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    Update (16 April 2020---3:30AM):::

    Trump's Corona dead: 28,529
    Regular Flu dead: 23+k
    Spanish Flu dead: 275k
    Obama's H1N1 Flu dead: 12.5k

    Let us proceed...

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    Update (16 April 2020---3:30AM):::

    Trump's Corona dead: 28,529
    Regular Flu dead: 23+k
    Spanish Flu dead: 275k
    Obama's H1N1 Flu dead: 12.5k

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    You insufferable fart catcher, you.

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    It's at 33380 now

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    It's at 33380 now
    double that for "excessive deaths" in the time of c19

    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog...b47dvYu0A1Xy5Y

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    The government is covering up millions of deaths tbh.

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    The government is covering up millions of deaths tbh.
    A thousand here, a thousand there may slip through the bureaucratic cracks, but there is no way any government in the world could hide one million deaths.

    Maybe in WWI and or the USSR before WWII. Pert near impossible in an electronically connected world.

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    It's at 33380 now
    Changes in United States Data following the new CDC guidelines on "Case" and "Death" definition

    Following new CDC guidelines: "As of April 14, 2020, CDC case counts and death counts include both confirmed and probable cases and deaths. This change was made to reflect an interim COVID-19 position statement issued by the Council for State and Territorial Epidemiologists on April 5, 2020. The position statement included a case definition and made COVID-19 a nationally notifiable disease.
    A confirmed case or death is defined by meeting confirmatory laboratory evidence for COVID-19. A probable case or death is defined by i) meeting clinical criteria AND epidemiologic evidence with no confirmatory laboratory testing performed for COVID-19; or ii) meeting presumptive laboratory evidence AND either clinical criteria OR epidemiologic evidence; or iii) meeting vital records criteria with no confirmatory laboratory testing performed for COVID19" [source]

    This change is a further example of one of the many reasons why the label "confirmed cases" (used by some to designate total cases) is incorrect (see definitions for more details). The US CDC (and Worldometer) has always used the label "Total Cases." Canada is another example where the "total number includes publicly reported confirmed and probable cases [source]

    On April 14, New York City reported 3,778 additional deaths that have occurred since March 11 and have been classified as "probable," defined as follows: “decedent [...] had no known positive laboratory test for SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) but the death certificate lists as a cause of death “COVID-19” or an equivalent" [source].

    From April 14 onward, New York City has provided - and will continue to provide - the updated number of probable deaths in its daily reports.

    On April 15, in the daily press briefing, New York Governor Cuomo said that "we will begin reporting all categories of fatalities pursuant to new CDC guidelines and are contacting facilities to get updated numbers." He also added that there may be additional people who died that have not been counted because not in a hospital. In the April 15 update, the New York State Department of Health official website had still not included (nor reported separately) the additional "probable" deaths reported by New York City the day before. On April 16, when asked about the issue, New York State officials commented on their decision to not add the New York City probable deaths in the official State count saying that probable deaths have been reported by New York City in a new and separate category, without adding the two numbers (confirmed and probable) together into a single category.

    The state of Ohio is an example of a state that has started reporting total cases and deaths correctly, in accordance with the new CDC guidelines. On its "Overview dashboard" it show total cases and total deaths, while also providing the breakdown between confirmed and probable, with the note "CDC Expanded Case Definition (Probable)" and "CDC Expanded Death Definition (Probable)."

    Worldometer is also correctly following the new CDC guideline of including both probable and confirmed in the total case and death counts.

    As with similar instances in the past (with other countries), we have added the additional data on the day it was reported. If and when the historical distribution is provided, we will make the needed adjustments.

    Finally, since every probable death necessarily implies a probable case, logic mandates that the adjustment be made to both deaths and cases, and not only to deaths. We have now adjusted April 14, April 15, and current data for New York State and the United States accordingly.
    Learn more Worldometer COVID-19 Data
    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/us-data/

    tl;dr bodies dumped in the street and found by neighbors the past 3 weeks were dumped into the total

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    Gdamn did Trump just kill Howard finkle?

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    BREAKING: wait, aren't we doing that too?


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    On cue, Worldometer added 1290 deaths to China's count today.

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    Update (17 April 2020---3:30AM):::


    Trump's Corona Plague dead: 34,617
    Regular Flu dead: 23+k
    Spanish Flu dead: 275k
    Obama's H1N1 Flu dead: 12.5k


    Let us proceed...

