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    Illinois' governor organized secret flights to bring masks and gloves from China out of fear Trump would seize them

    Illinois Gov. J.B. Pritzker organized secret flights bringing millions of masks and gloves to the state from China on charter jets in an effort to bypass potential Trump administration efforts to seize the products, The Chicago Sun-Times reported.

    Two invoices from the state revealed $888,275 purchases for "aircraft charter flight to Shanghai, China for COVID-19 response," according to the newspaper.

    The state has reportedly spent $174 million on coronavirus-related purchases, such as ventilators, personal protective equipment, and hand sanitizer.

    The Sun-Times cited a source familiar with the purchases, who said the details were kept secret "because we've heard reports of Trump trying to take PPE in China and when it gets to the United States."

    Pritzker's press secretary declined to give the newspapers details on the flights, but noted the "challenges" Illinois has faced to obtain PPE for frontline health care workers.
    https://www.businessinsider.com/illi...m-china-2020-4

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    Sort of up-ends the "we don't need government, private charity can do it all" argument.

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    A FEMA spokeswoman denied
    Stop right there.

    Would the FEMA spokesman know about every case if hey did?

    Would the FEMA spokesman admit if they did know?

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    A FEMA spokeswoman denied seizing any states' shipments, but told The Times that "prioritizing PPE deliveries to COVID hot spots can have the unintended consequence of disrupting the regular supply chain deliveries to other areas of the country."

    States hoard as well. Texas has what, 300 or so deaths? NY has 20K (will have by the time I post this). Should Texas be able to get tons of PPE for backfill while NY is using garbage bags? This is where the feds come in and divert to FEMA for distribution.

    or get off the pot. Do you want states in charge of their own or the feds in charge of all states' ?
    So... you are saying the federal government should have nationalized the supply chain, to avoid things like that?

    I agree.

    Too bad that hasn't happened.

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    Sort of up-ends the "we don't need government, private charity can do it all" argument.
    that was Repugs message under shrub/ head. churches should do the charity work, not the govt because govt's "tax expenditures" for the oligarchy

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    "Trump’s enforcer, Attorney General Bill Barr, is now poised to support Trump’s call for insurrection

    by turning to the federal courts—

    seeded CORRUPTED! with a legion of newly installed right-wing jurists—

    to undermine critical public health protections on his boss’ behalf,” the Beast’s David Lurie wrote. “

    If Barr and Trump get their way,

    the states will soon be ‘opened up”’to the virus, and

    thus to a massive number of needless deaths.” "

    Barr already announced on Fox News that he would start scrutinizing actions taken by the states after April 30

    Barr, as well as many of the judges Trump has placed on the bench, will enthusiastically comply with the new call to

    undertake an offensive against states’ emergency health measures,”

    “The spectacle of having judges second-guessing the determinations of state health professionals serves

    Barr’s and Trump’s broader goal:

    to undermine the legitimacy and authority of governors,
    some of them Democrats in swing states,

    who have received far more robust public support for their effective responses to the pandemic than has Trump for his catastrophically late efforts.”

    “Barr’s efforts now to undermine the authority of governors is of a piece with

    his past work undermining the legitimacy of his own Justice Department,

    as well as the nation’s intelligence community and diplomatic corps,

    to help Trump escape the consequences of his criminal conduct

    the attorney general’s latest effort to misuse the authority of the law, and of the federal courts, to help Trump out of a political jam is likely to have more immediate, and fatal, consequences.”

    https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/bill-barr-is-about-to-take-the-fall-for-trumps-coronavirus-policy-report/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=4344

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    Barr Is Doing the Dirty Work as Trump Gambles With Our Lives

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/william-barr-is-the-enforcer-of-trumps-push-to-undermine-the-states-coronavirus-social-distancing-measures

    Last edited by boutons_deux; 04-20-2020 at 09:01 AM.

