Noam Chomsky: “Trump has killed thousands of americans”

[DMC]

Why does there need to be an acceptable range.

Justify your demand.

I already did. Catch up

[DMC]

Kind of hard to argue against what you say if you never really say anything, No-take McGurk very studiously never has a take to be criticized.

So fragile.

But I wasn't talking to you, got. I wouldn't expect you to offer anything of your own that makes anyone think anyhow.

[DMC]

Then we can assume you have lied.

You use a different name.
Go ahead. Put up or shut up.
I helped figure out the finer points of the ELISA assay.
Look it up. Its quite important, just like you and your self importance.

So you were around in the early 70's working on the ELISA assay?

What do you mean "finer points"?

I don't care if you believe me. I'm not the one fixated on it.

[clambake]

So salty

You must be fatter than we think

[RandomGuy]

This is one of the dumber arguments I’ve had in a while, so props on that.

Your premise is that because some number of deaths were inevitable, there must be a line drawn between an acceptable number of inevitable death and an unacceptable number. You think that line is arbitrarily drawn along political lines. You think that because this is the first time round, we can’t fault DJT for those deaths, particularly when we’re under said arbitrary line.

That’s about as inhumane as it gets — and — is a pretty weak mea culpa offered you on behalf of dear leader. Mine, and others, point is that the administration should be help responsible for each and every death because that’s the nature of that offices responsibility to the country. You don’t see it that way because you’re willing to offer some arbitrary number of lives up as a kind of “cost of doing business.” Because you love your daddy trump

Put it in a hierarchical framework where some people are worth more than others. equality is meaningless as long as there is an elite ruling class and everybody else.

The masses that have to die to maintain the hierarchy are meaningless. Republicans want to maintain the finances of their donor class, and that is pretty much their only consideration, and admittedly so. Grandma must die so they can re-elect Trump and presumably cling to power.

If we had taken the 6 weeks pissed away by Trump after the initial travel restrictions to ramp up testing and put together contact tracing teams, we would have severely limited the spread of the disease. Test, swoop in, contact trace, and isolate. That is no magic bullet but would have offered the best shot at limiting the spread of the disease and its follow up. That is what Trump is responsible for.

Here is one for you:

Let's assume that there is absolutely no difference in the inevitable deaths. Everyone that would have been infected and damaged and killed would have eventually been damaged and killed anyway.

By simply slowing down the spread over the course of a year or two, you would have allowed hundreds of thousands to a million people an extra year or two of life.

Bungling and letting it spread faster caused all the economic damage sooner.

Kind of obviates any consideration of a range, donnit?

[RandomGuy]

[personal attack]

[boredom]

[DMC]

You've been running with the "hurr durr ur fat" shtick. Put some money on your take. I'll bet you 5K I am under 200lbs.

Of course you'll do the "got to you" defense or some other escape act. Never fails.

I offered this to you before and you balked. Back up your talk.

So salty

You must be fatter than we think

When someone starts using "we" instead of "I", you know they've waved the surrender flag.

[RandomGuy]

I don't recall threads about Cuomo bungling the response.

After his initial delay, he pretty much has done everything right, AFIAK. Feel free to have a take on what exactly he has been bungling.

You accidentally had a take there. Let's see if you can back it up. Now, give me a strawman and personal attack while avoiding responsibility for supporting your accidental take.

[DMC]

Put it in a hierarchical framework where some people are worth more than others. equality is meaningless as long as there is an elite ruling class and everybody else.

The masses that have to die to maintain the hierarchy are meaningless.

Wordy, meaningless value statement using a weak psychology 101 level attempt.

Republicans want to maintain the finances of their donor class, and that is pretty much their only consideration, and admittedly so. Grandma must die so they can re-elect Trump and presumably cling to power.

Non sequitur conclusion from the prior fluffy statement from the group who coined the derogatory meme "boomer".

If we had taken the 6 weeks pissed away by Trump after the initial travel restrictions to ramp up testing and put together contact tracing teams, we would have severely limited the spread of the disease. Test, swoop in, contact trace, and isolate. That is no magic bullet but would have offered the best shot at limiting the spread of the disease and its follow up. That is what Trump is responsible for.

More know-it-all blather from the likely unemployed home dad who obviously wants society averaged so he can rise above his current level. (face it, few who are above average want to voluntarily lower themselves to elevate others. It's usually those who are below average that want to be boosted and use the guise of "fairness" to gain at the expense of others).

Here is one for you:

Let's assume that there is absolutely no difference in the inevitable deaths. Everyone that would have been infected and damaged and killed would have eventually been damaged and killed anyway.

