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    I don't know what you're talking about, but adding White to one of them would definitely add appeal to an opposing team, who'd be more likely to capitulate to giving up an asset they're on the fence with.
    You were first talking about trading White for an asset. Then, you mentioned adding one of the players that most want to get rid (mid 3) of to improve the return. I simply pointed out that adding one of those 3 players will NOT improve the return when coupled to a young player like White. Not many teams are going to be interested in those 3 players at all, let alone bump up the value of the return on a trade that includes them as essentially a throw in.

    If that ends up not being the case, I'd still be open to moving White for a pick either in this draft or preferably the following one. Another option is packaging him with one of the "mid 3" to improve the return.

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    You were first talking about trading White for an asset. Then, you mentioned adding one of the players that most want to get rid (mid 3) of to improve the return. I simply pointed out that adding one of those 3 players will NOT improve the return when coupled to a young player like White. Not many teams are going to be interested in those 3 players at all, let alone bump up the value of the return on a trade that includes them as essentially a throw in.
    Unsurprisingly, you failed to comprehend what I said. I meant shop them initially, then add him to one if necessary to sweeten the deal. That could be the difference between getting a C asset(s) or a B one.

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    I predict the Spurs to finish at 32-50. I think that’s good enough for the 12th spot in the West. That puts us at what, the 11th pick? How strong is the draft on SF this year? Any long athletes out there who can’t shoot or dribble but have potential if given time?

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    I predict the Spurs to finish at 32-50. I think that’s good enough for the 12th spot in the West. That puts us at what, the 11th pick? How strong is the draft on SF this year? Any long athletes out there who can’t shoot or dribble but have potential if given time?
    Not very many good SFs. To a of PGs and post players though

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    I predict the Spurs to finish at 32-50. I think that’s good enough for the 12th spot in the West. That puts us at what, the 11th pick? How strong is the draft on SF this year? Any long athletes out there who can’t shoot or dribble but have potential if given time?
    Jaden McDaniels 6’10 wing https://www.nbadraft.net/players/jaden-mcdaniels/

    very raw but has Potential

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    Damn those back2back winsvs hornets&magic

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    White is the most true Spur we have had since...Duncan. They are not trading him away. Dejounte will go first before White. In fact, i would trade Lonnie before DJ and White. Lonnie has that Dwight Howard personality type going on that I dont trust will help this team truly win. White has the best fundamentals as a guard. You dont let that go.

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    White is the most true Spur we have had since...Duncan. They are not trading him away. Dejounte will go first before White. In fact, i would trade Lonnie before DJ and White. Lonnie has that Dwight Howard personality type going on that I dont trust will help this team truly win. White has the best fundamentals as a guard. You dont let that go.
    Dwight took a team to the finals as the main guy

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    At this rate, we'll pass Phoenix and be in the bottom 10 easily.

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    At this rate, we'll pass Phoenix and be in the bottom 10 easily.

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    We are currently 11th overall. Just need to keep losing to get 9/10th at best tbh

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    Not very many good SFs. To a of PGs and post players though
    That suggests to me that you move LMA for a decent SF, keep Poodle, and draft a post player. Oh, and move Dumbmar for anything - but a 2nd round pick and combo forward that is either unproven or a reclamation project. Move Bryn for anything, and punt on Rudy and Marco.

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    We are currently 11th overall. Just need to keep losing to get 9/10th at best tbh

    The 11th finish has a 9.4% chance of getting a Top 4 pick. The 9th has a 20.3% chance of a Top 4 pick. It's a big deal. The problem is, Washington is 5.5 games back of Orlando for the 8th seed in the East, so they aren't likely to let the Spurs get that 9th pick.

    Phoenix is within reach, though, and the 10th finish has a 13.9% chance for a Top 4 pick. That's about the best the Spurs can hope for now.

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    That suggests to me that you move LMA for a decent SF, keep Poodle, and draft a post player. Oh, and move Dumbmar for anything - but a 2nd round pick and combo forward that is either unproven or a reclamation project. Move Bryn for anything, and punt on Rudy and Marco.
    Yes. Agreed.

    i’d prefer to s/t DDR and then trade DDR/LMA to bulls for LaVine/OPJ/1st Rd Pick. Then you could draft Toppin (w/ bulls pick) and Vernon Carey Jr (w/ spurs pick).

