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    I corrected myself.

    You think all models are good.

    Thanks for confirming.

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    Show me where I said it came from a hoax.

    Chop-chop.
    You certainly were eerily quiet when Dear Leader was being shat on for the stupid he kept saying.

    But ok, let's pretend you weren't knobslobbing his claim this was all a hoax.

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    You certainly were eerily quiet when Dear Leader was being shat on for the stupid he kept saying.

    But ok, let's pretend you weren't knobslobbing his claim this was all a hoax.
    You can pretend if you like. That's what Liberals do to avoid reality.

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    You can pretend if you like. That's what Liberals do to avoid reality.
    Again, we'll pretend you didn't post any of this...

    He's damned by Media no matter what he does. You know the gameplan.
    Damned by his words and actions in a crisis where words and actions matter, tbh.
    Carry on, next tweet please...

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    You can pretend if you like. That's what Liberals do to avoid reality.
    You always thought it was real and disagreed with Trump's downplaying of it?

    OK

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    Again, we'll pretend you didn't post any of this...







    Carry on, next tweet please...
    Show me where I said it came from a hoax.

    Chop-chop.

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    Qhris disavowing his support of Trump.

    Never thought I'd see the day.


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    Show me where I said it came from a hoax.

    Chop-chop.
    You said it isn't a crisis... again, pick a lane.

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    Already debunked a few posts ago. Not a study either.
    Lol Nathan

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    Tell us about it.

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    You said it isn't a crisis... again, pick a lane.
    At the time of the post it wasn't the crisis it has become now.Still waiting on the hoax quote. Just look for it tomorrow or something I guess

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    China ed us, tbh

    I'm more convinced than ever, this leaked from their lab.

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    China ed us, tbh

    I'm more convinced than ever, this leaked from their lab.
    All ready gene sequenced. It wasn't.

    Jesus, you ers are going full on conspira . I happily approve of you guys finally going off the deep end.

    TDS has claimed another victim.

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    There was nothing misleading about what I decided to quote. If I was trying to mislead why would I link the whole article.
    Maybe you can tell me how this germ outsmarted the antibiotics.

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    China ed us, tbh

    I'm more convinced than ever, this leaked from their lab.
    Seems improbable.

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    democrats instead of blaming china for the virus, rather spend their money and time blaming trump the chump.....
    China ing lied, and down played it, and delayed the world's responding effectively.

    But China doesn't control how Trump administration has ing bungled this every step of the way. Other than bribing Trump not to call it the "Chinese virus".

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    You know the Epoch Times was found by some Falun Gong dudes, right?

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    It's just much easier for simple minds to blame Trump for covid19. The US isn't a totalitarian government. The reaction was maybe a few weeks late from total lockdown but you dont sell a total lockdown to the US public when nobody is sick.
    ha ha obedient dale has a suck buddy !!

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    i love that cowboy acts like the sound of reason


    "i dont like stuff thats he's doing"



    "well it, give the cowboy your bunghole, mr president"

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    Just pointing out as late as March 8th Fauci was not sounding the alarm. We had ty information at that time due to China and WHO.
    Italy had their first >100 death day on March 8th. Prorate that out to our pop, and it's about 500 deaths. At that point, every expert, leader, etc should've taken it seriously. Fauci was indeed light handed and should've been more urging. That's his dropped ball. But him dropping the ball doesn't excuse Trump for basically saying it's a Democratic plot to hurt him 2 days later. Here's what a responsible leader who wasn't a former gameshow host and pyramid schemer would say:

    "We're monitoring the situation in Italy very closely, who just experienced a e in deaths due to the Coronavirus. We've only had 22 deaths so far in the US, but that's no reason to let our guard down. I'll be consulting a team of experts on the matter to see what our future course of action should be. Until then, I'd advise all US citizens, especially the elderly and those with health conditions, to avoid large crowds, travel, and practice good handwashing."

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    Italy had their first >100 death day on March 8th. Prorate that out to our pop, and it's about 500 deaths. At that point, every expert, leader, etc should've taken it seriously. Fauci was indeed light handed and should've been more urging. That's his dropped ball. But him dropping the ball doesn't excuse Trump for basically saying it's a Democratic plot to hurt him 2 days later. Here's what a responsible leader who wasn't a former gameshow host and pyramid schemer would say:

    "We're monitoring the situation in Italy very closely, who just experienced a e in deaths due to the Coronavirus. We've only had 22 deaths so far in the US, but that's no reason to let our guard down. I'll be consulting a team of experts on the matter to see what our future course of action should be. Until then, I'd advise all US citizens, especially the elderly and those with health conditions, to avoid large crowds, travel, and practice good handwashing."
    ---& don't you fret, Midst, as soon as Biden gets his Tired Old Bag ass in there that is precisely how he's gonna run 'er.

