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    But yeah, Chicago was better than Utah both those Final years.
    No.

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    Standard Jordan fanboy myth narrative.

    Ron Harper averaged 19 ppg the season before ring chasing in Chicago.
    He came to Chicago when Jordan was whiffing at curveballs. So plenty of scoring opportunities that year. How did he do in 94-95? I'll wait.

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    96 Rodman>>>>>98 Rodman which is what I referenced

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    https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...-chicago-bulls

    Once again Pippen was more a 1b than a 2.

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    Pacers would have defeated the Jazz in 1998. But would have been a of a series
    Last edited by FrostKing; 05-16-2020 at 12:17 PM.

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    That Pacer team never gets talked about it. They were highly underrated.

    Pacers would have defeated the Jazz in 1998. But would have been a of a series

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    I don't think it's a coincidence he picks DWade, a final's MVP, to team up with and attempt to win his first. Notice he didn't even give Chicago and D-rose a serious look in FA as they were not proven winners.

    I'm trying to picture Jordan bailing on the Bulls after losing to the Pistons again in 89-90....subsequently teaming up with the Pistons or Celtics to learn how to win and be mentored by a winner. I just can't wrap my brain around that because he was such an alpha-male.
    Great point. Wade was non-negotiable to Lebron.

    I do not think Michael's father would have allowed him to quit on Chicago. Why would MJ anyway, he was already arguably the best player in the League. You don't tuck tail and run

    This is an important part: I think MJ enjoyed beating his rivals (and embarrassing them) more than he did winning and all the social hoopla that comes with that. Lebron is the opposite he loves the media shows and parties that come from winning.

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    96 Rodman>>>>>98 Rodman which is what I referenced
    I know what you referenced. Just 'ing that you think he fell off the cliff.

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    He came to Chicago when Jordan was whiffing at curveballs. So plenty of scoring opportunities that year. How did he do in 94-95? I'll wait.
    He came to Chicago to sacrifice stats and be a role player, not an all star.

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    He was 37 years old in 98 and coming off the bench.

    I know what you referenced. Just 'ing that you think he fell off the cliff.

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    He was 37 years old in 98 and coming off the bench.
    And still pulling down 15 boards a game like a beast.

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    Yeah, if Lebron somehow doesn't win in Miami, which seemed impossible considering it was the most talented team in in the league, would have been interesting to see if he ever even makes the Cleveland return. My guess is he just keeps forming super teams all over the place until he finally gets one.

    Great point. Wade was non-negotiable to Lebron.

    I do not think Michael's father would have allowed him to quit on Chicago. Why would MJ anyway, he was already arguably the best player in the League. You don't tuck tail and run

    This is an important part: I think MJ enjoyed beating his rivals (and embarrassing them) more than he did winning and all the social hoopla that comes with that. Lebron is the opposite he loves the media shows and parties that come from winning.

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    And still pulling down 15 boards a game like a beast.
    Defense fell off in the 2nd half of the season. Not saying he sucked or anything but the dip was noticeable. Spent a lot of time in foul trouble. fouled out of 2 ECF games in 1998 and in foul trouble vs Utah the entire series.

    Also,

    Rebound average in the 1996 finals vs Seattle - 14.4

    Rebound average in the 1998 Finals vs Utah - 8.3

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    Yeah, if Lebron somehow doesn't win in Miami, which seemed impossible considering it was the most talented team in in the league, would have been interesting to see if he ever even makes the Cleveland return. My guess is he just keeps forming super teams all over the place until he finally gets one.
    He's still basically doing that so thats a safe assumption tbh. I mean even when he went back to Cleveland it was never really about Cleveland but just about forming a new super team.

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    Still salty about Jordan's dominance after all these years

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    rodman pistons>rodman bulls>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>rodman spurs = rodman mavs/lakers etc whatever team he played at the end of his career...

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    Had no idea Leonardo DiCaprio was at that game 6.

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    Well...back to watching clips of old games on YouTube now.

    Excellent docuseries. 5 stars.

    Always suspected food poisoning and not the flu. I think the same happened to the Lakers in Sacramento.

    Lebron can take solace now, in knowing that catching Jordan was never even a option for anyone, realistically. He's probably irate after watching this trying to get Pelinka to get him 5 more all stars so he can win a few more and try and wiggle his way back into the conversation
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    Well...back to watching clips of old games on YouTube now.

    Excellent docuseries. 5 stars.

    Always suspected food poisoning and not the flu. I think the same happened to the Lakers in Sacramento.

    Lebron can take solace now, in knowing that catching Jordan was never even a option for anyone, realistically. He's probably irate after watching this trying to get Pelinka to get him 5 more all stars so he can win a few more and try and wiggle his way back into the conversation
    They should have opened a criminal investigation into the food poisoning if that’s really what it was.

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    Rusty was one of Tim Duncan’s teammates at Wake Forest and a rookie on the 1998 Chicago Bulls.


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    Decent doc. I'm gonna miss looking into those baby yellow eyes.

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    at the Utah State A&M Community College Astrology Club

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    They should have opened a criminal investigation into the food poisoning if that’s really what it was.
    Not necessary

    Jordan beat the same pizza delivery boys in both Finals

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    "Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen eliminated the most 60-Win teams in the postseason in NBA History"

    Seven teams

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    Episode 9. I understand this was "Kerr's episode" but not one single clip of Kukoc scoring his 21 points in Game 7? Toni was 1 point short of Reggie for the games 2nd highest scorer

    I also think they should have shown Michael's failed drive in Game 6 with Bob Costa's famous "The Bulls and Pacers are going to the limit!" to even more set the moment. It was shown for a few seconds in the background of a Sportscenter clip

    But there was a-lot packed into this episode.

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