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    It’s about 100% executive branch fault. Single by far greatest failure that has led to this show is lack of testing which could have arrested spread early on. Testing was the responsibility of the CDC. CDC is under the guidance of Trash’s executive branch. Rather than seeing where the DOW is every day, watching the news every day to line up his twitter feed and figuring out when his next golf outing would be Trash should have paid attention to, been monitoring the real emerging crisis. Plenty of experts were pointing out the potential disaster. When the testing sites were reporting failures in testing, if he wasn’t asleep at the wheel and knew how critical testing was, he would have made the appropriate and necessary adjustments to regulations to unleash the commercial labs. Meanwhile he would have been aware of of what supplies would be necessary to enable testing by the commercial labs which ultimately would have been necessary one way or the other and begun to procure them. We need a better, more intelligent, more engaged President. The country need and deserves it.
    I'll say the executive branch dithered. That should be sufficient for winehole. You can have that, I'll take Democrat 70% responsibility for lack of PPE, Republicans 30% responsibility.

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    You lot are so focused on me it's amusing. Why do you care what I think?
    I’m not focused on you. I was reading your discussion with EN and got slightly annoyed you wouldn’t address two of his points head on. You still haven’t btw.

    EN is about the straightest shooter in the PF. He’s lambasting the administration for their inep ude as well he should. All you’ve done is fumble around and say the feds suck. Not this administration of course, but the federal government in general. You whine about scoreboards and team sports but you play them just like the next guy.

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    I'll say the executive branch dithered.
    Did Trump dither?

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    I’m not focused on you. I was reading your discussion with EN and got slightly annoyed you wouldn’t address two of his points head on. You still haven’t btw.

    EN is about the straightest shooter in the PF. He’s lambasting the administration for their inep ude as well he should. All you’ve done is fumble around and say the feds suck. Not this administration of course, but the federal government in general. You whine about scoreboards and team sports but you play them just like the next guy.
    You're just trying to get me to say a team sucks. I think the entire game sucks. I don't watch soccer so if you ask me which team sucks the worst, I don't know, the whole ing game is poverty ball. I think the whole show in Washington is ed.

    I don't really care if it annoys you or not.

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    Got a link to this screed?


    The Chump shtick.

    "I can't argue any of the points made so I'll attack the source as not credible"

    it was printed in the National Review, hardly a pro-Trump publication.

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    Your next valuable take will be your first one.
    I’m just whale watching, humpback

    Now get back in there and finish dale’s leftovers

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    The Chump shtick.

    "I can't argue any of the points made so I'll attack the source as not credible"

    it was printed in the National Review, hardly a pro-Trump publication.
    Pretty partisan though, as was the article.

    Any publication trying to pimp Tom Cotton and his conspiracy theories is worthy of all the s

    Your shtick is hiding your sources.

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    I'll say the executive branch dithered. That should be sufficient for winehole. You can have that, I'll take Democrat 70% responsibility for lack of PPE, Republicans 30% responsibility.
    PPE should be managed primarily through the national stockpile. States should Not carry the bulk of the inventory, not cost effective or efficient. Federal can get better price and manage and move supplies around the country most effectively except of course if you appoint the renowned supply chain manager Jared to be in charge. The stockpile has been underfunded and undersupplied progressive for years, more so under Trump. You want to give Trump a pass because Obama didn’t do iteither. When your son little Billy doesn’t do his homework and says “yeah but Johnny didn’t do it either” do you give him a pass? We need a better leader.

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    Pretty partisan though, as was the article.

    Any publication trying to pimp Tom Cotton and his conspiracy theories is worthy of all the s

    Your shtick is hiding your sources.
    I gave you my source. As predicted, you didn't refute a single point in the article, just claimed the source was partisan as if it couldn't be true.

