Popovich rips Trump over coronavirus response

[ChumpDumper]

a week later we’re still at 50 deaths.

Untrue. Are you even checking?

[Prime BEEF]

Untrue. Are you even checking?

• 2,952 in the U.S., including 57 deaths: 5 in California, 40 in Washington state, 3 in Florida, 2 in New York, 1 in New Jersey, 1 in Georgia, 1 in Kansas, 1 in Colorado, 1 in Louisiana, 1 in Virginia and 1 in South Dakota

https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/...s-15100710.php

[Prime BEEF]

Sadly in the US the exponent in our exponential growth of deaths (specificially a in the term e^(ax)) is actually tracking higher than Italy's is. At least Seattle is right on track for an Italy level disaster and I can't believe there hasn't been a quarantine of the city yet.

Travel bans for certain cities will likely happen soon. Possibly states (mainly Washington) too.

[Genovaswitness]

yes, you know more than doctors at John Hopkins hospital, like I said, you are just like Dump; facts don't apply to you.

Here is what I said before: " I really hope that the virus doesn't spread in the US" but call me psychopath if you want; I'm not the one being careless right now. Just like your idol Dump who ate food while consoling shooting victims.

I’m washing my hands, forced to not travel because everything is canceled anyway, all events are canceled etc. funny how the word was wishing for trump to have corona and it didn’t happen.

Untrue. Are you even checking?

under 60. I want a live tracker for every disease ever from here on out so we can live in a perpetual postapocalyptic mad max scape, seems like that’s what you all want

[Prime BEEF]

But but but... lowest infection rate.


From North Carolina

As of March 14 at 8:00 a.m., the state of North Carolina has a total of 680 public (i.e., non-commercial) coronavirus test kits.

So the big question is, “Why don’t we have more tests?”

Here’s the situation:

First, there’s a difference between “test kits” and “extraction kits.”

Extraction kits = extract RNA (genetic material) from nasal swabs.

Test kits = test RNA to see if it’s coronavirus.

We started with a national shortage of test kits. That happened because the CDC - after rejecting the WHO kits and deciding to make their own - had a manufacturing error that allowed their test kit to produce false positives. So they had to start over several weeks in.

To make matters worse, while the CDC was fixing their manufacturing error there were many other labs across the country (academic and commercial labs) that wanted to produce their own test kits. But they needed federal approval to move forward, and getting that approval took a couple weeks - a serious amount of time, given the prospect of exponential viral spread.

It appears we are now seeing the production of test kits ramp up from both the CDC and commercial labs like LabCorp (which happens to be headquartered here in North Carolina).

BUT that leads us to our second problem, and the current major bottleneck: extraction kits.

Before you can test the RNA sample from the nasal swab, you have to extract it. Doing so requires a specific chemical. The majority of this specific chemical (called a reagent) is produced by one company with production facilities in Germany and Spain.

And now that specific chemical is in very high demand. The whole world wants it.

A few weeks ago, the FDA started allowing independent labs to develop alternate chemical processes for RNA extraction. It’s unclear how much progress has been made.

So, looking now at the big picture, we basically have a two-track testing system: public testing, which involves our main state lab in NC using the re-manufactured CDC test kits (and in NC, we currently have 680 test kits) and then there’s commercial testing.

Regarding commercial testing, we really don’t know how much is happening. The commercial labs aren’t required to disclose test results unless they’re positive. In North Carolina, we have LabCorp conducting commercial tests. In Charlotte, we also have our two major hospital systems - Atrium and Novant - now saying that they are going to provide “screening.” It’s unclear whether they are simply collecting swabs and sending them to LabCorp (where they may face the same extraction kit bottleneck) or whether they’ve developed in-house capacity to actually produce their own test results.

But it’s important to note that BOTH public and commercial testing appear to be hitting a bottleneck when it comes to extraction.

As a result, we are not screening nearly enough people.

Ideally, anyone who displays flu-like symptoms would be eligible for a public test, free of charge. That’s how we would address this like South Korea and provide for wide-scale testing on the order of tens of thousands per day.

But - due to the shortage - that’s not the case. Instead, the CDC guidelines (which NC is currently following) currently state that you have to 1) display flu-like symptoms AND have had direct contact with a confirmed COVID-19 case OR, 2) you have to display flu-like symptoms AND lower respiratory symptoms (cough, shortness of breath) AND a negative rapid flu test.

A simpler way to say that is we are currently rationing public tests because we don’t have enough capacity.

Congress is now providing more funding specifically for these issues and commercial labs are reportedly innovating rapidly, but this is essentially a race against time and increasing our testing capacity within the next ten days is absolutely critical. It’s also possible that the window of opportunity for containment - at least in some regions - is now closed and we’re going to have to rely heavily on social distancing to slow the rate of infection.

You should also know that in the process of piecing this together I had many, many conversations with state and local health officials and every single one of them was on the same page, knew exactly what the bottlenecks were, and were working the problem. These folks get it, and they’re working around the clock for us.

More updates soon,

Sen. Jeff Jackson

Thanks for the info

[Prime BEEF]

Good link for live updates

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

as of right now for the US. Looks like out of the current active cases of people that are confirmed positive only .4% went onto be serious or critical condition. However, 52% of those that become serious or critical have died. This is for the US only.

[baseline bum]

Travel bans for certain cities will likely happen soon. Possibly states (mainly Washington) too.

Yeah Seattle needs to be quarantined ASAP.

[ChumpDumper]

under 60. I want a live tracker for every disease ever from here on out so we can live in a perpetual postapocalyptic mad max scape, seems like that’s what you all want

Do you know what exponential growth is?

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Do you know what exponential growth is?

