by a LOT once US starts testing

    US is basically in square 1 still while many other countries like Germany, France are already way ahead
    only 39 infected in Seattle yeah right and Im Santa Claus

    this is turning out to be worst that Katrina up

    Im sure thousands in WA and Cali are already infected

    Facebook and Amazon employees tested positive. both companies shut down and working from home

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    lets take a look: 3 of the biggest tech companies all working from home. But no! all the other peasants l, you need to still go to work! ob and Masks are really bad for you so do not buy them!



    Dump should immediately tell all employees who can work from home to go ahead without repercussions from employers

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    59 million people affected. 12K deaths.

    What are we at, 150 some odd cases and 11 deaths?

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    this explains the videos of Chinese dropping to ground, shaking and acting violent in some cases. This is also why this virus has something in common to SARS.

    the bioweapon theory becomes stronger

    but thisfine.gif


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    lets take a look: 3 of the biggest tech companies all working from home. But no! all the other peasants l, you need to still go to work! ob and Masks are really bad for you so do not buy them!



    Dump should immediately tell all employees who can work from home to go ahead without repercussions from employers
    Guaranteed sick leave would seem to be a no brainer, if public health/human life were the priority in the US. It isn't.

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    59 million people affected. 12K deaths.

    What are we at, 150 some odd cases and 11 deaths?
    How long has COVID-19 been spreading in the US?

    The lack of testing pretty much guarantees that number of cases is way too low. It probably also makes the mortality rate look greater than it is.

    You're not real big on context or explaining what statistics mean, are you Darrin?

    Just propaganda tools to you.

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    Russia has banned all exports of masks and related equipment

    They also interetingly said they are taking measures to protect Putin from the virus. probably boosting his immune system and isolating him

    Russia is taking this as an alien invasion

    s real
    or maybe they know something about this virus that others dont- yet


    nothing would surprise me

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    the President contradicting public health officials to soothe the market isn't ideal, wouldn't you say, SnakeBoy?
    Except Trump didn't say "Go to work, school or public areas."
    Strawman.

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    Except Trump didn't say "Go to work, school or public areas."
    Strawman.
    He did on Hannity last night.

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    He did on Hannity last night.

    why worry?

    ”what you are seeing and what you are hearing- is not really what is happening!” (DJT)

    so relax-


    dear leader will tell you what is happening!

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    He did on Hannity last night.
    The Straw article you initially posted quoted his Hannity appearance.

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    paging Darrin

    “but but there was a boat once that had 1% death rate”
    https://slate.com/technology/2020/03...tm_source=digg


    The author

    https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/author/jfaust

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    unfortunately the USA is not a controlled environment

    so yay we know the ideal deathrate is 1% yet the REAL deathrate will most likely be much more

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    The response has been much quicker than to H1N1 in 2009.
    Did Rush say that or do you have some personal experience here?
    By what metric are you using to make this assertion?

    Back it up or fold like Spurtacular and Cosmored.

    https://www.theamericanconservative....rumps-a-chump/



    Okay class, let’s start by contrasting the media-induced panic of 2020 with 2009 under Obama. The first cases of the swine flu, H1N1, appeared in April 2009. By the time Obama finally declared a national emergency that fall, the CDC reported that 50 million Americans, one in six people, had been infected and 10,000 Americans had died.

    In the early months of the disease, Obama had no secretary of health and human services or appointees in any of the department’s 19 key posts. No commissioner of the Food and Drug Administration, no surgeon general, no CDC director. The vacancy at the CDC was especially important, as in the early days of the crisis, only they could test for the virus; states weren’t allowed until later. DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano, not a medical doctor, led the federal effort. Sound familiar?

    The first real H1N1 cases appeared in Mexico, though Mexicans were never forbidden to enter the U.S. And while the CDC recommended against travel there, the primary danger cited was kidnapping for ransom. Some 66 percent of Americans, supported by the media, thought the president was protecting them even as 4,000 Americans died before a vaccine was even distributed.

    The emergency proclamation it took Obama seven months to declare was issued by Trump within 30 days of the coronavirus being found abroad. He announced a temporary suspension of entry into the U.S. of foreign nationals who posed a risk for transmission (CNN warned: “the travel ban could stigmatize countries and ethnicities”). And yes, Trump encouraged everyone to wash their hands.