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    Looney Gohmert answers the call to War on Sanity

    GOP’s Louie Gohmert busted for hyping nonexistent ‘magic powder’ that purportedly kills COVID-19 instantly

    https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/gop...8460&list_id=1


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    Trash's toaides in FDA doing toadie work, sadistically ing over, impoverishing Americans

    Cruelty Is The Point

    Amid pandemic, FDA seizes cheaper drugs from Canada

    The Food and Drug Administration in the past month has

    stepped up seizures of prescription drugs being sent to American customers from pharmacies in Canada and other countries

    the latest crackdown is distressing many older customers whose goal is to stay home during the coronavirus pandemic.

    https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/amid-pandemic-fda-seizes-cheaper-drugs-from-canada/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=4344

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    "Trump’s enforcer, Attorney General Bill Barr, is now poised to support Trump’s call for insurrection

    by turning to the federal courts—

    seeded CORRUPTED! with a legion of newly installed right-wing jurists—

    to undermine critical public health protections on his boss’ behalf,” the Beast’s David Lurie wrote. “

    If Barr and Trump get their way,

    the states will soon be ‘opened up”’to the virus, and

    thus to a massive number of needless deaths.” "

    Barr already announced on Fox News that he would start scrutinizing actions taken by the states after April 30

    Barr, as well as many of the judges Trump has placed on the bench, will enthusiastically comply with the new call to

    undertake an offensive against states’ emergency health measures,”

    “The spectacle of having judges second-guessing the determinations of state health professionals serves

    Barr’s and Trump’s broader goal:

    to undermine the legitimacy and authority of governors,
    some of them Democrats in swing states,

    who have received far more robust public support for their effective responses to the pandemic than has Trump for his catastrophically late efforts.”

    “Barr’s efforts now to undermine the authority of governors is of a piece with

    his past work undermining the legitimacy of his own Justice Department,

    as well as the nation’s intelligence community and diplomatic corps,

    to help Trump escape the consequences of his criminal conduct

    the attorney general’s latest effort to misuse the authority of the law, and of the federal courts, to help Trump out of a political jam is likely to have more immediate, and fatal, consequences.”

    https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/bill-barr-is-about-to-take-the-fall-for-trumps-coronavirus-policy-report/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=4344

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    Barr Is Doing the Dirty Work as Trump Gambles With Our Lives

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/william-barr-is-the-enforcer-of-trumps-push-to-undermine-the-states-coronavirus-social-distancing-measures


    This makes perfect sense...if:



    Barr and Trump are WORKING FOR RUSSIA!!!!!

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    Stop right there.

    Would the FEMA spokesman know about every case if hey did?

    Would the FEMA spokesman admit if they did know?
    You're asking me to speculate. What's the point of that? Confirmation bias based speculation is pointless. All I can go by is statements which is what you're doing with the accusations.

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    So... you are saying the federal government should have nationalized the supply chain, to avoid things like that?

    I agree.

    Too bad that hasn't happened.
    This is the second iteration of you sidestepping the issue on the exact same post I made.

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    The Lancet publishes blistering editorial criticizing Trump's COVID-19 response

    "In hard-hit states such as New York, although hundreds of COVID-19 deaths are still occurring daily,

    hospital admissions appear to have plateaued.

    Credit might be due to effective physical distancing measures that limit community mobility.

    But progress in preventing the spread of COVID-19 has come with economic havoc—

    at least 17 million Americans are unemployed, a number that could ultimately surpass the Great Depression, and

    take years to correct.

    A new impasse is forming around the Trump administration's eagerness to boost the economy by lifting restrictions,

    just as mitigation efforts by the states are yielding results.

    The degree to which the USA stalled in taking aggressive action to curtail the spread of COVID-19 is directly the product of

    an administration marked by consistently poor timing,

    intent on making decisions in favour of economic interests

    instead of those that are guided by science and to protect health.

    The rush to reopen the country puts dollars over deaths.

    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/4/17/1938299/-The-Lancet-publishes-blistering-editorial-criticizing-Trump-s-feckless-COVID-19-response

    Dear Lancet, welcome to Capitalist USA, where infinitiely amassing Capital is the supreme value,

    with human and environment life destroyed for profit



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    ‘A lot of people love me’:

    Trump loses his temper when Yamiche Alcindor challenges his slow coronavirus response


    Yamiche Alcindor asked President Donald Trump

    whether his slow coronavirus response has led to more deaths

    than there would have been.

    Trump swiftly lost his temper and began hectoring her.

    “A lot of people love me … to the best of my knowledge, I won,” said Trump.

    When asked about rallies he held in February and March, Trump lied,

    “I don’t know anything about rallies.

    I haven’t left the White House in months,

    https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/a-l...e+Raw+Story%29

    Don The Con Trash, PVL FAILING so-called President, what a pathetic, unsympathetic piece of worthless

    LIE, NOBODY loves you asshole, no friends, no nothing, and it's all your own sick fault

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    This is the second iteration of you sidestepping the issue on the exact same post I made.
    No Take McGurk is upset with sidestepping.

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    FEMA seizes PPE from a distributor, lies about it and leaves it on a dock at JFK.

