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    tom brady literally isnt the best ever at anything but hes clearly the goat QB

    joe montana isnt the best ever at anything and he previously was the goat QB

    by this criteria, then dennis rodman and steph > lebron, kobe, timmy, shaq, amongst others



    more like his severe insecurities, which is even more evident now that basically everyone who either played in those eras, or played on his teams are talking about how BS the do entary actually was
    So what is LeBron the GOAT at? Certainly not winning like Brady

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    Pippen's refusal to reenter only looks bad 25 years later because of Pippen's confusing response

    To me it illustrated the Bulls coping without their shot maker. It also illustrated how the once passive Pippen was now hungry for the moment. And ofcourse Kukoc's development

    If Scottie had just stated he felt disrespected at the time because he wanted to lead the Bulls to glory. But saying he would do it all over again showed lack of development.

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    tom brady literally isnt the best ever at anything but hes clearly the goat QB

    joe montana isnt the best ever at anything and he previously was the goat QB

    by this criteria, then dennis rodman and steph > lebron, kobe, timmy, shaq, amongst others



    more like his severe insecurities, which is even more evident now that basically everyone who either played in those eras, or played on his teams are talking about how BS the do entary actually was
    Montana and Brady are by far the most clutch.

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    Montana and Brady are by far the most clutch.
    Which LeBron fails at yet again

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    YES! Unfortunately I have to record

    Aka Bulls vs the Utah A&M community college astrology club

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    Pippen's refusal to reenter only looks bad 25 years later because of Pippen's confusing response

    To me it illustrated the Bulls coping without their shot maker. It also illustrated how the once passive Pippen was now hungry for the moment. And ofcourse Kukoc's development

    If Scottie had just stated he felt disrespected at the time because he wanted to lead the Bulls to glory. But saying he would do it all over again showed lack of development.
    I agree
    I was surprised by his answer tbh

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    Montana and Brady are by far the most clutch.
    I would take Marino over all of them. Never really had a good defense or reliable running game. Always expected to turn water into wine. Kept a bad team compe ive.

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    Anyone watching Hornacek burying pullup 3's? That's soooo today's NBA. He couldn't make it today right?

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    So what is LeBron the GOAT at? Certainly not winning like Brady
    offensive creation

    help defense

    all-around game

    you could easily argue no one is better at any of those than him

    oh and since we want to talk intangibles, leading mediocre teams far beyond whats expected of them

    Montana and Brady are by far the most clutch.
    skills were originally mentioned, not intangibles

    Which LeBron fails at yet again
    literally the biggest load of crap

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    I would take Marino over all of them. Never really had a good defense or reliable running game. Always expected to turn water into wine. Kept a bad team compe ive.
    Yes but he really laid an egg in 2nd Half of most of the biggest games of his career. I think his stubbornness and too self-confident got the better of him.

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    Anyone watching Hornacek burying pullup 3's? That's soooo today's NBA. He couldn't make it today right?
    Yeah thought the same Funny how he's one of bronsexuals poster boys when theyre trying to discredit the 90s tbh

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    Bron is a GOAT at losing with home court advantage

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    Anyone watching Hornacek burying pullup 3's? That's soooo today's NBA. He couldn't make it today right?
    He can shoot but that frane isn’t enough son
    Terry Rozier would kill him with one tap

    Jeff running back on defense looks like a middle aged lesbian from Southern Indiana trying to catch her bus

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    I'm not saying any of them were as good ad Drexler or Mad max. They were scrubs who shot open threes. Some of them, however, helped the Spurs win a le.
    Which goes back to the original point that the bulls wouldn’t be able to handle the rockets.

    Those players that helped the spurs win was when they could still hit a shot (Elie and Jackson) of which were unplayable after handchecking was outlawed. Danny Ferry had one good game the entire 2003 playoffs. Nobody game plans for him. I’d be surprised if he was even mentioned on a scouting report.

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    He can shoot but that frane isn’t enough son
    Terry Rozier would kill him with one tap

    Jeff running back on defense looks like a middle aged lesbian from Southern Indiana trying to catch her bus
    Rozier wouldn't be allowed to touch him. Everything is a foul now. And scrubs like Trae Young can avg 30

    Trip over your own shoe laces now and they have to stop the game and look at the replay from 10 different angles.