    Anybody here remember the media freaking out over Obama’s initial response, which was also to suggest everyone wash their hands? Anyone find evidence of national panic? No. So why did the media cover essentially an identical story so very differently?

    Now let’s turn to the timing in 2020. The crisis arrived when the media decided it was time for a crisis. Though the virus had dominated headlines in Asia since mid-January, American media relegated it to business news. In late February, the main “Trump” story was still Russiagate II, the faux revelation that Russians were meddling in another election. The lackluster Democratic debate at the end of February invoked Putin many times. The virus barely came up.

    Then the New York Times sent up the Bat Signal the day after the debate, an article led “Let’s Call It Trumpvirus” (subtlety is not required for propaganda). An effort was born to blame Trump for the outbreak and essentially declare his chances of reelection done. The critical change had little to do with the virus itself, simply with the decision by the media to elevate the story from the business section to the front page. Only a handful of Americans had died and about half the known U.S. cases had arrived as evacuees from Japan (should we even have left them go there?). Of course, the numbers quickly went up, but that’s why we say “going viral” when your Instagram blows up.

    You’ll see in your textbooks another example of how propaganda works, the reporting of initial problems with the CDC coronavirus test kits. One typical headline claimed, “The U.S. Badly Bungled Coronavirus Testing.” But the problems were old news almost as soon as the stories were written. Within a week, nearly a million tests would be available.

    The follow-on stories screamed about Trump cutting funding to the CDC, most of which was actually only proposed. Then the stories were merged—Trump cut CDC funding and thus not enough kits were available. Not only were both pieces largely untrue individually, the fusion of the two was grossly false. The media treated developments as raw material to mock Trump, like late-night comedians trolling the news for monologue fodder.

    The problem with the testing kits was a technical one involving chemical reagents and factory contamination. CDC is a massive ins ution. Who if anyone there made any “bungled” decisions? Would they have really made a better choice with different funding? This is how the media acts when they seek to fix the blame, not the problem.

    The propaganda surrounding how the government initially handled the coronavirus was also obvious, what with the false “who is in charge” question the media asked. The vice president was assigned to head up the task force. This is the kind of thing VPs do: bring gravitas, make sure a whole of government approach has the bureaucratic firepower it needs, and so on. The propaganda instead hyper-focused on Mike Pence’s “disbelief in science.”

    For “proof,” the stories settled on Pence supposedly creating an HIV epidemic while governor of Indiana. The reality was different. Pence took office opposed to needle exchanges. When dirty needles shared among opioid users in rural Scott County were linked to 71 cases of HIV transmission, Pence responded to the new information by changing his policy and authorizing needle exchange in Scott and four other counties. The reality seems much closer to seeing an ideological stance changed by science than the other way around.

    Meanwhile, the media largely ignored those whom Pence chose for his task force. One was Dr. Deborah Birx, a career medical professional nominated by Obama in 2014 as the U.S. global AIDS coordinator. She also served as head of the global HIV/AIDS division at CDC, and was an immunology researcher at Walter Reed Army Medical Center and an Army colonel. You want to inspire confidence, you profile Dr. Birx; you want to sow discord, you misrepresent Mike Pence’s decisions years ago.
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    unfortunately the USA is not a controlled environment

    so yay we know the ideal deathrate is 1% yet the REAL deathrate will most likely be much more

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    Based on what?

    hater: <crickets>

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    Is the CDC executive branch or not?

    Lol Trump blaming Obama for an agency under his command for three years. Trump never owns a mistake.

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    Is the CDC executive branch or not?

    Lol Trump blaming Obama for an agency under his command for three years. Trump never owns a mistake.
    ...& neither does Obama.

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    The Straw article you initially posted quoted his Hannity appearance.
    Direct quotation isn't strawmanning.

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    ...& neither does Obama.
    Trump President, not Obama

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    ...& neither does Obama.
    a tan suit?

    ing bas !

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    Brutal truth is the mortality rate of 65+ year olds is not the most impactful thing. Probably end up saving in social security and Medicare costs. What would be impactful is the 20% or so requiring intensive care and the overall disruption to the economy from quarantine and supply chain disruption.

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    Is the CDC executive branch or not?

    Lol Trump blaming Obama for an agency under his command for three years. Trump never owns a mistake.

    I see that you're just gonna stomp your feet in a fit of TDS. Good luck with that

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