The approval bump Donald Trump got from COVID was historically low compared to other crises of this magnitude, and you're ing re ed if you think that bump had anything to do with his daily campaign rally. He was gifted a disaster and still couldn't keep from shooting himself in the foot.
This is just a thing that is with us now. Forever
At the end of the day, you are just waiting your turn to get it. Hopefully, you're not one of the unlucky ones that gets a bad outcome.
Thanks China.
Supply and demand shocks in meatpacking:
https://heisenbergreport.com/2020/04...ationary-side/In Minnesota, it’s so bad that some farmers have resorted to “destroying” full-grown hogs, Bloomberg reported Thursday.
“Hog farmers don’t have the facilities to hold the animals and when they grow too large to be handled by packers, growers don’t have much choice”, the linked article reads, noting that north of the border, Canadian producers are losing money. Apparently, the hog backlog (if you will) stood at nearly 100,000 in eastern Canada as of last Friday.
Ultimately, we’re in a situation where nearly 25% of pork production is offline in the US. For beef, the number is around 10%. That’s according to United Food & Commercial Workers who said the following in an urgent statement on Thursday:
The UFCW also released new updates on the serious and deadly impact of the Covid-19 virus. As of today, and based on UFCW internal estimates, 10 meatpacking workers and 3 food processing workers have died. In addition, at least 5,000 meatpacking workers and 1,500 food processing workers have been directly impacted by the virus. The estimates of those meatpacking and processing workers directly impacted includes individuals who have tested positive for COVID-19, missed work due to self-quarantine, are awaiting test results, or have been hospitalized and/or are symptomatic.
In total, the UFCW identified that 13 plants have closed at some point in the past two months. These closures have resulted in over 24,500 workers impacted and a 25 percent reduction in pork slaughter capacity and a 10 percent reduction in beef slaughter capacity.
. Why do you follow bald face liars? They weren't "defying ." The beaches were reopen:
I'm okay with this, too. More and more concrete information about this virus is showing that it doesn't transmit well in open air and is possibly inactivated by UV light. Australia could be an example of this, as they had beaches open, and have one of the most controlled outbreaks in the world. An "authoritarian" wouldn't reopen anything in light of better information.Coronavirus lockdowns were lifted at beaches across Orange County as temperatures surpassed 80 degrees.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...coronavirus-us
Here we go....
Bar and nightclub owners say they could begin opening their doors to the public within the next few weeks.
The proposed roll-out would begin in two phases with restaurants opening first on May 5 and bars and nightclubs coming two weeks later on May 19, according to the Texas Bar and Nightclub Association....
https://www.kxan.com/news/local/aust...h-restaurants/
You can enforce a degree of social distancing in a restaurant. Or have dining outside. Bars and clubs should be indefinitely shutdown. Recipe for disaster.
Dance six feet away from everyone while drinking through the mask?
Stupid
You can bet Brad Pitt got a test. Ironic skit by him tbh
I think there are far too many small, poorly circulated restaurants to safely do the dine in thing too. One gust of air after a door opens in a place like that and suddenly people are sucking in Covid. Unless they're somehow eating with masks on, I guess.
I'm sure you would be donating to these bar and club small businesses while they endure your indefinite shutdown.
So Trump bad now?
Last edited by Blake; 04-26-2020 at 04:18 AM.
It's funny cause his approval went up when he surrounded himself with experts and they delivered all the info, like grown ups. Trump's problem was that he ran out of to talk about so it regressed to his usual moonbat campaign rally shtick.
Don't watch SLN, but I thought it was hilarious
stop with this misinformation.
We were told (by the Usual Suspects of the right wing hate media and Repugs) that C19 was the flu, or what just like the flu, so relax, no need for anybody to do anything special. the flu kills a lot more people, C19 is less fatal
Testing, testing, testing, but especially in nursing homes, jails, prisons, assisted living homes, mental health facilities, etc..
