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    I wouldn’t be surprised if Sleepy Joe created this virus in his basement to infect MAGA reflection chances. In fact I belief ritut

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    Lefties want that W bad

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    Excess death figures for most countries are out now. You're free to look up that of South Korea if you want to prove something.
    So the ability to have that many excess deaths recorded improperly only exists outside of South Korea.

    Else you have to hide bodies and subdue families, and no one sees a possible other explanation.

    Got it

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    So the ability to have that many excess deaths recorded improperly only exists outside of South Korea.

    Else you have to hide bodies and subdue families, and no one sees a possible other explanation.

    Got it
    So you're not going to look and just want to stick to your shrewish innuendo.

    Got it.

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    I mean it's not like you're the only person who ever thought of these things, Karen.

    United States
    Official deaths according to Johns Hopkins University: 24,429

    On Feb. 28, a Washington state man in his 50s became the first confirmed coronavirus death in the U.S. As of April 14, the nation’s death toll stood at more than 24,000, making it the highest in the world.

    And epidemiologists in the U.S. suspect that, due to the general lack of testing capacity and varying standards from state to state, this number may be an underestimate. Earlier this year, the percentage of deaths due to pneumonia nationwide was declining.
    By mid-March, pneumonia-related deaths were above the threshold that would be considered alarming. Normally, a decline in flu deaths would coincide with a decline in pneumonia fatalities. In Washington state, Florida and New York, pneumonia deaths increased even as deaths due to the flu were declining, according to data collected by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

    “In the United States, testing started very slowly which allowed the virus to spread silently through the population,” Chowell said. “And then obviously when people start to die, they are classified as a death from a respiratory disease or flu-like symptoms who may also have hypertension or diabetes. Those deaths will likely not get counted when in reality it was the virus that triggered their death.”

    The CDC came to pretty much the same conclusion: “Deaths due to COVID-19 may be misclassified as pneumonia deaths in the absence of positive test results, and pneumonia may appear on death certificates as a comorbid condition. Thus, increases in pneumonia deaths may be an indicator of excess COVID-19-related mortality.”

    As with some countries in Europe, the U.S. is working to establish a more real-time understanding of deaths that may be coronavirus related but have been attributed to other causes. Normally, this kind of analysis — called excess mortality surveys — takes a year to develop.

    South Korea
    Official deaths according to Johns Hopkins University: 225

    Because of a rigorous testing regime, South Korea's mortality statistics are likely the most accurate in the world, said Daniel Lopez-Acuna, an epidemiologist who spent 30 years at the World Health Organization. South Korea's testing regime, which is responsible for roughly 400,000 molecular tests, has enabled it to “trace, test, treat” a large proportion of the population relative to other countries. This has also kept the number of reported infections at 10,591.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/o...oblem-n1183756

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    Fauci said Remdesivir data showed quite good news.
    No China said it doesn't work.

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    So you're not going to look and just want to stick to your shrewish innuendo.

    Got it.
    It's irrelevant to the point I was making. You know that, you're just being the prototypical bag.

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    It's irrelevant to the point I was making. You know that, you're just being the prototypical bag.
    Kitty got her claws out.

    There are innocent explanations for undercounts as shown above, but as the number of deaths grows, the incentive for some parties to withhold numbers also increases. You could fill in the blanks about whom those parties might be, but you're only going to speculate when it suits your agenda.

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    Kitty got her claws out.

    There are innocent explanations for undercounts as shown above, but as the number of deaths grows, the incentive for some parties to withhold numbers also increases. You could fill in the blanks about whom those parties might be, but you're only going to speculate when it suits your agenda.
    But where are the bodies? What about the families?

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    But where are the bodies? What about the families?
    The bodies are being stored or buried or burned. The families know about the deaths and are free to talk about them.

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    The bodies are being stored or buried or burned. The families know about the deaths and are free to talk about them.
    If only South Korea knew that was an option.

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    If only South Korea knew that was an option.
    Being as big a failure as the US was an option. They didn't take it.

    You have your explanations why ROK is doing better, you're just throwing a tantrum because you don't want to accept them. I don't know why it's so important to you, but there you are.

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    Dr. Anthony Fauci says Gilead’s remdesivir will set a new ‘standard of care’ for coronavirus treatment

    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/29/dr-a...good-news.html


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    Dr. Anthony Fauci says Gilead’s remdesivir will set a new ‘standard of care’ for coronavirus treatment

    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/29/dr-a...good-news.html

    From 2016

    2. Gilead Sciences
    Trump owns shares of drug developer Gilead Sciences (NASDAQ:GILD) in two of his five investment accounts. Per the filing, Trump owns between $100,001 and $250,000 worth of Gilead stock in a Deutsche asset management account and between $250,001 and $500,000 in an account with Oppenheimer.

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    Dr. Anthony Fauci says Gilead’s remdesivir will set a new ‘standard of care’ for coronavirus treatment

    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/29/dr-a...good-news.html

    He also swore up & down that HIV would lead to full blown AIDs in only 30% of cases.

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    Dr Facci already said “there will not be a wonder drug for this”

    case closed

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    No China said it doesn't work.
    Who knows what China did but it did say avg duration of symptoms was 14 days which means patient were probably very sick, probably most on ventilators, before medication was begun. Data released so far suggests if this is going to be effective, and how effective, it’s needs to be given earlier when symptoms are not so advanced which makes sense since the drug prevents viral replication and isn’t an anti-inflammatory. I imagine if it’s effective it’ll be as a first line of defense drug, with some anti-inflammatory as second lie. There could also eventual be a better first line drug and ultimately hopefully a vaccine.
    Last edited by picnroll; 04-29-2020 at 01:25 PM.

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    Sure would be nice to have those tests instead of the 70% ones

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    good news for SK.

    totally irrelevant to America's Trump Pandemic where testing is both flakey and not widely available.

    Kushner says everything is cool, he and Trash have beaten the pandemic

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    And Maryland for awhile.

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    About that underreporting - UK just raised their death toll by 4000.

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    About that underreporting - UK just raised their death toll by 4000.
    Dead Brits bad now?

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    About that underreporting - UK just raised their death toll by 4000.
    They acknowledged a few weeks ago they were only reporting hospital deaths and were going to change.

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