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    some police state they've got there.

    pick a lane.

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    It would be vwry cool ifbwe had something handy that worked on COVID-19, but two different countries have already stopped clinical trials because they thought it was too dangerous. France and Brazil and the US NIH could all be wrong, but the trend isn't looking good for hydroxychloroquine.

    Maybe it's time to consider something else.

    How many do overs does this drug need?
    Give up because of a couple anecdotes

    but ya'll are hoping it works right?

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    Appreciate the correction.

    Why do you distrust the French trial and the NIH?
    Do you have a link?


    I know the FDA warned about people taking hydoxychloroquine or chloroquine "outside of the hospital setting or a clinical trial", but I've never heard anyone suggest otherwise.

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    some police state they've got there.

    pick a lane.
    sanctuary state

    Total chaos brought to you by Democrats/Soros

    Don't worry they will provide a solution that involves lining their pockets.

    Hegelian Dialectic demands it.

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    sanctuary state

    Total chaos brought to you by Democrats/Soros

    Don't worry they will provide a solution that involves lining their pockets.

    Hegelian Dialectic demands it.
    Doesn't really look like chaos though.

    Have you ever been to California?

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    This Japanese Island Lifted Its Coronavirus Lockdown Too Soon and Became a Warning to the World
    Hokkaido, Japan, locked down early and contained the outbreak. When the governor lifted restrictions, a second wave hit even harder

    https://apple.news/A0lbgreVIS56KVbfmrAdwgQ

    What happens when MAGAT re s push to open to soon and to stupid.
    The same thing that will happen when you open later. The goal is to not overwhelm the hospitals. Was Japan unable to handle patients at the hospital?

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    Do you have a link?


    I know the FDA warned about people taking hydoxychloroquine or chloroquine "outside of the hospital setting or a clinical trial", but I've never heard anyone suggest otherwise.
    While the NIH doean't presume to prohibit doctors from prescribing, I see no language saying it's ok to use hyroxychloroquine outside a clinical trial, period.

    The COVID-19 Treatment Guidelines Panel (the Panel) does not recommend the use of any agents for pre-exposure prophylaxis (PrEP) against severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) outside of the setting of a clinical trial (AIII).
    The Panel does not recommend the use of any agents for post-exposure prophylaxis (PEP) against SARS-CoV-2 infection outside of the setting of a clinical trial (AIII).
    The Panel recommends no additional laboratory testing and no specific treatment for persons with suspected or confirmed asymptomatic or presymptomatic SARS-CoV-2 infection (AIII).
    At present, no drug has been proven to be safe and effective for treating COVID-19. There are insufficient data to recommend either for or against the use of any antiviral or immunomodulatory therapy in patients with COVID-19 who have mild, moderate, severe, or critical illness (AIII).
    https://covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov/overview/

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    So maybe hydroxychloroquine will be vindicated in further trials. It's just kind of weird there are so many non-specialists hyping it.

    Or maybe not so weird.

    WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO LOSE?

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    Damn, testing is growing quite quickly after stagnating for way too long. Seemed like two weeks in the 100k-140k range.

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    So maybe hydroxychloroquine will be vindicated in further trials. It's just kind of weird there are so many non-specialists hyping it.

    Or maybe not so weird.

    WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO LOSE?

    It's the zinc that theoretically stops the virus replication. HCQ just helps get it into the cell. At least, that's my understanding.

    I know ventilators are not the answer.

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    I know ventilators are not the answer.
    Not unless you want to die

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    It's the zinc that theoretically stops the virus replication. HCQ just helps get it into the cell. At least, that's my understanding.

    I know ventilators are not the answer.
    Who says ventilators are the answer?

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    Who says ventilators are the answer?

    We need something that keeps people out of hospital and definitely off ventilators.

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    We need something that keeps people out of hospital and definitely off ventilators.
    Sure, mechanical aspiration is to be avoided if at all possible. I don't think anyone has touted respirators as a cure, it's just an extreme way to keep people oxygenated.

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    Sure, mechanical aspiration is to be avoided if at all possible. I don't think anyone has touted respirators as a cure, it's just an extreme way to keep people oxygenated.
    By the way, whatever works is fine with me. If that something is NOT HCQ, so be it.

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    It's the zinc that theoretically stops the virus replication. HCQ just helps get it into the cell. At least, that's my understanding.

    I know ventilators are not the answer.
    Do you know of any clinical trials using both together? God I hope we're not stuck just letting it run its course through everyone completely unchecked until we have a vaccine.

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    "hostile questions"

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    "hostile questions"
    "Mr President, you mentioned yesterday about the potential of Clorox to cure coronavirus..Can you spoke more about that please"

    " See this is the problem with you..Fake news. Making stories up..You're not a great reporter"

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    "Mr President, you mentioned yesterday about the potential of Clorox to cure coronavirus..Can you spoke more about that please"

    " See this is the problem with you..Fake news. Making stories up..You're not a great reporter"
    TAKING MUH BALL AND GOING HOME

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    Great news

    Hopefully Dr Birx and Dr Fauci can continue to give actual sane information through all outlets.

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    Do you know of any clinical trials using both together? God I hope we're not stuck just letting it run its course through everyone completely unchecked until we have a vaccine.
    Not sure


    https://www.clinicaltrials.gov

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    Great news

    Hopefully Dr Birx and Dr Fauci can continue to give actual sane information through all outlets.
    Dr Birx had an anxiety attack at the last Trump TV comedy show.
    She is older and needs to stay out of the room when he comes on.

    Im sorry Dr Birx, but the look on your face was priceless.
    I had to laugh, and cry for you at the same time.

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    Dr Birx had an anxiety attack at the last Trump TV comedy show.
    She is older and needs to stay out of the room when he comes on.

    Im sorry Dr Birx, but the look on your face was priceless.
    I had to laugh, and cry for you at the same time.
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    Oh are you under the illusion that this will be over by late June and that’s it?

    By default we’ll be stuck with this for at least a year without a vaccine. So is 2 years really that hard to believe?

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