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    The authoritarian leftists praising their blueprint country for authoritarian decisions. I'm shocked.

    "We just want common sense gun control."

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    This is a what you do!!

    Canada >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>America
    Prove it move your ass there
    Live in there
    They flock to Yuma all the time though
    They love the az gun laws

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    That's exactly what colonial Americans did under British rule. They ed and ed and then finally took action. Did they migrate to Mexico or South America? Nope.

    The Bird argument is also a strawman. No one is saying the US " in sucks." They're saying there's room for improvement. Your bird example also fails because birds don't have the luxury of changing their environment to the extent modern humans do. We can make our environment better vs. always having to migrate to a better environment.
    Did they migrate? The colonists? Many moved west and settled the land. People who didn't like their situations spent a lot of time and effort to get to this country to help build and settle it.

    The bird example was like "it's not about the nail".

    It's conventional wisdom, if you don't like your situation, change it.

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    nobody needs an AR15

    only inbred gots would disagree

    still. the canucks and that massive got Tru
    They work good killing coyotes saving your cows !

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    It's embarrassing how other countries are leaving us behind from everything to healthcare to education to gun rights to Coronavirus response. And it didn't start with the Orange Man, either. I attribute the US's decline to some key factors that politicians and thinkers of yesteryear feared might be in America's future if we don't remain vigilant.



    Came true.



    Came true.



    Came true.

    And going real old school:



    Jefferson basically described the modern stock market almost 200 years ago and how big corporations and investment bankers privatize the profit and socialize the losses.

    Orange Man is simply a symptom of the disease caused by those aforementioned fundamental shifts that have occurred in the US over the past 40-50 years.
    Yeah, restricting rights is how you lap the compe ion.

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    The authoritarian leftists praising their blueprint country for authoritarian decisions. I'm shocked.

    "We just want common sense gun control."
    What's the common sense reasoning for owning an AR-15?

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    Prove it move your ass there
    Live in there
    They flock to Yuma all the time though
    They love the az gun laws
    I think he's saying he already lives in that hole known as Toronto.

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    The American leftist has 30 countries they like more than America and wants impose their will others. They are selfish authoritarians. That's just the reality.

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    Did they migrate? The colonists? Many moved west and settled the land. People who didn't like their situations spent a lot of time and effort to get to this country to help build and settle it.

    The bird example was like "it's not about the nail".

    It's conventional wisdom, if you don't like your situation, change it.
    Dmc trying to subtly move his original goalpost of "love it or leave it" to "change it"

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    It's embarrassing how other countries are leaving us behind from everything to healthcare to education to gun rights to Coronavirus response. And it didn't start with the Orange Man, either. I attribute the US's decline to some key factors that politicians and thinkers of yesteryear feared might be in America's future if we don't remain vigilant.
    True, but other countries have other problems. And frankly, the US is not beyond repair at this stage.

    If some of you who pine for other countries would just up and move there, this country would be a better place to live. You won't though. We've seen that act before. As soon as a dem takes office it will be roses.
    I've lived half my life in other countries, tbh. I'll gladly move if I wasn't tied up with family on the wife side at this point. Plenty of great places to live out there, if you can afford it and/or have the necessary papers.

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    They work good killing coyotes saving your cows !
    Are there any other reasons for needing an AR-15 or is that it?

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    The authoritarian leftists praising their blueprint country for authoritarian decisions. I'm shocked.

    "We just want common sense gun control."
    Canada is fortunate not to have a 2nd Amendment.

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    Are there any other reasons for needing an AR-15 or is that it?
    Great for taking on tyrants. That's what I'd want them for.

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    Yeah, restricting rights is how you lap the compe ion.
    There's no 'right' to weapons in Canada.

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    Did they migrate? The colonists? Many moved west and settled the land. People who didn't like their situations spent a lot of time and effort to get to this country to help build and settle it.

    The bird example was like "it's not about the nail".

    It's conventional wisdom, if you don't like your situation, change it.
    And those settlers didn't like their situation under English rule for the following 100 years. Did they migrate to somewhere else? No. They threw tea in a harbor and took up arms.

    It's conventional wisdom, if you don't like your situation, change it.
    Um, that's what I'm suggesting.

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    and lol @ the right talking about authoritarians in other countries... the party of the Patriot Act, the Mulford Act, 'enemy combatants' including Americans, etc.

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    True, but other countries have other problems. And frankly, the US is not beyond repair at this stage.



    I've lived half my life in other countries, tbh. I'll gladly move if I wasn't tied up with family on the wife side at this point. Plenty of great places to live out there, if you can afford it and/or have the necessary papers.
    ^This is what I am saying. Move to where you fit.

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    and lol @ the right talking about authoritarians in other countries... the party of the Patriot Act, the Mulford Act, 'enemy combatants' including Americans, etc.
    None of that is decided by a single person.

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    None of that is decided by a single person.
    I can give similar examples created by EO... ie: the massive NSA wiretap order (that eventually was cleaned up into law once the fake news NYT brought it to light)

    However, pointing out these things are specific to the left or right is inane.

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    ^This is what I am saying. Move to where you fit.
    And let's not pretend that if you're at a certain stage in life, you get pickier too... no ty weather, etc.

    Outside of the political show, the US is a big country, has a lot of options.

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    Yeah, restricting rights is how you lap the compe ion.
    Lol, your rights per the second amendment are restricted and you don't even know it. Can you privately own a stealth bomber? An F35 fighter? A nuclear weapon? The "2nd amendment" is a farce. It throws you a few scraps in the form of letting you own small arms for personal defense that won't do against a "tyrannical government" if they decided to act against you. "Yeah, but see, owning a stealth bomber is just nonsensical." Why? A stealth bomber would allow you to protect yourself a of a lot better against "tyranny" than a semi-automatic rifle. Point is, there 2nd amendment isn't actually consistently applied. Its original intention was to balance the firepower between citizens and government, so the latter couldn't impose tyranny. Citizens had the same weapons as the government.

    Is that the case today? No.

    But I don't want the 2nd amendment banned. I'm a believer in citizens having small arms for personal protection. But we need to get off this dumb idea that the 2nd amendment exists in the modern age as allowing citizens to arm themselves against a potential tyrannical government. And I don't think AR-15s should be banned, but they should be a of a lot harder to get. 19 year olds shouldn't just to be able to cruise into a Turners and pick one up.

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    Are there any other reasons for needing an AR-15 or is that it?
    There are plenty of things we have that we don't need.

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    Are there any other reasons for needing an AR-15 or is that it?
    No need for health insurance costing you thousands
    If you have none they do not make you pay
    Just ask the illegals

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    Blake needs no electronics
    People lived without them

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