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe2009758A new approach that expands Covid-19 testing to include asymptomatic persons residing or working in skilled nursing facilities needs to be implemented now. Despite “lockdowns” in these facilities, coronavirus outbreaks continue to spread, with 1 in 10 nursing homes in the United States (>1300 skilled nursing facilities) now reporting cases, with the likelihood of thousands of deaths.6 Mass testing of the residents in skilled nursing facilities will allow appropriate isolation of infected residents so that they can be cared for and quarantine of exposed residents to minimize the risk of spread. Mass testing in these facilities could also allow cohorting7 and some resumption of group activities in a nonoutbreak setting. Routine rRT-PCR testing in addition to symptomatic screening of new residents before entry, conservative guidelines for discontinuation of isolation,7 and periodic retesting of long-term residents, as well as both periodic rRT-PCR screening and surgical masking of all staff, are important concomitant measures.
There are approximately 1.3 million Americans currently residing in nursing homes.8 Although this recommendation for mass testing in skilled nursing facilities could be initially rolled out in geographic areas with high rates of community Covid-19 transmission, an argument can be made to extend this recommendation to all U.S.-based skilled nursing facilities now because case ascertainment is uneven and incomplete and because of the devastating consequences of outbreaks. Immediately enforceable alternatives to mass testing in skilled nursing facilities are few. The public health director of Los Angeles has recommended that families remove their loved ones from nursing homes,9 a measure that is not feasible for many families.
Asymptomatic transmission of SARS-CoV-2 is the Achilles’ heel of Covid-19 pandemic control through the public health strategies we have currently deployed. Symptom-based screening has utility, but epidemiologic evaluations of Covid-19 outbreaks within skilled nursing facilities such as the one described by Arons et al. strongly demonstrate that our current approaches are inadequate. This recommendation for SARS-CoV-2 testing of asymptomatic persons in skilled nursing facilities should most likely be expanded to other congregate living situations, such as prisons and jails (where outbreaks in the United States, whose incarceration rate is much higher than rates in other countries, are increasing), enclosed mental health facilities, and homeless shelters, and to hospitalized inpatients. Current U.S. testing capability must increase immediately for this strategy to be implemented.
Packing into dining rooms is lunacy when SARSCov2 can be transmitted through airborne droplets. How do people wear masks when they're eating? And they'll be spreading tons of droplets all throughout the dining room talking to their family/friends while sitting there for half an hour to an hour. Six feet is a joke with people not wearing masks in a small area with AC carrying their droplets around the room while they're there for an extended period.
But the worst thing is gyms reopening. That right there shows you Trump couldn't give the slightest about any of our lives. A bunch of people in an enclosed area for extended periods exhaling droplets through breathing hard on the treadmill, bike, bench press, etc. Who doesn't exhale with a lot more force than normal when exercising hard?
God damn the USA
Indefinite=/=forever. But they shouldn't be allowed to open until we get further clarification on how the virus transmits in spaces like that.
I would think if restaurants were allowed to reopen, it would be at 25% capacity and only if you have a large enough dining area to keep patrons some 10 feet away from another table. Outdoor and/or drive up (like those 50s diners with the rollergirl waitresses) dining is another option. The food service industry employs more workers than any other, so we're going to have to figure out a way to slowly and carefully bring that industry back on line.
Yep.
Basically because it is.
Actual actors can do this better than most people which is why they do these entertainment gigs.
I liked the relative time analogy.
The sit down restaurant industry is just going to die. Anyone with a room temperature IQ is not going to pack themselves into dining rooms in a pandemic even if the crooks in power say it's ok. Restaurants with decently sized dining rooms won't survive on 3-4 tables in the place and not many are going to last on takeout since the margins usually aren't very good on food when you take away the mixed drinks, beer, wine, soda, iced tea, etc that are the real profit centers.
I fear you're right about this, but there are much worse things than having to eat at home.
https://www.gutenberg.org/files/2370...-h/23700-h.htm
Last edited by Winehole23; 04-26-2020 at 09:05 AM.
sadly this makes a lot of sense
I think there would be some ppl willing to risk it(young) but at least 50% restaurants will die a horrible death
also delivery food is fine
but pickup from better restaurants is sad. the food comes out cold and not fresh. its a ty experience
I rather cook than eat that most times. sadly
wonder how food trucks will do
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