By simply slowing down the spread over the course of a year or two, you would have allowed hundreds of thousands to a million people an extra year or two of life.

Creating a narrative that never even existed here and setting out to debunk it.

Bungling and letting it spread faster caused all the economic damage sooner.

Kind of obviates any consideration of a range, donnit?

Now it's about economic damage. Talks about all the deaths, concludes with economic damage.

Stick with your big font and regurgitated rag articles.

[DMC]

After his initial delay, he pretty much has done everything right, AFIAK. Feel free to have a take on what exactly he has been bungling.

You accidentally had a take there. Let's see if you can back it up. Now, give me a strawman and personal attack while avoiding responsibility for supporting your accidental take.

So after setting 30K+ up to die, he's done great.

Other than that one event at the Walmart, that shooter did great AFAIK.

[clambake]

When someone starts using "we" instead of "I", you know they've waved the surrender flag.

Yeah because they too are witnesses, pork belly

[DMC]

Yeah because they too are witnesses, pork belly

I challenged you to back your talk with a bet and you pulled the "we" card as if it's everyone's take.

I'll bet whomever wants to bet but I made you the offer specifically. I get it that you're not secure in your take, perhaps in your finances either.

[clambake]

Just stop trying to send pics, please

[RandomGuy]

Now, give me a strawman and personal attack while avoiding responsibility for supporting your accidental take.

So after setting 30K+ up to die, he's done great.

Other than that one event at the Walmart, that shooter did great AFAIK.

That is just two out of three instructions. You have avoided supporting your take, and provided a strawman, but I don't see a personal attack there.

Where is the personal attack?

You were not instructed to leave that out. One strawman does not relieve you of my instructions for a strawman and a personal attack. Get on it, chop chop.


[edit] to be fair, you did get in the personal attack in the next post, as instructed. Good boy. /edit

[RandomGuy]

Wordy, meaningless value statement using a weak psychology 101 level attempt.

Non sequitur conclusion from the prior fluffy statement from the group who coined the derogatory meme "boomer".

ooh hand-wavy dismissals. I'm crushed. Don't strain yourself.

[RandomGuy]

[randomguys' position that conservatives view society as a pyramid and heirarchy with elites that should be ruling over everybody else is wrong]

More know-it-all blather from the likely unemployed home dad who obviously wants society averaged so he can rise above his current level. (face it, few who are above average want to voluntarily lower themselves to elevate others. It's usually those who are below average that want to be boosted and use the guise of "fairness" to gain at the expense of others).

Says I am wrong, then proves me right about his viewpoint in his next sentence.

Wow that was some obliviousness. You topped yourself there.

[pgardn]

So you were around in the early 70's working on the ELISA assay?

What do you mean "finer points"?

I don't care if you believe me. I'm not the one fixated on it.

Its progressed since then dumbass.
You think its still done by hand by all labs?
Yeah, the car has not changed at all since the early 1900s...
The idea is the same, the procedures, machines and reagents are not.

Again you show your lack of knowledge.
Science head hunter... my ass.

What was the name of your Time article liar?

[DMC]

Its progressed since then dumbass.
You think its still done by hand by all labs?
Yeah, the car has not changed at all since the early 1900s...
The idea is the same, the procedures, machines and reagents are not.

Again you show your lack of knowledge.
Science head hunter... my ass.

What was the name of your Time article liar?

What finer points did you develop?

[DMC]

Just stop trying to send pics, please

So no bet?

If 5K is out of your price range, how about 500?

[clambake]

So no bet?

If 5K is out of your price range, how about 500?

Are you officially out of the closet, jaba?

[pgardn]

What finer points did you develop?

WE

And you could not possibly understand nature v. nurture boy.
If you are ready to do some reading, I might get you to scratch the surface.

What did your time magazine article concern Mr. Buckley?

This could be fun...

[DMC]

Then we can assume you have lied.

You use a different name.
Go ahead. Put up or shut up.
I helped figure out the finer points of the ELISA assay.
Look it up. Its quite important, just like you and your self importance.

WE

And you could not possibly understand nature v. nurture boy.
If you are ready to do some reading, I might get you to scratch the surface.

What did your time magazine article concern Mr. Buckley?

This could be fun...

holy you really do have little man syndrome

[DMC]

Are you officially out of the closet, jaba?

Let me know when you get the money.

[clambake]

Let me know when you get the money.

Stop trying to sends men pics, pork belly

[DMC]

Stop trying to sends men pics, pork belly

neutered