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    At the time of the post it wasn't the crisis it has become now.Still waiting on the hoax quote. Just look for it tomorrow or something I guess
    thanks for admitting you were wrong.

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    "This is how it is all over the world. Both in countries where they have taken closure steps like Italy and in countries that have not had closures like Taiwan or Singapore. In such and such countries there is an increase until the fourth to sixth week, and immediately thereafter moderation until during the eighth week it disappears."

    "This is happening both in countries that have closed down like us and in those that have not closed until today like Sweden, every country no matter its response. The decline and rise occur according to the same timeline," he said, adding that his observations are based entirely on past data without attempting to guess what will happen in the future.

    "It's clear to us how the epidemic is starting and what is causing the increase. What is causing the moderation is unclear. Therefore, I propose that we end the closures immediately after the current week. We will start increasing the workforce from 15 percent to fifty percent and in two weeks we will reach 100 percent."
    Terrible in' "analysis."

    Prof. Ben-Israel is the chairman of the Israeli Space Agency and the National Council for Research and Development, the head of the Security Studies program at Tel Aviv University, and a former MK for the Kadima party. He holds a PhD in Philosophy and a BSc in Physics and Mathematics from Tel Aviv University.
    So, not an epidemiologist. But I won't appeal to authority here. Let's look at the problems with his argument.

    Prof. Ben-Israel explained his position, pointing out that when measuring the rate of additional patients to existing patients, the trend can be clearly identified and adjusted in all countries. If, at the beginning of the epidemic, the rate of hospitalization was increasing at a rapid rate every day, this reality has since changed radically.
    Yes, this is how bell curves work. Most events in nature follow some kind of bell curve and don't exponentially increase forever. Everyone already knows this, so he's saying nothing new. The entire point of our social distancing and stay-at-home measures is to reduce the bell's peak.

    "This is how it is all over the world. Both in countries where they have taken closure steps like Italy and in countries that have not had closures like Taiwan or Singapore. In such and such countries there is an increase until the fourth to sixth week, and immediately thereafter moderation until during the eighth week it disappears."
    HUGE handwave here. These examples are not analogous, even if the overall trends were similar in acceleration and decline. He's basically implying that the outcome would be the same everywhere regardless of the steps taken to reduce spread. That's not the case, as Italy's had a much more severe outcome than those countries. And those countries had the luxury of not having to implement a total lockdown because they tested, traced, and quarantined early.

    "This is happening both in countries that have closed down like us and in those that have not closed until today like Sweden, every country no matter its response. The decline and rise occur according to the same timeline," he said, adding that his observations are based entirely on past data without attempting to guess what will happen in the future.
    Same handwave as above. "Eh, Sweden and the US are basically the same, even though one country had locked down and the other hasn't. This proves lockdowns are correlational at best. Open up the country!" No, it doesn't.

    California has five times the population density as Sweden, 4 times as many people, more frequent international travel, had their first confirmed cases like a month and a week earlier, and yet their deaths per 1 million is 16 vs. Sweden's 91. Sweden's approach has been a case study in what not to do in a pandemic. Their Nordic neighbors are seeing fewer deaths, and other countries that are trying the herd immunity approach are getting hammered.

    However, Prof. Ben-Israel added that he "recommends that we take all the hygienic steps like wearing masks and keeping our distance from person to person and banning crowds because it does not cost the economy.
    Lol. This is basically what we're doing already. Reason we've closed down bars, restaurants, clubs, theaters, churches, beaches, etc is because those places draw crowds. An office space with 200 workers in close proximity is a "crowd."

    100 percent workforce in 2 weeks .

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    Terrible in' "analysis."

    100 percent workforce in 2 weeks .
    Not to mention that China (whom i would agree still serves up misleading numbers), Singapore, etc, had recurrence after they thought it was under control. Also, the disparity in testing coverage and how that changed the outlook in different countries is also MIA from this 'study'.

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