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    4500+ deaths just today

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    Update (17 April 2020---3:30AM):::


    Trump's Corona Plague dead: 34,617
    Regular Flu dead: 23+k
    Spanish Flu dead: 275k
    Obama's H1N1 Flu dead: 12.5k


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    Havin' the time of your life. Shame on ya, Splits.

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    This could cross 100k this month

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    4500+ deaths just today
    double that for people dying from C19 at home, see "excessive deaths", ie, deaths way above the historical avg for a month, where official C19 deaths are only half of the "excessive deaths", for 4 countries.

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    I was thinking 100k would be the cap, but , the rate we are going gonna hit 200k I think. Crazy sad times. A lot of the issue is old senile s like cubby thinking it wasn’t a big deal and going about life like normal

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    Innumeracy.

    800 one day later. OP does not understand exponential growth.

    I may not have superpowers, but I understand math. Deaths will follow diagnosed cases, and diagnosed cases have been following a pretty steep growth curve.

    Due to Republicans not taking precautions, and already chomping at the bit to roll back what has been done, people will die. They will die because this will spread farther than it should.

    Reality does not care about the president's fee fees, and the "tone at the top" matters. The tone at the top has been disorganized, uninformed, and irresponsible.

    & when (those Deaths) surpass 23+k "you'll" win.
    Record 4,591 reported U.S. Trump coronavirus deaths in 24 hours
    https://www.marke ch.com/story/re...urs-2020-04-16

    Ain't nobody winning anything.

    You were told you were an idiot, and you stuck to your guns. You chose the hill to die on.
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    This could cross 100k this month
    Looking very possible. 4k dead per day. NY will start rolling back as others slowly pick up steam. Florida is looking particularly fatal. Palm Beach = 5% fatality rate. Strongly implying that testing is lagging in the sunshine state, or just offing a lot of nursing home residents.

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    I was thinking 100k would be the cap, but , the rate we are going gonna hit 200k I think. Crazy sad times. A lot of the issue is old senile s like cubby thinking it wasn’t a big deal and going about life like normal
    .0066 fatality rate seems to be holding up. (estimated based on preliminary studies)(confirmed cases vastly too low due to a variety of factors)

    30% of the population getting sick = .3*300M *.0066 =653,000

    Flu normally infects 60% or more of the population.

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    Record 4,591 reported U.S. Trump coronavirus deaths in 24 hours
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    Ain't nobody winning anything.

    You were told you were an idiot, and you stuck to your guns. You chose the hill to die on.
    I implore you not to journey down that path again, oh, Kimosobe. Take many scalps. Lodge pole heavy with scalps.

    Smoke pipe of peace fortnight ago. Many moons. Do not dig up proverbial hatchet that is buried deep in consecrated ground.

    Yada hey.

    P.S. Bend over maize canister. Fill bottom with corn pone.

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    I implore you not to journey down that path again, oh, Kimosobe. Take many scalps. Lodge pole heavy with scalps.

    Smoke pipe of peace fortnight ago. Many moons. Do not dig up proverbial hatchet that is buried deep in consecrated ground.

    Yada hey.

    P.S. Bend over maize canister. Fill bottom with corn pone.
    The tone at the top continues to be disorganized, uninformed, and irresponsible. You want this man as your leader, you must own the tone.

    It is not good ground to die on. Custer's troops were loyal too, but Custer was an arrogant idiot.

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    The tone at the top continues to be disorganized, uninformed, and irresponsible. You want this man as your leader, you must own the tone.

    It is not good ground to die on. Custer's troops were loyal too, but Custer was an arrogant idiot.
    You want him to raise the white flag. Custer didn't. The old man won't...

    "With jacks and timbers they started back down."

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    You want him to raise the white flag. Custer didn't. The old man won't...

    "With jacks and timbers they started back down."
    I don't want Trump to raise the white flag.

    I want him to put down his phone and golf clubs and do his job.

    You don't care how many people his disorganized, uninformed, and irresponsible management style kills.

    Why do you hate America?

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    I don't want Trump to raise the white flag.

    I want him to put down his phone and golf clubs and do his job.

    You don't care how many people his disorganized, uninformed, and irresponsible management style kills.

    Why do you hate America?
    You want him to raise the dead like on television shows.

    Grow the up, RG.

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