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    Fauci seems pretty excited about it

    He literally just said that it shows we can fight it. No miracles here though. Just opens up an avenue to explore for treatments.

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    goddam 60,000 souls lost

    already surpassed Faccis revised estimate

    Facci sounds like he turned into a cheerleader bull ing anything his boss tells him

    that poor sob is broken

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    remdesivir reduces the death rate down from 11% to 8%,

    hospital discharge from 15 days to 11 days.

    how much will it cost? $1000s ?> $10,000s ?

    when will it be available?

    How advanced must your symptoms be to qualify? I guess BigInsurance will decide.

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    remdesivir reduces the death rate down from 11% to 8%,

    hospital discharge from 15 days to 11 days.

    how much will it cost? $1000s ?> $10,000s ?

    when will it be available?

    How advanced must your symptoms be to qualify? I guess BigInsurance will decide.
    I’m sure it won’t be cheap but then neither are three extra days in the ICU.

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    remdesivir reduces the death rate down from 11% to 8%,

    hospital discharge from 15 days to 11 days.

    how much will it cost? $1000s ?> $10,000s ?

    when will it be available?

    How advanced must your symptoms be to qualify? I guess BigInsurance will decide.
    Clinical evidence. No longer just anecdotal. Remdesivir has shown some efficacy (although it many not seem like much) and from this point going forward science medicine can build off this new therapy.

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    Life won't return to normal until people are no longer afraid to be in close proximity to one another. Social distancing won't do that. You need medicine - whether a proven treatment like remdesivir or a vaccine. Hopefully, we'll look back on today as the first day we turned the corner and progressed back toward normalcy.

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    Life won't return to normal until people are no longer afraid to be in close proximity to one another. Social distancing won't do that. You need medicine - whether a proven treatment like remdesivir or a vaccine. Hopefully, we'll look back on today as the first day we turned the corner and progressed back toward normalcy.
    yep, even if remdesivir is a treatment for severely ill victims, who wants to risk getting that sick to get treated?

    UK and Switzerland say they should have vaccines to test 5 or 6 months. China is working on vaccines also.

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    yep, even if remdesivir is a treatment for severely ill victims, who wants to risk getting that sick to get treated?

    UK and Switzerland say they should have vaccines to test 5 or 6 months. China is working on vaccines also.
    Agreed. As a purely psychological matter, while no one wants to get sick, people will still pack bars + theatres + stadiums knowing that there's some sort of medicinal therapy.

    While I read the same NYT article you allude to, I've heard that those timetables are excessively optimistic. Full disclosure: this is third-hand hearsay, but some of the doctors here in the TMC have said that you should expect a vaccine in 36-60 months, which would be an accelerated timetable from the average span of 10 years it takes to develop a vaccine for viruses (they credited the fact that everyone is working together to develop a vaccine). Having a proven tail of drugs is going to be key in tiding us over until we develop vaccines.

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    As states prepare to reopen, those that never really shut down are already seeing a e in cases

    Cases in Nebraska have doubled in a week, and it’s not the only state showing this kind of e.

    Iowa has a similar problem. barely conducted any testing before mid-March, and when those tests were 10%-20% positive, Republican Gov. Kim Reynolds apparently took this as permission to continue snoozing.

    This resulted in darkly amusing situations like the one on March 26 where Iowa conducted just 34 tests. All positive. This is not exactly the best indicator that everything is under control.

    Iowa isn’t testing at a rate sufficient to describe the outbreak that already exists, much less get ahead of it and halt it short of disaster.

    Arizona has tested at barely half the national average. , Republican Gov. Doug Ducey did order a fairly comprehensive shutdown—which expires on April 30. Which means that Arizona is about to get an answer to whether it has tested sufficiently to support relaxing those guidelines. (It hasn’t.)

    , there is a state under a Democratic governor that’s testing at a genuinely shocking rate. Under Gov. Jay Inslee, Washington state conducted only 37 tests on Monday and fewer than 700 over the last three days.

    But then, the rate of positives on those tests was 0%. the state has uncovered 1,100 new cases while carrying out 21,000 new tests, and that 5% positive rate is still way too high.

    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/4/28/1941079/-As-states-prepare-to-reopen-those-that-never-really-shut-down-are-already-seeing-a- e-in-cases?detail=emaildkre



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    For anyone interested the final version on the China study of Remdesivir, original deemed to not show efficacy, was released in Lancet, a medical journal.

    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...022-9/fulltext

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    Nice UK article about models for some reopening scenarios.

    I'd be happy to see any models that don't predict 12,000 deaths for Texas tbh. Please post them.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...00-deaths.html


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    Nice UK article about models for some reopening scenarios.

    I'd be happy to see any models that don't predict 12,000 deaths for Texas tbh. Please post them.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...00-deaths.html



    Lets test the model

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    Let's test the model
    You don't have any others?

    Nothing from the governor?

    Bill Miler BBQ?

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    Those arent even real nurses

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    You don't have any others?

    Nothing from the governor?

    Bill Miler BBQ?


    Are you still safe at Wendy's drive thru, Karen?

    I'm assuming you're in a good situation, since you're able to screech here 24/7.

    Ever think about people that don't have it as good as you?

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    Are you still safe at Wendy's drive thru, Karen?

    I'm assuming you're in a good situation, since you're able to screech here 24/7.

    Ever think about people that don't have it as good as you?
    Put a tampon in it and answer the question.

    Do you have any models that don't project 17x the deaths we currently have?

    Yes or no.

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    down here cases are from ships and some turd overseas coming back transmitted to someone who is a essential worker came into contact, who then works in age/health care facility and spreading it to the elderly cause they cant afford to stay at home due to be being bread winner of household....

    then u have clowns who wont show symptoms but will after 2weeks, but been spreading it when they shown no symptoms...

    down here 14 nurses from same hospital had to stay at home causey did emergency surgery on someone who showed no signs, only later to show signs, and those 14 nurses ended up getting the covit...

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    Are you still safe at Wendy's drive thru, Karen?

    I'm assuming you're in a good situation, since you're able to screech here 24/7.

    Ever think about people that don't have it as good as you?
    He's got it tough. He's got "immunocompromised people here". That's why he only risks going out for the essentials like hamburgers.

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    Put a tampon in it and answer the question.

    Do you have any models that don't project 17x the deaths we currently have?

    Yes or no.

    We can compare the model you posted to reality and judge it then.

    You are the one who posted a model. Let's see how accurate it is.

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    He's got it tough. He's got "immunocompromised people here". That's why he only risks going out for the essentials like hamburgers.
    Sorry Trump is a failure.

    Do you have any models to post?

    Yes or no.
    We can compare the model you posted to reality and judge it then.

    You are the one who posted a model. Let's see how accurate it is.
    Sorry Trump is a failure.

    Do you have any models to post?

    Yes or no.

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    It's maybe necessarily simplistic, but you can pull up some grim ing scenarios.

    https://www.covid19sim.org/

    I just want to know the Greg Abbott/Bill Miller model. Is that asking too much?

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    Sorry Trump is a failure.

    Do you have any models to post?

    Yes or no.
    Sorry Trump is a failure.

    Do you have any models to post?

    Yes or no.
    ^

    Lol, Karen is melting down

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