Coronavirus is one mutation away from infecting millions

[ElNono]

Man, if drumpf got corona and died, that high-pitched screeching would finally go away.

At least he couldn't dodge that one claiming bone spurs.

[DMC]

It’s one of the dumbest excuses I’ve yet heard. It’s not like trump had any part in the strategy used by the lawyers at the “trial.”

What he’s saying is that Trump was too busy watching Fox & Friends to begin acting like an actual president for once

Our rating: True
We rate this claim TRUE because it is supported by our research. There is no indication that the Obama administration took significant steps to replenish the supply of N95 masks in the Strategic National Stockpile after it was depleted from repeated crises. Calls for action came from experts at the time concerned for the country’s ability to respond to future serious pandemics. Such recommendations were, for whatever reason, not heeded.

So I will say the Trump administration is 30% culpable for lack of PPE while the Obama admin is 70% culpable. Those do not fall on state governments as they do not control the national stockpile.

I said this some time ago. Neither admin did a bang up job on PPE.

[Spurs Homer]

It's pretty chicken how he lied about having mass drive-thru testing in Walmart and Walgreens parking lots. It has been a month and a half, 57,000 are dead, and it's still not here. He still says we don't need more testing to open the country back up, he's obviously not worried about contact tracing. Having states competing with each other for PPE is insane. Not using the WHO tests that have done great in South Korea, holy what a -up that was. Showing solidarity with spoiled adults blocking off roads in front of a hospital in Lansing when Michigan is getting completely butt ed by this virus is unforgivable. Telling the 30% who will follow to him to and back that he has heard we'll have a vaccine in two months back in March is sociopathic. Trying to prop up the stock market with lies instead of just telling people what's actually happening with the virus is cowardly and a total abandonment of leadership. Having Mnuchin tell the people they'd have two $1200 checks coming and then only sending one as part of his corporate bailout was a nice bait and switch to a nation of people who can't pay their rent and can't pay their mortgage because Trump didn't care and didn't do anything to slow this virus early on. The execution of his European travel ban was a disaster since it ensured thousands of Americans returning home from the then epicenter of the pandemic were packed together like sardines for hours in our airports. That likely killed many Americans. I take issue with him publicly pushing for cruise ship companies that don't pay US taxes and don't employ Americans to get bailed out. Putting the nation's reopening in the hands of total ups like Larry Kudlow, Wilbur Ross, Jared Cuckner, and Ivanka Trump is ridiculous. I don't feel like typing any more.

too bad you got tired of typing...


you were about a third of the way through the colossal up...

[ElNono]

Pretty sure he doesn’t since he was saying Trump was justified in criticizing the CDC

Even if we were to argue Congress completely botched any kind of action, it doesn't nullify the executive's incompetence.

[vy65]

Our rating: True
We rate this claim TRUE because it is supported by our research. There is no indication that the Obama administration took significant steps to replenish the supply of N95 masks in the Strategic National Stockpile after it was depleted from repeated crises. Calls for action came from experts at the time concerned for the country’s ability to respond to future serious pandemics. Such recommendations were, for whatever reason, not heeded.

So I will say the Trump administration is 30% culpable for lack of PPE while the Obama admin is 70% culpable. Those do not fall on state governments as they do not control the national stockpile.

I said this some time ago. Neither admin did a bang up job on PPE.

Obama ed up. He should have replenished the stock pile. That doesn’t exonerate your dear leader from
his own up. I get that you wanna die on the Obama hill, but it’s really simple: one presidents ups don’t let the subsequent administration off the hook.

Lol percentages

[DMC]

You do know the CDC is part of the executive branch, not Congress or the Judiciary, right?

The national stockpile falls under the DHHS and Trump fired the director.

[vy65]

Even if we were to argue Congress completely botched any kind of action, it doesn't nullify the executive's incompetence.

Separation of powers don’t matter much to the cult when it can be used to semen shield for dear leader

[DMC]

Obama ed up. He should have replenished the stock pile. That doesn’t exonerate your dear leader from
his own up. I get that you wanna die on the Obama hill, but it’s really simple: one presidents ups don’t let the subsequent administration off the hook.

Lol percentages

No, Trump isn't exonerated. He's 30% culpable. If I had to issue a jail sentence, I would give Trump 3 years, Obama 7 years.

[ChumpDumper]

Our rating: True
We rate this claim TRUE because it is supported by our research. There is no indication that the Obama administration took significant steps to replenish the supply of N95 masks in the Strategic National Stockpile after it was depleted from repeated crises. Calls for action came from experts at the time concerned for the country’s ability to respond to future serious pandemics. Such recommendations were, for whatever reason, not heeded.

