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    Coercive pleading is a thing. Kinda normal in the criminal justice.

    Few people when it happens to a poor person or a non-famous person or a person not of their political tribe.
    If he was coerced the second time, hat tip to the gubmit lawyers.

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    If he was coerced the second time, hat tip to the gubmit lawyers.

    no one on the trump team criminal enterprise is ever ever responsible or accountable for any crime they commit

    it is always someone elses fault, someone elses responsibility and there is always some nefarious activity with anyone remotely involved in prosecuting them

    just the same as any guilty criminal in any prison in the country

    dindunuffin!
    wasnt me!
    no witnesses!
    you cant prove it!
    lawyer screwed me/lied/framed me!



    no difference- all criminals lie thru their teeth even when caught red handed -

    they just are not capable of coming clean

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    the last time you got this excited....



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    Lol

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    The new press secretary pleaded not to lie and then after switching the subject on reporters concerning Flynn, she promptly lied. Took her all of 15 minutes.

    This administration is a disease.

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    The new press secretary pleaded not to lie and then after switching the subject on reporters concerning Flynn, she promptly lied. Took her all of 15 minutes.

    This administration is a disease.

    yup

    i started watching and thought to myself...

    ”i am going to have an open mind...maybe her fox news appearances were just scripted theater”


    and then her lips started moving...

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    Coercive pleading is a thing. Kinda normal in the criminal justice.

    Few people when it happens to a poor person or a non-famous person or a person not of their political tribe.
    DA tactics against those with poor or no representation, ie the poor and non famous, is decried all the time in the news and popular culture. The railroaded pauper is a familiar trope.

    Flynn on the other hand had excellent representation and wasn't hoodwinked into making a deal. Sure the government likely leveraged a plea with what charges they could file but he wouldn't have taken it had he thought he could beat the greater charge they were threatening.

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    DA tactics against those with poor or no representation, ie the poor and non famous, is decried all the time in the news and popular culture. The railroaded pauper is a familiar trope.

    Flynn on the other hand had excellent representation and wasn't hoodwinked into making a deal. Sure the government likely leveraged a plea with what charges they could file but he wouldn't have taken it had he thought he could beat the greater charge they were threatening.
    excellent representation

    You obviously weren’t aware of Covington ing up Flynn’s FARA filing



    “Mr. Flynn’s guilty plea (and later failure to withdraw it) was the result of the ineffective assistance of counsel provided by his former lawyers, who were in the grip of intractable conflicts of interest, and severely prejudiced him,” Flynn’s current lead counsel, Sidney Powell, and her colleagues wrote in the 49-page motion filed on Wednesday afternoon. “That pernicious conflict infected and prejudiced his defense until he retained new counsel in 2019.”

    https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/...92.160.2_2.pdf

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    excellent representation

    You obviously weren’t aware of Covington ing up Flynn’s FARA filing



    “Mr. Flynn’s guilty plea (and later failure to withdraw it) was the result of the ineffective assistance of counsel provided by his former lawyers, who were in the grip of intractable conflicts of interest, and severely prejudiced him,” Flynn’s current lead counsel, Sidney Powell, and her colleagues wrote in the 49-page motion filed on Wednesday afternoon. “That pernicious conflict infected and prejudiced his defense until he retained new counsel in 2019.”

    https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/...92.160.2_2.pdf
    So his lawyers f upd and he got new ones?
    How was he able to afford NEW dc aquainted lawyers?
    How?

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    So his lawyers f upd and he got new ones?
    How was he able to afford NEW dc aquainted lawyers?
    How?

    someone elses fault

    not flynn lying, not flynn working for turkey or colluding with russia

    not flynn pleading guilty after being educated in all things- american judicial system-


    just “corrupt” lawyers with “conflicts of interest”

    great russian defense playbook!

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    excellent representation

    You obviously weren’t aware of Covington ing up Flynn’s FARA filing



    “Mr. Flynn’s guilty plea (and later failure to withdraw it) was the result of the ineffective assistance of counsel provided by his former lawyers, who were in the grip of intractable conflicts of interest, and severely prejudiced him,” Flynn’s current lead counsel, Sidney Powell, and her colleagues wrote in the 49-page motion filed on Wednesday afternoon. “That pernicious conflict infected and prejudiced his defense until he retained new counsel in 2019.”

    https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/...92.160.2_2.pdf
    In your own words describe what a FARA filing is and how in this particular case it impacted Flynn. Nevermind you are citing Flynn's counsel here. I see you are still dullard, reactionary, google bot.

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    Fun fact: both Flynn and TSA - supported and shared misinformation on Pizzagate

    lol

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    Did Flynn think that we could inject bleach to cure the 'rona? Asking for a friend.
    Yours or your wifes?

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    excellent representation

    You obviously weren’t aware of Covington ing up Flynn’s FARA filing
    So who's fault is it that he picked ty lawyers? Being unhappy with your counsel is not a defense.

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    So who's fault is it that he picked ty lawyers? Being unhappy with your counsel is not a defense.

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    CHAAAARGE!

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    In your own words describe what a FARA filing is and how in this particular case it impacted Flynn. Nevermind you are citing Flynn's counsel here. I see you are still dullard, reactionary, google bot.
    You’re not worth the time to have to hold your hand and walk you through all of it. You just claimed Flynn had excellent representation without knowing he fired his team of lawyers for the exact opposite of excellent representation, along with a massive conflict of interest. If you want to read up on it more before interjecting out of the blue years after the fact we can discuss further.

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    So who's fault is it that he picked ty lawyers? Being unhappy with your counsel is not a defense.
    And if you’re counsel is representing you in two separate cases and tells you to plead guilty in one case so their firm is not drug through the dirt in the other case?

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    CHAAAARGE!
    Death penalty for what?

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    Death penalty for what?
    treason dummy

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    Explain legally how it's treason. "Muh feellings" isn't a legal argument.

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    Explain legally how it's treason. "Muh feellings" isn't a legal argument.
    look it up dummy

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    look it up dummy
    I can't look up your legal reasoning. I have to ask you for it.

    If you can't explain what treason was committed, just say so.

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