    Once he got a lawyer involved, FEMA finally sent him something in writing, explaining his equipment was being held under the authority of the Defense Production Act.

    He said his customers include nursing facilities, first responders and the state of Michigan.

    In an emailed statement, FEMA reportedly told the Delaware News Journal that reports of the agency commandeering or rerouting supplies were “false.”

    Such in-demand equipment “being distributed internally within the United States is not being seized,” FEMA reportedly said.

    Gianforcaro, meanwhile, shared a written order with the newspaper in which FEMA directed Indutex to sell to the federal government “all filtering facepiece respirators, including the N95 respirators contained within shipment number 8994645378 that arrived at JFK Airport” on April 6.


    The FEMA do ent also ordered Indutex to “set aside” all N95 or surgical masks that it acquires during the coronavirus emergency for a potential sale to FEMA.

    It said the masks would be sent to the Strategic National Stockpile.

    FEMA did not respond to follow-up questions about the paperwork, the newspaper reported.
    https://www.nydailynews.com/coronavi...kyu-story.html

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    Like the Chinese and Koreans a few here seem to think are the standard bearers?
    No, not really like that at all.

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    Like the Chinese and Koreans a few here seem to think are the standard bearers?
    we're bypassing Trump to get tests from Korea.

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    we're bypassing Trump to get tests from Korea.
    You'll need 350 million of 'em multiplied a goodly number of times. + the exact same # of beds/cradles & isolation rooms. & at some point you're going to have to have every one of those 350 rooms and beds/cradles occupied for the exact same 14 days period., 21 days to be on the safe side. You're gonna have to seal the border FOREVER and trust everyone on the other sides not to cross (Scouts honor) because there won't be any guards, they'll all be in their assigned isolation unit.

    Chop/chop.

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    You'll need 350 million of 'em multiplied a goodly number of times. + the exact same # of beds/cradles & isolation rooms. & at some point you're going to have to have every one of those 350 rooms and beds/cradles occupied for the exact same 14 days period., 21 days to be on the safe side. You're gonna have to seal the border FOREVER and trust everyone on the other sides not to cross (Scouts honor) because there won't be any guards, they'll all be in their assigned isolation unit.

    Chop/chop.
    I'd like to see how you figured these numbers.

    Looks lifted from a Facebook post.

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    Like the Chinese and Koreans a few here seem to think are the standard bearers?
    Sure, the Chinese and Koreans never heap false praise on their leaders... what was I thinking?

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    I'd like to see how you figured these numbers.

    Looks lifted from a Facebook post.
    You got 350 million Americans giveORtake + 20 million illegals. Anybody who is in country must be tested and then remanded to a 1 person isolation chamber/room for the duration. Once you get all 350 million people tested and isolated, you wait a week, test everybody again. Scour the countryside with forgeign troops to round up any American strays who've hid out like Anne Frank, or, CincQ/circa Patty Hearst. Test everyone one last time and start that big old clock top of the Sears Tower. 21 days later you turn everyone lose and watch 'em go.

    Back in the high life again.

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    You got 350 million Americans giveORtake + 20 million illegals. Anybody who is in country must be tested and then remanded to a 1 person isolation chamber/room for the duration. Once you get all 350 million people tested and isolated, you wait a week, test everybody again. Scour the countryside with forgeign troops to round up any American strays who've hid out like Anne Frank, or, CincQ/circa Patty Hearst. Test everyone one last time and start that big old clock top of the Sears Tower. 21 days later you turn everyone lose and watch 'em go.

    Back in the high life again.
    That's not how it works from what I've seen.

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    Several posters have criticized those raising the point about the feds seizing state orders of PPE -- even though Trump explicitly shirked responsibility onto the states. They've made that point, along with the same needling of MSM. All of which raises the question: Does anyone think the Trump administration is doing a good job handling the pandemic? If yes, what metric are you using to gauge his effectiveness? If no, what's the point of criticizing something that patently seems like a horrible and hypocritical "policy" decision.

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    That's not how it works from what I've seen.
    ...or, anyone else for that matter. But, you ain't gonna stop 'em from this testing horse . Even the old man can't stop it. " it, let 'em go. If I try and stop them I'll be worse off than letting it go. What the else can I do, Eric, Junior?"

    "Nothin' Pop."

    Be like Wayne, mid way thru [The Searchers] "Us turnin' back don't mean nothin. We'll get 'em in the end, just as sure as the turnin' of the earth."

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