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    Shaq was a 90s rim protector. You are helping OPs argument
    THe play I'm referring to was happening on the perimeter, Best should have beaten him

    So I'm not helping his argument at all

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    Shaq was a 90s rim protector. You are helping OPs argument

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    Travis Best in this era of zero rim protection = 20ppg 8apg and 10 NBA all star
    Shaq was a 90s rim protector. You are helping OPs argument
    you both literally get stupider by the day

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    Rodman looks good. Same with Jud
    How does it make Phil look? Uninvolved hippie on the sidelines as Jordan runs the show? Or genuis who carefully managed monster egos?

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    you both literally get stupider by the day
    Hey Neo. Sounds as though you are having another pleasant day

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    you both literally get stupider by the day

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    Hey Neo. Sounds as though you are having another pleasant day
    as must you, to be so absent minded to not understand that travis best had such little skill that he couldnt beat shaq in a one-on-one situation for a bucket, yet you think he would actually be a better player in the modern game where guards who can't beat a slow lumbering big man are pretty much phased out of PT on any decent team

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    as must you, to be so absent minded to not understand that travis best had such little skill that he couldnt beat shaq in a one-on-one situation for a bucket, yet you think he would actually be a better player in the modern game where guards who can't beat a slow lumbering big man are pretty much phased out of PT on any decent team
    Doubt Travis would be any worse than Trae Young, whom is an All Star in today's game

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    as must you, to be so absent minded to not understand that travis best had such little skill that he couldnt beat shaq in a one-on-one situation for a bucket, yet you think he would actually be a better player in the modern game where guards who can't beat a slow lumbering big man are pretty much phased out of PT on any decent team
    So the most dominant and athletic center in NBA history is now a slow lumbering big man I've heard it all now

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    Doubt Travis would be any worse than Trae Young, whom is an All Star in today's game
    trae young would average 60 in mikes day

    So the most dominant and athletic center in NBA history is now a slow lumbering big man I've heard it all now
    yes, being offensively dominant has so much to do with your on-ball defense on a point guard. your brilliance overwhelms me

    he was not the most athletic center in nba history, and by around 2000 he picked up a lot of weight and was nowhere nearly as mobile as he was earlier in his career

    although that was irrelevant at this point. the fact that you stood by frosts post that shaq was a 90s rim protector having anything whatsoever to do with his ability to guard on the perimeter shows how re ed you actually are

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    trae young would average 60 in mikes day



    yes, being offensively dominant has so much to do with your on-ball defense on a point guard. your brilliance overwhelms me

    he was not the most athletic center in nba history, and by around 2000 he picked up a lot of weight and was nowhere nearly as mobile as he was earlier in his career

    although that was irrelevant at this point. the fact that you stood by frosts post that shaq was a 90s rim protector having anything whatsoever to do with his ability to guard on the perimeter shows how re ed you actually are
    You're the wise guy claiming MVP Shaq, best shape of his life was a lumbering oaf yeah, you're right, he was no more athletic than Mark Eaton right? Seriously, in 2000 he could collapse inside and stop many people. You probably don't remember this cause you are so in love with today's centers, you know 6'3 PJ Tucker and Draymond. Such impressive wingspans there. How do today's player's possibly score on those guys

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    trae young would average 60 in
    beyond ridiculous. He's not even Mahmoud Abdul Rauf quality. Now you're just trolling
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    You're the wise guy claiming MVP Shaq, best shape of his life
    completely untrue

    was a lumbering oaf yeah
    didnt say that at all but i supposed i see how you could completely misunderstand the point, considering you completely misunderstood leftys very obvious point

    you're right, he was no more athletic than Mark Eaton right?
    never said anything remotely close to that at all. why so butthurt?

    Seriously, in 2000 he could collapse inside and stop many people.
    many people may include a mediocre player like travis best, but no one elite like CP3 or Steph, who you pretty much compared him two by alleging that he would average 20/8 and 10-allstars in today's league.

