SCOTUS To Hear Arguments Re: Trumps Financial Records

[pgardn]

Abe Lincoln went bankrupt twice---getting away with pennies on the dollar.

Oh yes, bankruptcy was exactly the same thing at that time...

[Reck]

disagree

knowing the disgusting state of affairs

this will just result in more delays til after november

cant see that his financials will be released before then


and that is basically trumps plan

key moments from the oral arguments:

Kavanaugh asked: “The question … boils down to how can we both protect the House’s interest in obtaining information it needs to legislate but also protect the presidency. How can the court balance those interests?”

Gorsuch questioned why the court would give Trump immunity in a criminal investigation when it did not give Clinton immunity in a sexual harassment lawsuit. In the 1997 case, lawyers for the plaintiff wanted Clinton to be questioned, Gorsuch noted, while in the Trump case the information is sought from third parties.

Gorsuch in particular brought that point up multiple times. How does Trump's team reconcile the fact Clinton had to produce the goods to congress but Trump should get a pass and why?

[pgardn]

I found the arguments to be very interesting.

I like how the judges can actually guide the lawyers they can control to remake a point so it makes more legal and precedence sense.
The trump judges and lawyer kept making that 2023 judges in NY with the ability to file a suit (harass) after it was pretty much shot down.
They kept hammering that 2000 number anyway. Almost choreographed.

I thought both sides, once the judges whittled it down, made pretty good arguments.
Clarence Thomas actually asked questions? I guess he knew he was more transparent than on mere press reports so he decided to talk.

[pgardn]

key moments from the oral arguments:





Gorsuch in particular brought that point up multiple times. How does Trump's team reconcile the fact Clinton had to produce the goods to congress but Trump should get a pass and why?

I thought they answered that quite clearly, Trump's current problems are not criminal. So dont compare them.
What am I missing?

[Spurs Homer]

key moments from the oral arguments:





Gorsuch in particular brought that point up multiple times. How does Trump's team reconcile the fact Clinton had to produce the goods to congress but Trump should get a pass and why?

breyer hit that point even more forcefully -comparing nixon releasing tapes- which were administration workings compared to the weaker trump case (private citizens trumps taxes)

but still- the main preoccupation of scotus seemed to be disproportionally protecting the president and how a presidency would be given “undue burden” by political attacks


they went on and on about protecting the presidency


i think - at best- they kick the cases back down to the lower courts for fine tuning

which of course= month or years

[picnroll]

I thought they answered that quite clearly, Trump's current problems are not criminal. So dont compare them.
What am I missing?

Not a lawyer but didn’t Trump’s lawyer Michael Cohen allege he committed crimes involving his tax return? How does that differ from alleged crimes Clinton committed and were being investigated?

[pgardn]

Not a lawyer but didn’t Trump’s lawyer Michael Cohen allege he committed crimes involving his tax return? How does that differ from alleged crimes Clinton committed and were being investigated?

All that is being asked for is access to his tax returns by NY state.
And Im not a lawyer either so we may have to wait for vy or 21

[picnroll]

All that is being asked for is access to his tax returns by NY state.
And Im not a lawyer either so we may have to wait for vy or 21

Pretty sure the NY case is related to a criminal investigation, one concern being that the statute of limitations is expiring. Again no lawyer.

[leemajors]

Abe Lincoln went bankrupt twice---getting away with pennies on the dollar.

He wasn't mobbed up, though!

[pgardn]

Pretty sure the NY case is related to a criminal investigation, one concern being that the statute of limitations is expiring. Again no lawyer.

I got a different impression. Hopefully one of the two lawyers listened in.
The Nixon tapes, which this was compared to, involved just handing over information (the tapes) as well, it had not gone criminal yet.
well I defer, we will see.

Anyways, interesting for the non legal types (me) anyways.

[ducks]

Supreme Court questions limits of congressional subpoena power, presidential immunity in Trump tax return cases


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/sup...er-trump-taxes