So I will say the Trump administration is 30% culpable for lack of PPE while the Obama admin is 70% culpable. Those do not fall on state governments as they do not control the national stockpile.

I said this some time ago. Neither admin did a bang up job on PPE.

What % responsibility do you give Trump for this?

U.S. intelligence agencies issued warnings about the novel coronavirus in more than a dozen classified briefings prepared for President Trump in January and February, months during which he continued to play down the threat, according to current and former U.S. officials.

The repeated warnings were conveyed in issues of the President’s Daily Brief, a sensitive report that is produced before dawn each day and designed to call the president’s attention to the most significant global developments and security threats.

For weeks, the PDB — as the report is known — traced the virus’s spread around the globe, made clear that China was suppressing information about the contagion’s transmissibility and lethal toll, and raised the prospect of dire political and economic consequences.

But the alarms appear to have failed to register with the president, who routinely skips reading the PDB and has at times shown little patience for even the oral summary he takes two or three times per week, according to the officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss classified material....

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...101_story.html

90% Black President? 98%?

[vy65]

The national stockpile falls under the DHHS and Trump fired the director.

[vy65]

No, Trump isn't exonerated. He's 30% culpable. If I had to issue a jail sentence, I would give Trump 3 years, Obama 7 years.

That’s beyond re ed

[DMC]

Where's the administration request for a PPE bill? Was this before or after saying it was going to disappear like a miracle?

I looked all the way back to 2009 and didn't find a single request.

[vy65]

DMC is right to be looking to Obama to bail us out of this situation since Trump is utterly incapable of doing so

[DMC]

About the Strategic National Stockpile
With approximately 200 federal and contract employees, the Strategic National Stockpile is organized to support any public health threat. Stockpile staff represent a variety of specialties, and all work together to ensure the right resources are ready and can get to the right place at the right time.

Information and Planning Branch
The Information and Planning Branch coordinates preparedness activities for the stockpile and its partners to maintain alternative emergency medical supply chain capabilities. This branch:

Designs and delivers training and exercise support for public health and emergency staff and partners
Maintains day-to-day situational awareness, ensuring the stockpile is ready to respond
Manages the stockpile’s response activities during a public health emergency
Learn more about the history of stockpile responses.

Management and Business Operations Branch
The Management and Business Operations Branch provides operational support. This branch:

Manages quality control of the stockpile’s inventory and IT support of inventory management systems
Maintains fiduciary responsibilities associated with a budget that often exceeds $500 million
Conducts strategic planning, forecasting the five year budget requirements, and management
Executes all internal and external communication on behalf of the division
Oversees policy, legislation and issues management
Operational Logistics Branch
The Operational Logistics Branch is responsible for the stockpile’s inventory of antibiotics, medical supplies, equipment, antidotes, an oxins, antivirals, vaccines, and other pharmaceuticals that are strategically located throughout the United States and its territories. This branch:

Gets needed medicines and supplies into the stockpile
Makes sure the right amounts and types of medicines and supplies are available to respond to an emergency
Ensures the stockpile can resupply state and local public health agencies in a catastrophic health event
Science Branch
The Science Branch manages the medical, pharmaceutical, and scientific oversight of stockpile products. This branch:

Ensures the scientific review of all medical assets in the stockpile
Takes part in the PHEMCE process, which helps plan which resources the stockpile will need to protect the nation’s health
Serves as subject matter experts on critical medicines and medical supplies (medical countermeasures) necessary in a public health emergency
Strategic Logistics Branch
The Strategic Logistics staff builds relationships between public health and other federal agencies and private partners. This branch:

Coordinates information sharing with states and locals during public health emergencies to determine the most efficient way to approach a response.
Works with partners inside and outside of government to support optimal distribution of medical countermeasures during public health emergencies.
Serves as a point of contact for federal agencies, non-governmental organizations, and commercial partners for stockpile initiatives
​

And no PPE

Just look at that government efficiency.

[ElNono]

The national stockpile falls under the DHHS and Trump fired the director.

Another dept under the executive branch

[ChumpDumper]

About the Strategic National Stockpile
With approximately 200 federal and contract employees, the Strategic National Stockpile is organized to support any public health threat. Stockpile staff represent a variety of specialties, and all work together to ensure the right resources are ready and can get to the right place at the right time.