Not sure he knows simple arithmetics, let alone exponential growth. Exactly 2 weeks ago Italy had 34 deaths and a thousand cases or so.

[Ignazzz]

Us Will have bigger problem with it in ca. next 2 weeks then Italy. I „adore„ Your wishfull thinking and ignorance.

[baseline bum]

Not sure he knows simple arithmetics, let alone exponential growth. Exactly 2 weeks ago Italy had 34 deaths and a thousand cases or so.

but why are you wishing death on so many Americans
math is for s

[Genovaswitness]

Do you know what exponential growth is?

Not sure he knows simple arithmetics, let alone exponential growth. Exactly 2 weeks ago Italy had 34 deaths and a thousand cases or so.

but why are you wishing death on so many Americans
math is for s

keep moving the goalposts

e-exponential growth!! The curve!! The coefficient!!!

remind me in a month when this blows over. again, I want a live tracker for every disease just to appease you loons

[Frenchfred]

keep moving the goalposts

e-exponential growth!! The curve!! The coefficient!!!

remind me in a month when this blows over. again, I want a live tracker for every disease just to appease you loons

I want to see your MD degree since you seem to know more than everybody. Your idol said at the beginning that this was just like the flu and now he declared the sate of emergency, why if there is no risk?

[ChumpDumper]

keep moving the goalposts

we've been saying the same thing all along.

remind me in a month when this blows over.

What makes you think this will just blow over?

[ducks]

Kayleigh McEnany
@kayleighmcenany
· Mar 12
Joe Biden just lied, saying coronavirus tests should be in the millions, not thousands.

Has anyone told Joe that 1 million tests have already been distributed, with 4 million distributed by the end of the week

[Genovaswitness]

I want to see your MD degree since you seem to know more than everybody. Your idol said at the beginning that this was just like the flu and now he declared the sate of emergency, why if there is no risk?

same mentality as being forced to hoard groceries, everyone else is doing it and at a certain point the markets needed to be appeased (ie, something was being done about the situation)

we've been saying the same thing all along.
What makes you think this will just blow over?

all the preventive measures that have been taking place (closed borders, every event from small comedy show to rodeo being canceled), how spread out The US population is....even in LA/NYC/Chicago things really aren’t that bad. I don’t know wtf happened with Italy but they obviously did something wrong. being smaller and more densely populated doesn’t help

[Frenchfred]

Kayleigh McEnany
@kayleighmcenany
· Mar 12
Joe Biden just lied, saying coronavirus tests should be in the millions, not thousands.

Has anyone told Joe that 1 million tests have already been distributed, with 4 million distributed by the end of the week

do you know that so far, few thousands have been tested?

[Shakril]

Deaths in us of flu 8200. Deaths in china by corona 3200....

Thats what i mean by saying take it seriously. Do you know why they have only 3200 dead? Because they reacted. They shut down an entire region. Several Hundred Millions of people were under House Arrest. It took a huge effort to have "only" 3200 Dead.
The US is doing too little too late.

[Spurs Homer]

Kayleigh McEnany
@kayleighmcenany
· Mar 12
Joe Biden just lied, saying coronavirus tests should be in the millions, not thousands.

Has anyone told Joe that 1 million tests have already been distributed, with 4 million distributed by the end of the week

Pence lied

over and over and the tests are still “on the way”

no significant number of tests are in medical professionals hands- as we speak

[ChumpDumper]

all the preventive measures that have been taking place (closed borders, every event from small comedy show to rodeo being canceled), how spread out The US population is....even in LA/NYC/Chicago things really aren’t that bad. I don’t know wtf happened with Italy but they obviously did something wrong. being smaller and more densely populated doesn’t help

Italy did what we're doing now.

[Shakril]

keep moving the goalposts

e-exponential growth!! The curve!! The coefficient!!!

remind me in a month when this blows over. again, I want a live tracker for every disease just to appease you loons

Thats called getting new information, not moving the goalposts. The US is about 2 weeks behind than italy, and already has 3000 cases, and thats with limited testing. 60 confirmed deaths. Every Countries job is to limit spreading the disease and deaths. If after several months (plural not singular), it is clear that the numbers are low, its due to the effort that has been made, not because the Illness was overblown.

[tholdren]

Thats what i mean by saying take it seriously. Do you know why they have only 3200 dead? Because they reacted. They shut down an entire region. Several Hundred Millions of people were under House Arrest. It took a huge effort to have "only" 3200 Dead.
The US is doing too little too late.

Lol

[tholdren]

Thats called getting new information, not moving the goalposts. The US is about 2 weeks behind than italy, and already has 3000 cases, and thats with limited testing. 60 confirmed deaths. Every Countries job is to limit spreading the disease and deaths. If after several months (plural not singular), it is clear that the numbers are low, its due to the effort that has been made, not because the Illness was overblown.

And half of those deaths came by way of nursing home. The mortality rate is less than you think. By a mile

[pgardn]

The fundamental principles behind good public health communication are stunningly simple and obvious :

Be consistent. Be accurate. Don’t withhold vital information. And above all, don’t let anyone on to the podium without the preparation, knowledge and discipline to deliver vital Health messages.

Straight from the CDC manual based on botched public health responses in the past.


Well it’s pretty obvious the current administration does not work like this. Who is in charge now and delivering the statements? is it Pence or Jared Kushner or has that changed again? Trump flies by the seat of his pants and you just don’t do this as a good leader of the most powerful nation on earth.

[hombre]

Kayleigh McEnany
@kayleighmcenany
· Mar 12
Joe Biden just lied, saying coronavirus tests should be in the millions, not thousands.

Has anyone told Joe that 1 million tests have already been distributed, with 4 million distributed by the end of the week

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...ing-in-us.html

https://www.businessinsider.com/whit...st-kits-2020-3