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    If Anyone has ESPN Plus, and looking for something to watch, they put up some classic Bulls games..

    1998 ECF Game 7
    97 Finals Game 6
    98 Finals Game 6
    98 Finals Game 2
    Also some from earlier years like 93 Knicks when MJ scored 54..

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    I mean goddamn. Andre Igoudala won a finals MVP in LeBron’s era.

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    I mean goddamn. Andre Igoudala won a finals MVP in LeBron’s era.


    And in 2013 Danny Green was on the verge winning Finals MVP before Allen bailed out Lebron.

    https://nbaobserver.wordpress.com/20...en-finals-mvp/

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    Yet everybody and they mama got a turn to ring in LeBron’s Era. LeBron locked down the East. I locked down the NBA.
    And there's Delonte West and Lebrons mother ummmm...ok I'll leave that one alone.

    But everyone ate in Lebron's era. Can anyone here imagine Jordan being outscored by Jet Terry in a Finals series?

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    If Anyone has ESPN Plus, and looking for something to watch, they put up some classic Bulls games..

    1998 ECF Game 7
    97 Finals Game 6
    98 Finals Game 6
    98 Finals Game 2
    Also some from earlier years like 93 Knicks when MJ scored 54..
    Is ESPN + normally worth it when we aren't enduring a global pandemic ? Like 5 bucks a month right? Low cost has me thinking it's probably garbage under normal cir stances.

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    Or this


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    this spun trash

    lets go ahead and add bird, magic, dumars, isaiah, mchale, parish, kareem, worthy, dennis johnson, rodman, to MJs list of people who won in his era

    perhaps we could also add shaq, kobe, timmy, robinson to MJs list as well, but he retired prematurely to get worked by them
    Oh but he's the king right? I've been hearing that bull about him since he came into the league. So go ahead "king", take over early. Expectations are high for self proclaimed kings.

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    He got called for an offensive foul there

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    Is ESPN + normally worth it when we aren't enduring a global pandemic ? Like 5 bucks a month right? Low cost has me thinking it's probably garbage under normal cir stances.
    Overall I would say no.. I got it because I watch a lot of UFC, but even then you have to pay for the ESPN PPV content. Some cool extra content is on there in other sports every once in a while..

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    Overall I would say no.. I got it because I watch a lot of UFC, but even then you have to pay for the ESPN PPV content. Some cool extra content is on there in other sports every once in a while..
    I think all those games are available on YouTube. Maybe not all in HD though

    What else is on there?

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    I think all those games are available on YouTube. Maybe not all in HD though

    What else is on there?
    Well this is what they say LOL.. For me I just watch the UFC content really..

    "Thousands of events from MLB, NHL, MLS, Serie A, FA Cup, Top Rank Boxing, and more. Plus, get UFC Fight Nights and PPV events, Grand Slam tennis, and access to your favorite college sports like football, basketball, and lacrosse"

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    Jordan was hung over

    Grover sucks at lying

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    Didn't food poisoning happen to Kobe in their 02 series vs the Kings? It's a feasible explanation. Kind of hard to buy a mob of delivery guys delivering one pizza and peering into the room though. If true, I'd have the pizza tossed. Why let him eat it if it's that su ious?

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    I think all those games are available on YouTube. Maybe not all in HD though

    What else is on there?
    The games were never broadcast in HD so HD footage from the NBC broadcasts doesn't exists. The true HD images you saw from the do entary were actually shot on high quality film and then digitally transferred to HD. If they wanted to, they could actually make it 4K resolution. But they only had a few cameras and some of the games/practices shot in film (most on floor angles, not normal broadcast angles), as opposed to crappy broadcast video from the era. A lot of the game footage was actually shot on IMAX film for the Jordan to the Max do entary that played in IMAX theaters.