Information and Planning Branch
The Information and Planning Branch coordinates preparedness activities for the stockpile and its partners to maintain alternative emergency medical supply chain capabilities. This branch:

Designs and delivers training and exercise support for public health and emergency staff and partners
Maintains day-to-day situational awareness, ensuring the stockpile is ready to respond
Manages the stockpile’s response activities during a public health emergency
Learn more about the history of stockpile responses.

Management and Business Operations Branch
The Management and Business Operations Branch provides operational support. This branch:

Manages quality control of the stockpile’s inventory and IT support of inventory management systems
Maintains fiduciary responsibilities associated with a budget that often exceeds $500 million
Conducts strategic planning, forecasting the five year budget requirements, and management
Executes all internal and external communication on behalf of the division
Oversees policy, legislation and issues management
Operational Logistics Branch
The Operational Logistics Branch is responsible for the stockpile’s inventory of antibiotics, medical supplies, equipment, antidotes, an oxins, antivirals, vaccines, and other pharmaceuticals that are strategically located throughout the United States and its territories. This branch:

Gets needed medicines and supplies into the stockpile
Makes sure the right amounts and types of medicines and supplies are available to respond to an emergency
Ensures the stockpile can resupply state and local public health agencies in a catastrophic health event
Science Branch
The Science Branch manages the medical, pharmaceutical, and scientific oversight of stockpile products. This branch:

Ensures the scientific review of all medical assets in the stockpile
Takes part in the PHEMCE process, which helps plan which resources the stockpile will need to protect the nation’s health
Serves as subject matter experts on critical medicines and medical supplies (medical countermeasures) necessary in a public health emergency
Strategic Logistics Branch
The Strategic Logistics staff builds relationships between public health and other federal agencies and private partners. This branch:

Coordinates information sharing with states and locals during public health emergencies to determine the most efficient way to approach a response.
Works with partners inside and outside of government to support optimal distribution of medical countermeasures during public health emergencies.
Serves as a point of contact for federal agencies, non-governmental organizations, and commercial partners for stockpile initiatives
​

And no PPE

Just look at that government efficiency.

There was PPE.

Just not enough.

Were they supposed to buy it with their own money?

[ElNono]

I looked all the way back to 2009 and didn't find a single request.

Exactly. So how's "the left" in Congress fault's for this?

[DarrinS]

Imagine how ahead of the curve we'd be if he started ramping up production of tests + PPE in January?

Well, China shared the genetic sequence on Jan. 12, so ramping up tests in January would've been a in miracle.

I know this got ignored, but I wonder what our response would've been with more transparency from China?

The WHO tweeted that it wasn't transmitted person to person.

[DMC]

DMC is right to be looking to Obama to bail us out of this situation since Trump is utterly incapable of doing so

70/30.

That's fair. Obviously neither were interested in bailing out anyone except themselves.

The Obamas reportedly just bought a $12 million home on Martha's Vineyard. They're worth 30 times more than when they entered the White House in 2008

[vy65]

I know this got ignored, but I wonder what our response would've been with more transparency from China?

The WHO tweeted that it wasn't transmitted person to person.

Probably a couple pressers on the health benefits of chugging Clorox

[DMC]

I know this got ignored, but I wonder what our response would've been with more transparency from China?

The WHO tweeted that it wasn't transmitted person to person.

You cannot submit sounds to the echo chamber. The echo chamber will request the sounds it wants from you and only accept those sounds.

[ChumpDumper]

70/30.

That's fair. Obviously neither were interested in bailing out anyone except themselves.

The Obamas reportedly just bought a $12 million home on Martha's Vineyard. They're worth 30 times more than when they entered the White House in 2008

Black President pilfered that money too right?

[ElNono]

I know this got ignored, but I wonder what our response would've been with more transparency from China?

The WHO tweeted that it wasn't transmitted person to person.

I didn't ignore this, but it's only slightly off, thus why I didn't correct it. First reported case in SK was more or less same as US (tail end of January for SK, start of Feb for US), they were already doing massive testing by the beginning of March, we're still not.

[vy65]

70/30.

That's fair. Obviously neither were interested in bailing out anyone except themselves.

The Obamas reportedly just bought a $12 million home on Martha's Vineyard. They're worth 30 times more than when they entered the White House in 2008

You’re right. Obama did have a ton more national security pressers on the emerging coronavirus threat back in 2016

[DMC]

You cannot submit sounds to the echo chamber. The echo chamber will request the sounds it wants from you and only accept those sounds.

See below

Probably a couple pressers on the health benefits of chugging Clorox

You will only get noise out if you don't follow directions.