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    Also, your beef with Cotton is interesting. He was one of the first in Government to recognize the potential threat. On January 22, one day before the Chinese government began a quarantine of Wuhan to contain the spread of the virus, he sent a letter to Secretary of Health and Human Services Alex Azar encouraging the Trump administration to consider banning travel between China and the United States and warning that the Communist regime could be covering up how dangerous the disease really was. That same day, he amplified his warnings on Twitter and in an appearance on the radio program of Fox & Friends host Brian Kilmeade. Those are all facts that can be easily verified.

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    You should educate yourself and quit being stupid.. Congress appropriates money, not the President. that is an undeniable fact. It has nothing to do with "defending" Trump.
    exactly

    and when Congress and the WH had an APPROPRIATIONS meeting

    the WH officially stated that they had ENOUGH resources $$ to handle the incoming pandemic

    enough PPE and other necessary items



    but you dont want to hear that the WH deliberately dropped the ing ball even after Congress spoon-fed their incompetent ass

    hecause you cannot remove trumps balls from your throat

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    Also, your beef with Cotton is interesting. He was one of the first in Government to recognize the potential threat. On January 22, one day before the Chinese government began a quarantine of Wuhan to contain the spread of the virus, he sent a letter to Secretary of Health and Human Services Alex Azar encouraging the Trump administration to consider banning travel between China and the United States and warning that the Communist regime could be covering up how dangerous the disease really was. That same day, he amplified his warnings on Twitter and in an appearance on the radio program of Fox & Friends host Brian Kilmeade. Those are all facts that can be easily verified.
    Yep, that's the motte. His bailey is intimating the virus was a Chinese bioweapon. You are all over conservative media tho.

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    I gave you my source. As predicted, you didn't refute a single point in the article, just claimed the source was partisan as if it couldn't be true.
    Now you can post all the examples of partisan attacks from Trump and the GOP. National Review has cataloged all of those right?

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    PPE should be managed primarily through the national stockpile. States should Not carry the bulk of the inventory, not cost effective or efficient. Federal can get better price and manage and move supplies around the country most effectively except of course if you appoint the renowned supply chain manager Jared to be in charge. The stockpile has been underfunded and undersupplied progressive for years, more so under Trump. You want to give Trump a pass because Obama didn’t do iteither. When your son little Billy doesn’t do his homework and says “yeah but Johnny didn’t do it either” do you give him a pass? We need a better leader.
    You start out with some salient points and then you quickly deteriorate into proselytizng political mumbo jumbo bull . I get it it's an election year but I'm not here to look at your pamphlets.

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    You start out with some salient points and then you quickly deteriorate into proselytizng political mumbo jumbo bull .
    Did Trump dither?

    Yes or no.

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    Did Trump dither?

    Yes or no.
    when I narrow it down to administrations and give the Democrats 70% of the responsibility and the Republicans 30% of the responsibility, you want to add Congress to try to offset that 70%. However when you want to assign blame you say Trump. I will give Trump 30% of the responsibility of the entire PPE debacle where Administrations are concerned.

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    when I narrow it down to administrations and give the Democrats 70% of the responsibility and the Republicans 30% of the responsibility, you want to add Congress to try to offset that 70%. However when you want to assign blame you say Trump. I will give Trump 30% of the responsibility of the entire PPE debacle where Administrations are concerned.
    Sorry, you said the executive branch dithered. It's your characterization.

    I'm asking you a simple yes or no question about the current chief executive.

    Did Trump dither?

    Yes or no.

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    Technically and to be fair, the Obama Administration should actually have a higher percentage of the responsibility since they're the ones who used the PPE in the first place then for seven years never back filled.

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    Sorry, you said the executive branch dithered. It's your characterization.

    Did Trump dither?

    Yes or no.
    30% Dithering

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    Technically and to be fair, the Obama Administration should actually have a higher percentage of the responsibility since they're the ones who used the PPE in the first place then for seven years never back filled.
    Did Trump dither?

    Yes or no.

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    30% Dithering
    That's not a yes or no.

    Did Trump dither?

    Yes or no.

    You were able to say it for an entire branch of government.

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    30% Dithering
    Did Trump dither?

    Yes or no.
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