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    Lebron ready to be Michael's sidekick

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    Didn't food poisoning happen to Kobe in their 02 series vs the Kings? It's a feasible explanation. Kind of hard to buy a mob of delivery guys delivering one pizza and peering into the room though. If true, I'd have the pizza tossed. Why let him eat it if it's that su ious?
    Maybe because Jordan is so compe ive he wanted to prove he could still eat that pizza

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    Maybe because Jordan is so compe ive he wanted to prove he could still eat that pizza

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    NBA greats denied a ring thanks to Jordan:

    Barkley
    Ewing
    Stockton
    Malone
    Miller

    Drexler and Hakeem would be on the list but snuck in the back door when Jordan played baseball

    Everybody ate in the Lerbron era. Dirk, Duncan, Manu, TP, Durbeta ( ), Steph, Klay, KG, Allen, Pierce, Kobe, Shaq, Wade, Kawhi
    I still think Hakeem would’ve beat the bulls if they met. Jordan’s bulls gets their matchups against PG driven offences (pretty much every team in that era. They struggle relatively against teams with good offensive centres. Ewing and the Knicks pushed the bulls to a few good series but Ewing isn’t a good enough passer. Smits and the pacers pushed the bulls to the limit but smits isn’t as good as those top tier players. Look at the sonics, even with Payton locking down Jordan they still lost in six and much of that was rodman shutting down kemp. As good as rodman was he will not be able to do that against Hakeem and the rockets will feast inside forcing the bulls to collapse the defense leading to wide open shots for the other guys (rockets game plan). At the other end mad max and Ellie will give Jordan all they’ve got but cassell and smith will abuse the Armstrong’s and Kerr’s

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    I do not disagree with any of y'all on Hakeem's greatness. Guy was an absolute beast. Best footwork downlow I have ever seen next to Mchale. But if all that stuff you say about Barkely/Malone/Stockton, etc is true then why do you suppose Hakeem didn't get to the Finals in any of those other years? How come we never got that dream matchup, pun intended?

    Honestly, I think the Bulls beat Houston in a series. That team was Hakeem and a bunch of shooters. Very similar to the Spurs of 99-02 and we saw how Phil played them in LA. Guarded Tim straight up through 3 quarters so the Spurs shooters had no rhythm...then bring some hard doubles in the 4th from time to time to fluster them. He rolls out a lineup of C-Rodman PF-Kukoc SF- Pippen SG- Jordan PG- Harper. Hakeem gets 40 and his shooters don't get lol. Bulls may have to take them 7 as you are right, those bigger teams seemed to give Chicago problems.
    What shooters did the spurs have? A fossilized Steve smith?

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    What shooters did the spurs have? A fossilized Steve smith?
    Mario Elie, Jaren Jackson, Terry Porter, Steve Kerr, Danny Ferry.

    Before TP and Manu, it was a slow methodical game. Dump into into Tim or David(usually on high post) and wait for the double so you can shoot a jumper.

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    By the way I feel The Last Dance didn't have a lot of new footage

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    By the way I feel The Last Dance didn't have a lot of new footage
    True, but the HD footage from a previous era really broght it to life. No VHS crap that you can barely see.

    And I learned some things I did not know. Steve Kerr's dad, Gus the security guy, details on Rodman's getaway, burning of your thoughts on the team and Jordan getting all sentimental and poetic. Scott Burrell being a human Pinata. And Pippen choosing to remain y surprised me.

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    True, but the HD footage from a previous era really broght it to life. No VHS crap that you can barely see.

    And I learned some things I did not know. Steve Kerr's dad, Gus the security guy, details on Rodman's getaway, burning of your thoughts on the team and Jordan getting all sentimental and poetic. Scott Burrell being a human Pinata. And Pippen choosing to remain y surprised me.
    true the quality is much better

    I knew about Kerr's dad and Rodman's escapades

    But I didn't know about Jordan actually going to knock on Rodman's door in that Las Vegas hotel , holy

    By the way forthose who say they weren't hugging or shaking hands after games back in the days, we saw plenty of that with Bird, Miller and Jordan in the arena hallways
    Also Jordan was playing golf with Ainge or Barkley in the middlle of their playoff series
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