    Oh and Plenty of meatheads in the 90s. And they could actually rough you up then...and dorky looking Hornacek still busted their asses if you laid off him.

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    Damn, MJ the GOAT. But that's one petty MOFO if I ever saw one.

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    Also, lol at that bull about food poisoning. All these years they sold us the "flu" and now they chance the story. Hangover theory confirmed, tbh.

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    Also, lol at that bull about food poisoning. All these years they sold us the "flu" and now they chance the story. Hangover theory confirmed, tbh.
    It was food poisoning. I don’t know why it didn’t get brought up in the main stream media back then, but I just re-watched the 1997 finals game 6. Ahmad Rashad joked with his initial report on the status of Michael Jordan that he was feeling better, but should eat a slice of bad pizza, try to play sick. Jordan said “Bad Idea” So that food poisoning story is true. Jordan obviously had a gambling problem, but he’s not going out and getting completely ing wasted before an NBA finals game. That’s not happening.

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    It was food poisoning. I don’t know why it didn’t get brought up in the main stream media back then, but I just re-watched the 1997 finals game 6. Ahmad Rashad joked with his initial report on the status of Michael Jordan that he was feeling better, but should eat a slice of bad pizza, try to play sick. Jordan said “Bad Idea” So that food poisoning story is true. Jordan obviously had a gambling problem, but he’s not going out and getting completely ing wasted before an NBA finals game. That’s not happening.
    i dont think he got wasted either, but its really crappy of them to try to hint that the pizza was purposely tainted by utah guys, and to put together that ridiculous story of 5 guys delivering a pizza and acting shady

    if something shady was being done, no re on earth would send 5 delivery guys

    even if ANY of it were true, then its their own fault for identifying the fact that it was a pizza for michael jordan

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    I remember the food poisoning story line at the time. I think the NBA went with "flu" because players being poisoned is a poor reflection on their sport/fans. Did anyone buy an athlete in top physical shape catching the flu in the middle of the summer? I considered it could have been some sort of allergic reaction.

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    It was food poisoning. I don’t know why it didn’t get brought up in the main stream media back then, but I just re-watched the 1997 finals game 6. Ahmad Rashad joked with his initial report on the status of Michael Jordan that he was feeling better, but should eat a slice of bad pizza, try to play sick. Jordan said “Bad Idea” So that food poisoning story is true. Jordan obviously had a gambling problem, but he’s not going out and getting completely ing wasted before an NBA finals game. That’s not happening.
    Not on purpose, but what if he didn't think he was getting wasted and had just one too many, while playing poker, without realizing? Yeah, it sounds crazy and unprofessional, but I also never thought that Jordan would wake up and drink a couple of beers and smoke a cigar the morning of the day of game 1 of the finals, and that's apparently exactly what happened.

    Also, food poisoning doesn't go away after 1 day. After that Utah game, Jordan was supposedly all fine and dandy to go to practice the next day to prepare for game 6.

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    Also, lol at that bull about food poisoning. All these years they sold us the "flu" and now they chance the story. Hangover theory confirmed, tbh.
    It was defo hangover
    Grover can’t lie to save his life

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    Hangover from partying in Utah? Where exactly

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    Hangover from partying in Utah? Where exactly
    You know he can take a private plane and party elsewhere

    Or have a private party on his hotel room

    I mean he did drink 2 beers in the morning on game days

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    The Jordan-Lebron is especially dumb since you don't have to reach as high as Lebron to make the comparison there are many others in between that would have had similar or equivalent success to Jordan with the same cir stance. He did all his winning at a time where he didn't have to compete against many players of note on the perimeter on either side of the ball, and when he actually did, he had Scottie to defend for him.

    He didn't win a single thing when other great teams were around. It wasn't until Bird was washed, Magic was at the end of his run and the Pistons were old. He couldn't even reach the playoffs in the worst East in NBA history when the league received an influx of perimeter talent.

    Definitely win 6 rings with the same cir stances: Durant, Kobe, Wade, Bird, Kawhi

    Between 3-6: Dr. J, Dominique Wilkins, Paul Pierce, Jimmy Butler, McGrady, Paul George, Vince Carter, Clyde Drexler, Scottie Pippen

    At least a couple: Reggie Miller, Ray Allen, Iverson, Ginobili, Grant Hill, Bernard King

    I'm probably forgetting a bunch, as well.
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