    Murray/White
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    OPJ/FA Vet
    Toppin/Lyles
    VCJ/Poetl

    id also like to package Mills/Gay together to get a bad contract and 1st rd pick. Maybe for Love & a 1st or for Horford & a 1st.

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    Yes. Agreed.

    i’d prefer to s/t DDR and then trade DDR/LMA to bulls for LaVine/OPJ/1st Rd Pick. Then you could draft Toppin (w/ bulls pick) and Vernon Carey Jr (w/ spurs pick).

    Murray/White
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    OPJ/FA Vet
    Toppin/Lyles
    VCJ/Poetl

    id also like to package Mills/Gay together to get a bad contract and 1st rd pick. Maybe for Love & a 1st or for Horford & a 1st.

    I don't know if they want to unload Love's contract badly enough to give up a first round pick, especially since their pick is likely going to be from 2-4. I would rather have their pick for next season, but they would make it a damn protected pick and those are a sucker play, because they can be manipulated.

    There was a time when the Spurs could have tanked for a single season and gotten things back on track. But they screwed up so many personnel decisions trying to keep the streak alive that now it's going to take at least two seasons of misery. I would really be fine with them piling up some draft assets for the 2021 draft.

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    We are currently 11th overall. Just need to keep losing to get 9/10th at best tbh
    At the current keep losing seems a lock.

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    Time to play rookies and tank.

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    another thing to consider is that the further the spurs move up in the lottery, and thus the draft, the better their chances of being able to package a trade offer to move up a few spots on draft night.

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    I don't know who is even in this draft that could move the needle for us from 8 thru 12, but the Spurs need to pull a rabbit out of the hat this year. I haven't seen much to indicate there are a lot of guys who could be impactful right away. Hopefully this will be one of those sleeper drafts.

    Not much to cheer for this year anymore beyond moving up in the draft.

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    Yup ... not much to cheer for now except for a higher draft pick and letting the young guys play ... like someone else mentioned looks like next season will also be a rough one .. hopefully a high draft pick this year and next year helps put franchise back on track

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    I don't know who is even in this draft that could move the needle for us from 8 thru 12, but the Spurs need to pull a rabbit out of the hat this year. I haven't seen much to indicate there are a lot of guys who could be impactful right away. Hopefully this will be one of those sleeper drafts.

    Not much to cheer for this year anymore beyond moving up in the draft.

    Jordan Nwora had a couple of bad games in the middle of a really good season at Louisville. He's back on his game, and has been averaging right at 17 and 10 since then. And he takes/makes enough 3's that the Spurs could afford to ditch Forbes. He's still the guy I want to see the Spurs take with their pick. I don't see anyone better, unless they manage to trade up.

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    If I had to let one of the young 3 guards go, it would be Murray. Lonnie is swifter and better shot. Can learn defense at SG. White is better all around since Murray has flaws in handling, shooting and BBIQ. Murray might get a better deal for us on the trade market based on his rookie year defensive award.

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    Jordan Nwora had a couple of bad games in the middle of a really good season at Louisville. He's back on his game, and has been averaging right at 17 and 10 since then. And he takes/makes enough 3's that the Spurs could afford to ditch Forbes. He's still the guy I want to see the Spurs take with their pick. I don't see anyone better, unless they manage to trade up.
    Agreed. Trade up for a top 8 pick or trade down for two picks like Nwora & Saddiq Bey

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    13th pick in arguably the worst nba draft ever. Lonzo balls brother is the headliner..... lol nba

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    Agreed. Trade up for a top 8 pick or trade down for two picks like Nwora & Saddiq Bey

    I don't think there's any way of getting both of those guys, but it would be a of a draft if they did. I'm not as high on Bey as some others, but still.

    I don't think I've mentioned it here, but Nwora's father is the Nigerian NT head coach. Over the last 10 years or so, I've some to be a big believer in guys who come from basketball families and grow up in the game. Nwora had a big crunch-time shot in the tourney this summer that got Nigeria into the Olympics. Louisville lost by 3 to Virginia the other night, but he had 18 and 11. If he does well in the NCAA, I think he will be on a lot more people's radars.

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