    You probably don't remember this cause you are so in love with today's centers, you know 6'3 PJ Tucker and Draymond.
    hm did i ever defend todays centers at any point? man youre seriously butthurt

    Such impressive wingspans there. How do today's player's possibly score on those guys
    probably the same way a guy like mitch richmond was able to do it on 90s centers for years

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    Shaq was most definitely in the best shape of his life. He said so himself...Phil said the same. His defense that year was incredible and he was voted, almost unanimous MVP. He could hang with perimeter players on switches as he was mobile enough to do so. And everyone had hesitations driving on him as they knew they would be sore in the morning. Not sure which Shaq you guys were watching but 2000 version was a damn beast

    Other old school players who could be 20 ppg scorers
    In this inflated stats, Trae Young era:

    Sedale Threatt
    Kenny Smith
    Derrick McKey
    Dan Majerle
    Terry Mills

    Antoine Walker would probably average 30 in this era

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    Shaq was most definitely in the best shape of his life. He said so himself...Phil said the same. His defense that year was incredible and he was voted, almost unanimous MVP. He could hang with perimeter players on switches as he was mobile enough to do so. And everyone had hesitations driving on him as they knew they would be sore in the morning. Not sure which Shaq you guys were watching but 2000 version was a damn beast

    Other old school players who could be 20 ppg scorers
    In this inflated stats, Trae Young era:

    Sedale Threatt
    Kenny Smith
    Derrick McKey
    Dan Majerle
    Terry Mills

    Antoine Walker would probably average 30 in this era
    jj barea would average 35 in the 80s. dude took elbows to the ribs and clotheslines to the face. big men? pfft nothing.

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    Shaq was most definitely in the best shape of his life. He said so himself...Phil said the same. His defense that year was incredible and he was voted, almost unanimous MVP. He could hang with perimeter players on switches as he was mobile enough to do so. And everyone had hesitations driving on him as they knew they would be sore in the morning. Not sure which Shaq you guys were watching but 2000 version was a damn beast

    Other old school players who could be 20 ppg scorers
    In this inflated stats, Trae Young era:

    Sedale Threatt
    Kenny Smith
    Derrick McKey
    Dan Majerle
    Terry Mills

    Antoine Walker would probably average 30 in this era
    Glen Rice would be a 30 point scorer in this era.

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    Toni Kukoc after Episode 9 will also look really good in this series.

    If you notice in the clips, he's taking tip off for Chicago

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    Episodes 7 & 8

    Pippen confused everyone with his - it was the wrong decision but I would do it again response to the 94 Playoff game

    Baseball, ya without the MLB Strike MJ probably doesn't return til 1996 and isn't as dominant. I do believe MJ would have cracked the White Sox pro team.

    Felt they did a quality job covering his fathers murder. But it was finished a little hazy? The warping allows the story to touch on uncomfortable topics and transition.


    Michael's emotional defense to the price of winning. This is sport. Reminded me of an Olympian that competes for love of nation/blood. Most emotional episode.
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    Glen Rice would be a 30 point scorer in this era.
    Easily...

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    Damn, I miss the NBA on NBC. Their whole presentation was A++++


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    Pippen confused everyone with his - it was the wrong decision but I would do it again response to the 94 Playoff game
    I don't think Pippen understood the significance of the docuseries. This was an opportunity to repair his image and he squandered it.

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    I don't think Pippen understood the significance of the docuseries. This was an opportunity to repair his image and he squandered it.
    Yes. He seems taken back by the questions. I bet all the Krause content made him s up. He looks stiff and slow. Shoulda poured a drink and chatted on his living eulogy

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    by the way, that “way to go Craig (Sager)” in the opening of episode 7

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    MJ is clearly salty that Horace talked. Yes they carried him off and I also always wondered why

    Unlike Pippen, Horace was strictly a product of Jordan's Bulls. Grant was 1 tier above Luc Longley
    Come on man. Horace Grant was a solid defender, rebounder, and can shoot from midrange well. He can finish somewhat around the basket, had decent hands. He was a decent passer as well. he had a decent run in Orlando as well.

    He's like a more athletic, less physical/crazy Charles Oakley.

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